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clsonfjr

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I'm planning on riding from Calgary to the CFR Rally, then down to EOM for the following weekend, and taking the following week to get back to Calgary. For the trip out, Mapquest and Google Maps both suggest I enter the US around Estevan Sask. and re-enter Canada at Sault Ste. Marie. I'd like to return on a parallel route sort of 1 state further south. Most of this mileage will be first-time-ever, and I'd like to make the most of it. If anybody has suggestions for routes to take/avoid I'd love to hear them. :rolleyes:

Thanks,

Chris

keep in mind that I grew up in rural Alberta, population density less than 10 people per square mile; I like quiet roads and small towns.

For those of you that have asked me to make a financial/time commitment to back up these plans, I'm still fighting with my current employer to NOT plan the implementation date of the project I'm leading for the first week in September - but I'm the only one that thinks it's a bad idea. :angry:

 
Hi Chris, Mark... WheatonFJR is also planning to head down from CFO. Maybe someone to ride with?

Keep in mind that there is a dinner money deadline if you are indeed attending the meet.

I'd also appreciate a registration if at some point you decide to come. Not only do I need to know for banquet room size, there is a brave soul that is making name tags that can be worn to the social events. He'd like to know your name.

Heidi

 
Hi Chris, Mark... WheatonFJR is also planning to head down from CFO. Maybe someone to ride with?<snip>
Thanks Heidi...I will get to know Chris at CFR and he can see if he wants to ride down with me... :)

Heading back to Calgary...one suggestion would be to take the southern route

maybe SE Ohio twisties then ride throughhilly KY or along the Ohio River to Southeast MO and Northern Arkansas twisties in the Ozarks into Northeast Oklahoma. Then maybe up through the 2 laner prairies to back home or out to the Rockies and up.

Stay away from northern Ohio, Indiana or Illinois...flat as can be.

That's a rough backbone of a trip...if you choose roads in those areas, let me know - I have a gazetteer map or two.

 
Wheaton is right. Stay along the Ohio River (in OH or KY, both are good) west as far as you can go into Missouri. Then north up the Mississipi river valley into Minnesota and go NW BEFORE Minneapolis. Then cross over or stay into North Dakota and Montana. DO NOT CROSS THE BORDER AT SWEETGRASS, MONTANA!!!!! Especially coming INTO the US. This is notoriously the worst crossing in the country. YOU WILL BE HASTLED!!!!

Let me warn you that to cross over at S. St. Marie, you first have to travel about 420 miles from the last hill in OH to northern MI. Boring as brown dirt!!!

Plus, you will need to cross the Mackinaw Island bridge on I-75. This is a freaky scary experience, especially if the right lane (asphaut) is closed. I just did this in June...of course high winds, and of course had to ride on the metal girders. I've been riding 25 years and offroad as well, so let's just say I'm no stranger to adventure! That was not fun at all. The 350+ miles in Michigan is pretty (trees/lakes), but a real snooze.

Yep, stay the heck out of MI, North Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois. Nutin' to see except amber waves of grain.

 
Thanks for the suggestions guys. :) I had made some assumptions about where to ride, and apparently I was dead wrong. :blink: It's amazing what asking for help can do for you.

I'm leaning towards riding east with FastJoyRide - not sure what route he's planning, but he's done it many times so I trust he knows the way.

Chris

 
Plus, you will need to cross the Mackinaw Island bridge on I-75. This is a freaky scary experience, especially if the right lane (asphaut) is closed. I just did this in June...of course high winds, and of course had to ride on the metal girders. I've been riding 25 years and offroad as well, so let's just say I'm no stranger to adventure! That was not fun at all. The 350+ miles in Michigan is pretty (trees/lakes), but a real snooze.
Everyone should go across that bridge at least once in their life time. I been across three times on the FJR , twice in one day and two up. They always seem to be working on the bridge so the catwalk type material is what you generally have to ride on.

The road along the Lake Huron side in Michigan is nice. (M25 in the lower half and M23 in the upper half.) But then you have to figure a way around Detroit (zoo) and the Ohio valley. Read flat, traffic and boring.

I have ridden along the Ohio River and that is nice. I would have to pick the Ohio River.

 
Thanks for the suggestions guys. :) I had made some assumptions about where to ride, and apparently I was dead wrong. :blink: It's amazing what asking for help can do for you.
I'm leaning towards riding east with FastJoyRide - not sure what route he's planning, but he's done it many times so I trust he knows the way.

Chris
We may have Bearly joining us too - I have lots of guest beds here! (and some pretty good single malt, although I have to save some in case Orangevale and JoyFulGirl come to visit...)

I can send you the route in MS Streets and Trips if you have it Chris (and PM me your e-mail). It's pretty direct but honestly it's a lot of droning on Highway 2, then some pretty riding (leafy green tunnels, lake views etc.) across the UP of Michigan. The ON part is mostly rolling country, 2 lane roads, nothing too special. Will be fun to make the first CFR truly national, although I had an e-mail from Gypsy this AM in Halifax saying that he's now a doubtful as the builder has again changed the possession date on their new home. :angry:

 
Everyone should go across that bridge at least once in their life time.
Cool, my quota has been met! So does that mean I don't have to cross it ever again?? :rolleyes:

 
Sure ya have to do it again, this time when it's windy enough they don't let the truckers across.

Thats one hairy ride belive me!

I've dragged probably 30 double wides across that bugger and that wasn't nearly as as hair raising :eek:

:jester:

 
I crossed it in 1979 one month after I got my new XS 11 SPECIAL...of course they were doing construction on the paved lane so I got to do grating the five miles or so across. Did I mention I is 'scared a heights :dribble: :dribble:

Fortunately I beat a big dark storm front to the north end of the bridge by 10 minutes. :blink:

It thunder stormed the whole U.P. all the way west to Escanaba, MI. Of course I was real smart back then -as I am now- I kept riding in the lightning 'cuz you know I have that insulating rubber on my tires. Guess I used one or two of my nine lives on that trip...didn't get run over by those lumber trucks bearing down on me in the driving rain either.

660 miles that day...Muskegon, MI to Wausau, WI. Nice relaxing little ride. :)

 
660 miles that day...Muskegon, MI to Wausau, WI. Nice relaxing little ride. :)
Tis about the same distance I did the bridge day as well. Massey, ON to Columbus, OH. Had a flat coming over the Int'l bridge, but luckily at the end of it, and was able to get a tow to a dealer (thank you AAA+ with RV coverage, and not a mile too soon as it's not honored in CA.

You know, come to think about, maybe my Mackinaw bridge experience was tainted. I had to have a 160 tire Avon spooned on since there were no correct fits anywhere within 100 miles of Sault Ste. Marie. So I crossed the big bridge at Mackinaw coming south with a 160 with full touring rig. No matter, even the toll booth lady carried on about being careful, high winds today. I was like yada yada, I can ride, been over bridges...until I realized...FUUUUUCCCKKKK!!!!! It's windy and there is no traction!!!! And I can see the water 200 feet below the metal grid!!!

Here's some cool facts about the bridge from WIKI:

The Mackinac Bridge is the longest two tower suspension bridge between anchorages (8,614 feet) (2,626 m) in the Western Hemisphere. Much longer anchorage-to-anchorage spans have been built in the Eastern Hemisphere, including the Akashi-Kaikyo Bridge in Japan (12,826 feet) (3,909 m). However, because of the long leadups to the anchorages on the Mackinac, from waterline to waterline it is much longer than the Akashi-Kaikyo (5 mile compared to 2.4 mile).

The length of the bridge's main span is 3,800 feet (1,158 m), which makes it the third-longest suspension span in the United States and tenth largest worldwide.

Length from cable bent pier to cable bent pier: 7,400 feet (2,256 m).

Total width of the roadway: 54 feet (16.5 m)

Two outside lanes: 12 feet (3.7 m) wide each

Two inside lanes: 11 feet (3.4 m) wide each

Center mall: 2 feet (0.61 m)

Catwalk, curb and rail width: 3 feet (0.91 m) on each side

Width of stiffening truss in the suspended span: 68 feet (20.7 m), making it wider than the roadway it supports.

Height of the roadway at mid-span: approximately 200 feet (61 m) above water level.

Vertical clearance at normal temperature:

155 feet (47 m) at the center of the main suspension span.

135 feet (41 m) at the boundaries of the 3,000 feet (914 m) wide navigation channel.

Construction cost: $99.8 million (1957 USD)

Height of towers above water: 552 feet (168 m)

Max. depth of towers below water: 210 feet (64 m)

Total length of wire in main cables: 42,000 miles (68,000 km).

Total vehicle crossings, 2005: 4,236,491 (average 11,608 per day)

Speed limit: 45 mph (72 km/h) for passenger cars, 20 mph (32 km/h) for heavy trucks. Heavy trucks are also required to leave 500 feet (152 m) spacing ahead.

Two vehicles have fallen off the bridge.

Twenty-four year old Leslie Anne Plouhar died in 1989 when her 1987 Yugo plunged over the 36 inch high railing. A combination of high winds and excessive speeding was blamed.

In March 1997, a 1996 Ford Bronco went over the edge. It was later determined to be a suicide by driver Richard Alan Daraban.[4]

So CLSONFJR, have we convinced you to go across it or find another way around :)

 
It sounds like one of those things a guy just has to do, so you can repeatedly ask your grandkids "Did I ever tell you about how I became the first person to ever drive a motorcycle off the side of the Mackinaw bridge?" :D

 
Just remembered:

I live and ride in southern Alberta, where chinook winds frequently blow semi's off the highway. And I've crossed both the Kelown floating bridge and Edmonton's low-level bridge, both of which have steel grating decks. This should be a piece of cake! :dribble:

 
Here is a few pictures I took of the bridge as we headed for the island last year.

From the Mackinaw City side
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The middle section

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The St Ignace side

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The white in the picture on the bridge is the workers painting the bridge

 
Isn't this the bridge that the guy from the Discovery Channel's "Dirty Jobs" did a segment on? He talks about the fact that it's designed to sway about a yard in each direction. Oh yeah, sounds like real fun.

 
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