quick help needed. Mounting new tire.

[1catquak]

Just got the old tire off and ready to put on new PR2.

There is no colored dot or any other indicator on the tire to indicate where the heavy spot is.

Do I just mount it up any 'ol way or am I missing something?

The last tire was a Metzler Z6 and I needed no added weights to get a good balance. It had a red dot on the bead that I lined up with the valve.

 

[Niehart]

PR2's don't have heavy spots or sides. Balance your rim and them put on the PR2's. On my 3rd set & have not had to change weights since balancing the rim.

 

[1catquak]

PR2's don't have heavy spots or sides. Balance your rim and them put on the PR2's. On my 3rd set & have not had to change weights since balancing the rim.

thanks.

Time for me to get back to work

 

[Brodie]

Remove the old weights from the wheel.

Find the heavy spot on the rim without the tyre mounted.

Put a permanent mark on the center rib at the heavy spot.

Then mount the tyre and air it up.

Find the light spot on the mounted assembly.

Deflate and break the bead, rotate the tyre on the rim so the heavy spot on the rim lines up with the light spot on the assembly.

Air up the tire and balance it. It shouldn't take much weight this way.

Hope it helps.

Brodie

 

[fjrrider]

I have had very good success with "Ride On" a product added to prevent deflation due to puncture. This product also does a very good job in keeping tire balanced. In fact I dont balance at all, just add the Ride On.

 

[Patriot]

I have had very good success with "Ride On" a product added to prevent deflation due to puncture. This product also does a very good job in keeping tire balanced. In fact I dont balance at all, just add the Ride On.

+1

 

[RickyRey]

Just got the old tire off and ready to put on new PR2.There is no colored dot or any other indicator on the tire to indicate where the heavy spot is.

Do I just mount it up any 'ol way or am I missing something?

The last tire was a Metzler Z6 and I needed no added weights to get a good balance. It had a red dot on the bead that I lined up with the valve.

Was just looking up the same issue mounting two new P2s.. Additional question that may seem stupid but hang in here with me... On the rear tire, there is the word 'Rear' with the directional arrow. The shop that mounted the tire on the wheel with with the arrow pointing forward (in the direction of the forward roll). Is this correct? Or should the arrow be pointing the other direction or towards the rear of the bike ?

Thanks

RR

 

[johnny80s]

Just got the old tire off and ready to put on new PR2.There is no colored dot or any other indicator on the tire to indicate where the heavy spot is.

Do I just mount it up any 'ol way or am I missing something?

The last tire was a Metzler Z6 and I needed no added weights to get a good balance. It had a red dot on the bead that I lined up with the valve.

Was just looking up the same issue mounting two new P2s.. Additional question that may seem stupid but hang in here with me... On the rear tire, there is the word 'Rear' with the directional arrow. The shop that mounted the tire on the wheel with with the arrow pointing forward (in the direction of the forward roll). Is this correct? Or should the arrow be pointing the other direction or towards the rear of the bike ?

Thanks

RR

Arrow points in the direction of the roll.

 

[RickyRey]

Just got the old tire off and ready to put on new PR2.There is no colored dot or any other indicator on the tire to indicate where the heavy spot is.

Do I just mount it up any 'ol way or am I missing something?

The last tire was a Metzler Z6 and I needed no added weights to get a good balance. It had a red dot on the bead that I lined up with the valve.

Was just looking up the same issue mounting two new P2s.. Additional question that may seem stupid but hang in here with me... On the rear tire, there is the word 'Rear' with the directional arrow. The shop that mounted the tire on the wheel with with the arrow pointing forward (in the direction of the forward roll). Is this correct? Or should the arrow be pointing the other direction or towards the rear of the bike ?

Thanks

RR

LOL...Thanks . I figured it did but thought Id check. Read a few more thread and then looked at the front tire too. Marked for front and rear and for roll direction.

RR

Arrow points in the direction of the roll.

 

[rmcobb]

I have had very good success with "Ride On" a product added to prevent deflation due to puncture. This product also does a very good job in keeping tire balanced. In fact I dont balance at all, just add the Ride On.

+1

So....I mount my own tires, and have been looking at Dyna Beads, but not heard of Ride On yet. It looks pretty simple. Do you balance the wheel (without a tire mounted) first? or do you not even bother with that?

 

[fjrrider]

I have had very good success with "Ride On" a product added to prevent deflation due to puncture. This product also does a very good job in keeping tire balanced. In fact I dont balance at all, just add the Ride On.

+1

So....I mount my own tires, and have been looking at Dyna Beads, but not heard of Ride On yet. It looks pretty simple. Do you balance the wheel (without a tire mounted) first? or do you not even bother with that?

The way I do it, (I mount my own tires as well) after I get the first side of the tire on the wheel, I pour in the "Ride On" then mount the other side. Air up tire and replace wheel back on the bike, ride it for a couple of miles to evenly distribute product, and thats it! The "Ride On" balances much the same way "Dyna Beads" does, you also get the added protection from punctures.

 

[Joe2Lmaker]

Remove the old weights from the wheel.
Find the heavy spot on the rim without the tyre mounted.

Put a permanent mark on the center rib at the heavy spot.

Add weights to balance rim using minimum amount of adhesive.

Then mount the tyre and air it up.

Find the light spot on the mounted assembly.

Deflate and break the bead, remove temporary rim balancing weights from rim, rotate the tyre on the rim so the heavy spot on the rim lines up with the light spot on the assembly.

Air up the tire and balance it. It shouldn't take much weight this way.

Hope it helps.

Brodie

To find the the true light spot on the tire doesn't the rim need to neutral?

 

[Grumpy]

Remove the old weights from the wheel.
Find the heavy spot on the rim without the tyre mounted.

Put a permanent mark on the center rib at the heavy spot.

Add weights to balance rim using minimum amount of adhesive.

Then mount the tyre and air it up.

Find the light spot on the mounted assembly.

Deflate and break the bead, remove temporary rim balancing weights from rim, rotate the tyre on the rim so the heavy spot on the rim lines up with the light spot on the assembly.

Air up the tire and balance it. It shouldn't take much weight this way.

Yep, that's what he said.

Hope it helps.

Brodie

To find the the true light spot on the tire doesn't the rim need to neutral?

 

[lonerider]

The way I do it, (I mount my own tires as well) after I get the first side of the tire on the wheel, I pour in the "Ride On" then mount the other side. Air up tire and replace wheel back on the bike, ride it for a couple of miles to evenly distribute product, and thats it! The "Ride On" balances much the same way "Dyna Beads" does, you also get the added protection from punctures.

Call me anal; I mount & balance mine the usual way, then add Ride-On. It's worked great so far; no balance problems up to 120 mph.

 

[Joe2Lmaker]

Remove the old weights from the wheel.
Find the heavy spot on the rim without the tyre mounted.

Put a permanent mark on the center rib at the heavy spot.

Add weights to balance rim using minimum amount of adhesive.

Then mount the tyre and air it up.

Find the light spot on the mounted assembly.

Deflate and break the bead, remove temporary rim balancing weights from rim, rotate the tyre on the rim so the heavy spot on the rim lines up with the light spot on the assembly.

Air up the tire and balance it. It shouldn't take much weight this way.

Yep, that's what he said.

Hope it helps.

Brodie

To find the the true light spot on the tire doesn't the rim need to neutral?

 

[Joe2Lmaker]

Brodie,

Post #12 was a serious question.

Are those extra steps with the temporary weights necessary when there is no mark on the tire?

Are you ignoring me because of the way I spell tire?

The post right above this one was to tease Grumpy.

Are there that many people who have me on their ignored users list? This is like the reaction palerider's posts get.

 

[Brodie]

Brodie,Post #12 was a serious question.

Are those extra steps with the temporary weights necessary when there is no mark on the tire?

I'm sorry Joe, I got waylaid this evening and didn't post earlier.

I suppose it all gets back to how ANAL the guy doing the tyre change is. I've only done about 9 or 10 of these since getting my NoMar set up. I think my method works pretty well. In fact I found that the balance rod and cones provided by NoMar isn't perfect. I can shift the balance point around by rotating the shaft assembly a quarter turn in the wheel bearings. Perhaps the Mark Parns balancer is more repeatable.

I don't bother trying to balance the wheel. If I know where the heavy spot is I can go from there. My goal is to cancel out as best as possible the imbalance in the mounted tyre/wheel assembly. I figure the less weight the better. It's never going to be perfect, but this method gets me pretty close - I think close enough. I haven't had an imbalance problem since I started mounting and balancing my own.

I imagine if I took the time to balance the wheel, then found the exact heavy spot on the tyre, it wouldn't be that far off from where my set up places it. Sometimes I luck out, sometimes I have to put some weight on the wheel. How close do you really need it for the speeds we travel?

There's more than one way to skin a gopher.

:derisive:

Brodie

 

[Joe2Lmaker]

"close enough" I need to repeat that a few times.

I've spent more than a few minutes thinking about this. My last front tire had no mark on it.

I dreamed up a few contraptions (but never made any) so I could mark a tire next time.

"close enough" "its never going to be perfect"