SaddleSore 1000 question

[superfuzz]

I am contemplating attempting my first IBA LD ride. I have been trying to read up on what's required and gather tips from other's experiences. As I contemplated a route, departure time, stops, etc, I realized that most of the ride reports I was seeing involved riding the 1000 miles virtually all in one block. Is there something in the rules or something that people have learned from experience that would say it was prohibited or a bad idea to break it into two 500 mile block with a 4 or 5 hour rest break in the middle?

For example, I figured that I could ride from where I am to a spot about 500 miles away, leaving at about 1:30pm and arriving there at about 9:45pm. Sleep for about 5 hours, depart at about 4 am and arrive back at the start about 12:30 pm. This includes stopping for 15 minute rest/gas break every 2 hours-ish and a few 30 minute meal/gas breaks. Streets and Trips shows it to be 1007+ miles in about 23 hours total.

Does that violate the spirit of the ride or something not to do it all at once? I realize I'm a newb, just trying to get the lay of the land.

 

[user 28803]

You could do they, sure. I'd worry a little about possible delays and cutting the time close on the second leg. On another note, I would add 30 or 40 miles, just to be safe.

Good luck!

 

[gixxerjasen]

Many folks do just that on the 1500 in 36 hour runs. It's rarely done on the 1K runs because, first, it isn't necessary, and second, it's better to have that buffer at the end. When you are at 750 miles you realize you have lots of time and can take it easy and just cruise on in resting where necessary. With your plan though, you'll be rested but could be likely to be rushing at the end. Rushing is where mistakes are made. Not sure I'd want to put pressure on yourself when it's not really necessary.

Besides, yea, it kind of goes against the spirit of sitting down and cranking out 1K miles.

 

[Ignacio]

I would add 30 or 40 miles, just to be safe.

Agree. I would aim for 30 mile buffer.

No reason you can't do it in 2, 3, or whatever installments. It's just that most tend to want to do it all in one block with breaks.

 

[superfuzz]

Okay, thanks for the replies!

 

[Bustanut joker]

I see nothing wrong if everything falls in place.. But I think I'd shoot for 700 do the long nap and finish with the 300. All it takes is a few traffic jams and things go south fast..

Our SSK last summer got in troubles300 miles from completion. The burg known as Toronto at 5:00 is better known as LA East..

1000 miles isn't that hard though.. Proper preparation starting a week or so before makes all the difference. Hydration, not beer, before and during is a huge factor..

 

[alchemy]

As long as you are in under 24hrs- whatever works best for *YOU*. We all have different ways of doing it, personally I would push as far as you are comfortable with then take a short break and continue on. You may find 16hrs later "hey, I only have to go 150 miles" and just push on.

 

[Redfish Hunter]

If you are departing in the afternoon and returning in the morning, I have some advice. Do NOT ride into a rising or setting sun. In other words, when you leave at 1:30 in the afternoon, be headed East. On your return the next morning, be pointed West. Facing the sun is an added fatigue and irritation factor that can be eliminated with a little planning.

Don't stress too much, Gixxerjasen has an excellent Ride Report on this forum about his SS1K called "It's 4am and I have a craving for BBQ" or something very close to that. If you plan properly this should not be that difficult.

Good Luck

 

[gixxerjasen]

Yea, and the rising and setting sun advice is something I prepared for but didn't adhere to. It CAN be done, but dang, if I'd have had another option I'd have gone west on my run.

I like the idea of 700 miles first. You'll likely crank out the 700 and then decide not to stop. Heck, if you have a big burg in the way, stop and sleep/rest through rush hour. That could work.

 

[Bounce]

I'm with those that suggest you not plan a mid-ride break that's so long (and structured).

Plan your ride with a target speed that allows for 15 minute gas stops (times the number of stops you'll need @ 200 miles per tank). Then plan out a 2 hour pad for the unexpected. From there you have the remaining (usable) time within your 24 hours. Take 1000 miles/those hours and you have your target speed. Shoot for that or better AS AN AVERAGE.

Now you have all you need for your plan except your route. As a first attempt plan everything for success... which means interstates with a 70Mph or better posted speed limit.

Ride without plans for stops except for gas. Keep those stops UNDER 15 minutes. You're now ahead of your plan.

Only stop for anything more than gas when you can't safely ride any more. THEN take a 30 minute power nap and you'll be surprised at how restored you are.

Hydration? Anything that doesn't let you sip water all day while the wheels are rolling is not good enough.

Meals? **** meals! It's only 24 hours. Trail mix (without candy), dried fruit, beef jerky, Cliff bars, etc. Look for things that aren't sticky and are low fat/carb.

Plans beyond wheels turning, route, and mandatory stops for gas and receipts, are wasting time that could be put to better use.

 

[Bungie]

Our SSK last summer got in troubles300 miles from completion. The burg known as Toronto at 5:00 is better known as LA East..

1000 miles isn't that hard though.. Proper preparation starting a week or so before makes all the difference. Hydration, not beer, before and during is a huge factor..

I still can't believe you guys did that ride in the heat (it was 100F+). People don't believe that the 401 is THE busiest highway in North America. Hitting it rush hour in anything other than an armed tank is bordering on lunacy. I had to ride it to do my Lee Parks course a few weeks ago. On a Sunday morning I was feet down on and off for a good 30 minutes, and this was to go about 10 miles.

As for Tony. That guy is makes Chuck Norris seem like a limp wristed, mint-munching poodle walker.

 

[NMRoadRunner]

I've done 4 IB 1000's and have averaged 18 to 20 hours each. I could do it faster but why press it up. I don't think I would have time to sleep for 4 hours in that period. I run fast and hard early in the daylight, but slow down a bit and more time during rest/fuel/food breaks. I've done the 4 all in state and very minimal slab time. Slabbing is too easy! Running at night in Newer Mexico comes with great risk of animal impact though. they aren't that hard on you, don't stress out too much, just pick a date and go. B)

 

[Bustanut joker]

104 in North Bay IIRC.. Standing in stopped traffic just north of Toronto suked ballz.. There were several times where it was kickstands down and walk around.

Then the klown in the cage who made the brilliant statement " Hey you guys must be hot, it's 56 degrees on that asphalt".. Duhhhhh, no ***** Sherlock! Our water was about the same temperature.

My feet hurt for days afterwards. :blink:

Yep Tony is a badass when it comes to this, but even that hardnose said later it was getting close to calling it at that point...

 

[mattster31]

The burg known as Toronto at 5:00 is better known as LA East..

10-4.............traffic in that city sucks pretty much all the time. Traffic during daylight.....and endless construction at night. Not to mention an accident. Then you've got every damn rubbernecker stopping for a looksie.....bloody Canadians and their morbid curiosity. That "Timmy's" coffee is turning them all into robots!!!

nope.....not bitter

 

[SkooterG]

I had to ride it to do my Lee Parks course a few weeks ago.

How was the Total Control class?

 

[Bungie]

I had to ride it to do my Lee Parks course a few weeks ago.

How was the Total Control class?

Thread Hijack (Hey, it's what we do)

Very much worth the money and HIGHLY recommended for anybody whose ridden more than a couple of years. It will frustrate noobs and they won't get much from it.

Learned new skills, and reinforced some skills that I've gotten lazy with.

 

[Candyman]

Took 21 hours for me. Rode 1123 miles. I started after spending the day at the track in ohio watching races so I took a stop over at the iron butt hotel when I got tired. I recommend getting up early and getting it done without planning a break, but taking one if needed.