Anybody have some mileage on the PR 3's yet?
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JamesK
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I've got about 1,500 miles on the PR3 front. Can't say anything about their claims to 30% longer life yet. As you know the PR3 has the new fine slits running horizontally across the tire. I've not had a chance to test them in any kind of serious rain yet so can't speak for how much better the handling is in the wet. The one thing that was a bit annoying for the first 500-1,000 miles is the "play" in the tire when leaned over going over any kind of bumps in the road. It's not like the tire is letting go or slipping but certainly noticeable, you can almost feel the "give" while the micro slits compress. It seems to be becoming less noticeable with some mileage on the tire. So far I would say that if the PR3 can deliver longer life I would buy them (have not tested the rear yet) again. I generally only get around 4-4.5k miles out of the front PR2 since there are plenty of nice mountain twisty roads up this way.
FJRScrewball
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I've got 3500 miles on the front and it shows hardly any wear. Rear has about 2000 miles and again very little wear.
Note that I live in Florida where there aren't any mountain twisties.
Haven't really tried them in a hard rain yet. In light rain showers they seem to do well.
Note that I live in Florida where there aren't any mountain twisties.
Haven't really tried them in a hard rain yet. In light rain showers they seem to do well.
Forum member Brodie shows us the wear patterns in his PR3's (after only 1500 miles!) in post # 2003 in the infamous Darkside thread (also in NEPRT, FWIW).
Based on those pictures alone, I am stocking up on PR2's before they are discontinued.
Based on those pictures alone, I am stocking up on PR2's before they are discontinued.
lnewlf
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Kind of like when Avon "improved" the 45-46 Azaros by going to the new Storms ? Mileage went to hell...
Geezer
Parsimonious Curmudgeon
I am very happy with the PR2 and I have not tried a PR3 yet, but I am not going to write the PR3 off yet. No offense to the darksiders, but I'm going to wait and see how that PR3 front works out when it's used with a PR3 rear, or at least a motorcycle rear tire.
03HiYoSilver
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Fred,
I have a Rear PR3 waiting to be put on, but the Tread Pattern is NOTHING similar to the Pictures in #2003. So I am at a loss at which tire is in the picture.
Here is a Picture of a Michelin PR3:
But this one has no miles yet so I can't comment, but it feels very much like the PR2.
phroenips
Pronounced "Free-nips"...it's just a
What you got there is a rear tire, Brodie was taking pictures of the PR3 front.Fred,
I have a Rear PR3 waiting to be put on, but the Tread Pattern is NOTHING similar to the Pictures in #2003. So I am at a loss at which tire is in the picture.
Here is a Picture of a Michelin PR3:
But this one has no miles yet so I can't comment, but it feels very much like the PR2.
Zackly!
Brodie's rear tire look a lot more like a car tire. Dark side thread... get it?
PS - Good point, Geezer, about Brodie's tire wear might be due to use on a darkside bike. Still, I have reservations that all that sipping is necessary.
Brodie's rear tire look a lot more like a car tire. Dark side thread... get it?
PS - Good point, Geezer, about Brodie's tire wear might be due to use on a darkside bike. Still, I have reservations that all that sipping is necessary.
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03HiYoSilver
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Oooops,
I guess the PR3 Front does look quite differently from the Rear:
https://www.compacc.com/p/Michelin-Pilot-Road-3-Dual-Compound-Tires-Z-Rated-Front
Sorry about that! Makes me happy to have a New PR2 Front ready until we know the full history of the 3's.
I guess the PR3 Front does look quite differently from the Rear:
https://www.compacc.com/p/Michelin-Pilot-Road-3-Dual-Compound-Tires-Z-Rated-Front
Sorry about that! Makes me happy to have a New PR2 Front ready until we know the full history of the 3's.
08FJR4ME
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I think Fred has the right idea. I just put a set in the basement for when I finally wear out the ones on the bike now. 14K front 12 K rear and still looks like a have 2K left at least. I do live in the flat lands of Taxachusetts. I allways say if something works DFWI. (Don't fool with it) :lol:
Dave
Crap! Thanks Fred for linking Brodies post on these things. Reminds me of when PR3's first came out on a post on this forum and I asked a similar question to the Avon post here by Inewlf, about improvement. Mine related do the Dunlop D205, that Dunlop improved with the D207 and in my opinion totaly ruined what was great about the D205. Looks like Michelin is doing the same. 
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Yeah, no kidding. I have a Dunlop D205 on the front of my VFR and I can not wear the thing out. The D205 rear went away and I put a sporty Pirelli on the back and also bought a sticky companion for the front for when that Dunflop is Dun. Still ain't dun and I'm looking for another rear. I'm tempted to go with PR2's on the VFR too. I'd probably get 25k miles on that li'l girl.
exskibum
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I like the PR2s, and when that thread about PR3s being introduced appeared here, with pics of that siping, susceptibility to scalloping on the front was the first thing I wondered about. It just LOOKS like the kind of pattern that I've seen cup like a mofo before. So far, I'm still waiting to see completed wear results. For now, I've got one more pair of PR2s in the garage that will probably have to go on mid summer. Thinking I'll just go ahead and buy a couple more pair of PR2s when I put those on.
Interesting about that front tire wear on the 3's,, I currently have a little over 6K on my Angel ST's and have begun to notice the cupping on the front.. I like the tire but feel I should be getting more mileage then that. Tire pressure is checked before every ride and unfortunately where I live in NJ it's all interstate to get to any good twisties. I haven;t tried the PR2's yet so I might hunt them down for now.
I loved the D205's for longevity. I used them on Beemer K-bike, usually going thru two fronts to one rear. I one time got well over 16K our of the rear, then glass detroyed it, I bearly limped into my garage.
I guess I'll be looking for some more PR2's. My current PR2's have 10K on them and they look pretty darn good. Getting a minor flat spot in the middle rear due to me not being in the twisties enough this year.
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phroenips
Pronounced "Free-nips"...it's just a
There's no need to panic quite yet. I picked up a 2011 Michelin motorcycle tire brochure from my dealer, and it still has both the PR2 and PR3 listed. 2012 might be a different story.
I would expect the Angels to last in the neighborhood of ~ 8k miles front and 6k miles rear, which is about how long 3 different sets of the Diablo Stradas lasted for me.
Cupping or scalloping of the tread is to be expected on any tire. The PR2 is no exception. It occurs because the tread blocks flex and one edge wears faster than the other. It should develop gradually (not in 1500 miles!) and be most noticeable towards the middle of the tire's life. As the tire tread blocks continue to wear the scalloping should lessen as the smaller depth tread blocks twist less and wear more evenly. You'll notice it on the front as a buzzing noise or vibration when turned in.
But scalloping alone is no reason to replace a tire, IMO. That said, I don't want a tire that buzzes from the first few hundred miles.
JamesW
JamesW
Got a couple of hundred miles on my 3"s. Tire guy stated not to be lazy about maintaining tire pressure, he thinks from the tread pattern scalloping or feathering may come up with low tire pressures. Ridewise they feel great but so do most new tires initially.
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