Running a AE up a ramp

[HotRodZilla]

That first vid was about the lamest effort at vid that I've ever seen. Forget the load fail, the vid fail is epic. Show the same thing over and over at different speeds, one shot, the other shot, both shots, fast, slow, and in between. And WTF is it with camera people that drop cameras when the good **** happens??!?!? I hate that!!!!

But yeah, you could see a long ways off that it wasn't gonna clear the ramp/gate angle.... :huh:

+ 2 million...That video sucked donkey balls. Same **** over and over, and right when the food **** happens, they BOTH film the ground? They could have at least shown the carnage afterwards.

Fukin losers!

 

[Bustanut joker]

That first vid was about the lamest effort at vid that I've ever seen. Forget the load fail, the vid fail is epic. Show the same thing over and over at different speeds, one shot, the other shot, both shots, fast, slow, and in between. And WTF is it with camera people that drop cameras when the good **** happens??!?!? I hate that!!!!

:huh:

+ 2 million...Beemerdons sucks donkey balls. Same **** over and over. They could have at least shown the money shot...

Fukin losers!

You have some serious issues my friend.. :dribble:

 

[beemerdons]

That first vid was about the lamest effort at vid that I've ever seen. Forget the load fail, the vid fail is epic. Show the same thing over and over at different speeds, one shot, the other shot, both shots, fast, slow, and in between. And WTF is it with camera people that drop cameras when the good **** happens??!?!? I hate that!!!!

:huh:

+ 2 million...Beemerdons sucks donkey balls. Same **** over and over. They could have at least shown the money shot...

Fukin losers!

You have some serious issues my friend.. :dribble:

Fuzzy Balls!

 

[flagstaff]

I've had lots of experience loading various bikes into my pickup and have utilized the techniques suggested: curved ramp, ditch when available, reduce slope, and even winched a large bike into a trailer. Never did try the helicopter. It is actually quite easy after a few times, even with a large bike. That being said, based on comments it seems the AE isn't going to work using the walking under power technique, but I still have that small winch that I might try, though it has a wired remote which would need to be lengthened. I guess I'll get the winch off the shelf and try it out with my dirt bike for starters.

Of course a non-AE bike is a simple solution.

Thanks for the input.

 

[Constant Mesh]

The easiest method I've found is to ride the bike to a local lawn mower repair shop and use their loading ramp. The ramp will be wide and sturdy for those larger riding lawn mowers. It'll be a fixed, permanent ramp easy to use and it will be the right height for a standard sized pickup.

 

[BwanaDik]

I don't know if anyone has ever attached an electric winch to the front of the pickup bed (or trailer) and just winch the bike up? Seems easy enough to just run a strap around one side of the front fork down by the axle MAJOR FAIL, stand along side holding the bike and preferably another person control the winch.

Actually, yes. Driving an AE up a ramp is a real no-brainer. It's easy, as mcatrophy said, you can't stall it. If you want to simulate "pulling in the clutch" you simply apply the front brake. But doing that halfway up the ramp will result is a serious YouTube moment.

I posted this elsewhere before. This is one of those electric winches that are driven off the battery. My friend ran the winch while I controlled the bike. The problem here is that the bike is so heavy, it started to bend the reinforced bracket I had mounted on the front of the bed. I ended up "feathering" the clutch all the way up, which is the way I had done it on a number of previous occations without the winch. Also notice that I use the really long ramps to avoid the tight spot at the top.

Initial set up

Up the ramp

Into the truck

Job done

Tied in

Note that the ramps are tied in tightly. A slipping ramp, under any circumstance, will result in a YouTube moment.

Here's another way to do it, simply man up and ride it in

 

[wheatonFJR]

Here's another way to do it, simply man up and ride it in

That's what I had to do...but without all the encouragement/ peanut gallery/youtube videographers (wishing I would dump the bike while part of the way up the ramp). Never done it before, so it was a little intimidating with visions of stalling part way up the ramp and breaking a leg and causing major suckage to the plastic a thousand miles from home. It actually was a piece of cake going up the ramp...as you would suspect.

BDik, great photos showing the proper way to do it..

 

[rbentnail]

https://www.motorcycleramps.com/cruiser_ramp.htm

[sarcasm]

Specifically designed for a cruiser as real bikers never put their bikes in a pickup but it looks like a wheel chock attachment so I'm sure any poser's bike could be used with it.

[/sarcasm]

edit:

https://images.harborfreight.com/manuals/99000-99999/99900.pdf

https://www.cyclematters.com/motorcycle-product-reviews/maintenance-repair/tools-lifts/cruiser-caddie-automatic-ramp-system-truck-or-trailer.cfm

https://www.mountainmaster.net/motorcycleloadingsystem.html

https://www.factoryramps.com/products/motorcycle/frame.html?carrier/rvlift.html

 

[pcarnut]

Guy in the second video also had his wheels of the truck in the gutter to help lower the angle of attack. Now those Goldwing guys just didn't do it right. If they were true Wingers, they would have used reverse and backed it in. Bunch of wimps and then they could have ridden it out. Sheesh.

 

[wfooshee]

But then he wouldn't have known when to duck, and he would have been (slowly) decapitated.

 

[dbx]

I've had lots of experience loading various bikes into my pickup and have utilized the techniques suggested: curved ramp, ditch when available, reduce slope, and even winched a large bike into a trailer. Never did try the helicopter. It is actually quite easy after a few times, even with a large bike. That being said, based on comments it seems the AE isn't going to work using the walking under power technique, but I still have that small winch that I might try, though it has a wired remote which would need to be lengthened. I guess I'll get the winch off the shelf and try it out with my dirt bike for starters.

Of course a non-AE bike is a simple solution.

Thanks for the input.

My advice is to ignore any comments that suggest an AE is more difficult to manage in this situation than a non-AE. It's much easier and more predictable to slip the clutch on the AE than it is on other bikes. If you find that first gear on the AE is too powerful, don't be shy about using another gear. The higher the gear, the more clutch slippage, and it's extremely easy to control with just the throttle, while there's no danger of stalling the engine.

If you think a non-AE is simple to handle in this situation, you'll be amazed at how easy the AE is to handle.

 

[phroenips]

Here's another way to do it, simply man up and ride it in

If you ride it up as fast as BDik did in that video, no risk of stalling...only risk hitting the spotter in the front of the cargo area (which was me...apparently my eyes got REALLY big) :lol:

 

[SlowDave]

I road race motorcycles so lots of loading up of bikes. I saw one guy ride one up a tire-width ramp into the back of a pickup (MUCH more difficult than the U-Haul truck) and stuck the landing. I never had the guts to do that. With a 400 lb road race bike, you can push it up the ramp without even using the engine, just need someone to transfer it over to when you get to the top of the ramp and can't jump onto the tailgate while holding the bike, but not too bad. Still, I always look around for a spot with "vertical advantage," like putting the wheels of my truck in the gutter at the edge of the street and the ramp up in the driveway.

A few weeks ago, I had to load my FJR in the truck for the first time (after owning one for 7 years). We did it the same way, but the hand-off guy also helped push the heft up the bottom part of the ramp before he bailed and got up on the tailgate. Also, loading or unloading, that is a lot of weight up very high when you're standing on the ground next to the bike near the top of the ramp. There is the possibility of a youtube moment, but I avoided it this one time.

 

[dcarver]

That first vid was about the lamest effort at vid that I've ever seen. Forget the load fail, the vid fail is epic. Show the same thing over and over at different speeds, one shot, the other shot, both shots, fast, slow, and in between. And WTF is it with camera people that drop cameras when the good **** happens??!?!? I hate that!!!!

But yeah, you could see a long ways off that it wasn't gonna clear the ramp/gate angle....

+ 2 million...That video sucked donkey balls. Same **** over and over, and right when the food **** happens, they BOTH film the ground? They could have at least shown the carnage afterwards.

Fukin losers!

When the FOOD **** happens?

Come on doode, step away from the plate!

:rofl:

 

[HotRodZilla]

That first vid was about the lamest effort at vid that I've ever seen. Forget the load fail, the vid fail is epic. Show the same thing over and over at different speeds, one shot, the other shot, both shots, fast, slow, and in between. And WTF is it with camera people that drop cameras when the good **** happens??!?!? I hate that!!!!

But yeah, you could see a long ways off that it wasn't gonna clear the ramp/gate angle.... [img=[URL="https://www.fjrforum.com/forum//public/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif%5D"]https://www.fjrforum.com/forum//public/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif][/URL]

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+ 2 million...That video sucked donkey balls. Same **** over and over, and right when the food **** happens, they BOTH film the ground? They could have at least shown the carnage afterwards.

Fukin losers!

When the FOOD **** happens?
Come on doode, step away from the plate!

:rofl:

******* auto correct on my phone anwyays...Just like every time I try to type "Carver" the phone substitutes, "*******.". If I don't catch it, there'll be hurt feelers everywhere.

 

[canucklehead-biker]

When we went to retrieve FJRGuy's wreck, we loaded into the back of my truck using ramps, a manual come-along, some slings (to extend the reach of the come-along), a small amount of brute force and a hefty dose of patience. And it did bottom out on the tailgate. Never tried to load one under power, but I reckon if the ramp was long enough to get the angle down, and wide enough to allow you to walk up beside, that'd be the best way to load.

YMMV, and all that ...

Griff

 

[palerider]

I've read lots of posts about ways riders deal with tight turns on their AEs, but couldn't find anything mentioned about trying to run one up a ramp (or a REALLY steep drive). I ocassionally put my motorcycle in the back of the pickup so I can bring along my mountain bike. My preferred method for loading is to walk the motorcycle up the ramp under power, feathering the clutch. Is this possible with the AE? If not, is the only other option to push it up with people power?

I had a bad problem with this when I hit a sharp piece of shale that sliced my front tire open. I called AAA, and they sent a tilt-bed truck that was so steep and smooth that even with full brakes the AE kept sliding back down when I would stop moving forward. I didn't want to use the winch because I was concerned about bending the forks.

GaryK

 

[deanw]

Everyone talks about finding a ditch- but even using the gutter (back tires in the gutter, front tires out in the street) helps significantly even with a flat driveway.

On flatbed tow trucks, you only need to get far enough onto the bed that the driver can raise the bed again, then roll forward when it's lifted.

On the spectacular crash vid- notice the front tires in the ditch (increasing how steep the ramp is), and two guys holding cameras, nobody ready to spot?

Another way if you have a bike lift- roll it out into the driveway, push the bike on it, raise the lift.

BTW- a LOT of Harley dealers have a dedicated loading lift out back specifically for loading / unloading bikes from pickups.

 

[palerider]

On flatbed tow trucks, you only need to get far enough onto the bed that the driver can raise the bed again, then roll forward when it's lifted.

Tried that. As the bed came off the ground the bike slipped back off the bed onto the ground.