Scala Q2 pairing with Garmin GPS

[jimyman]

Are there any problem pairing Scala Q2 with other Garmin GPS beside the Zumo 550 Don t have much money and would like a cheaper way if I can.

I did do a search ; but stuff changes so fast ; just wanted to get a update.. A few good sales on this time of year.

Thanks for any Advice

Jim

 

[Geezer]

Are there any problem pairing Scala Q2 with other Garmin GPS beside the Zumo 550 Don t have much money and would like a cheaper way if I can. I did do a search ; but stuff changes so fast ; just wanted to get a update.. A few good sales on this time of year.

Thanks for any Advice

Jim

I saw the Gafrmin 550 a couple of places this weekend for $200. You're not going to get a decent waterproof GPS that will plot routes for less than that.

 

[DABRIT]

Jimyman

In my experience there is a problem pairing the scala rider Q2 with any other garmin gps other than the Zumo's, the pairing codes for most GPS's are not 0000 as the scala rider requires.

We have a Nuvi 780 and the pairing codes for that are 1234 so no matter how you try these two pieces are not going to be able to talk to each other. I have not had much experience other than trying the pairing process.

I believe some people are using the FM broadcast facility of some GPS's to work in conjunction with the scala rider Q2, I have tried an got very poor results as this area (Seattle) is just blasted with FM transmissions at virtually every frequency.

I have a couple of ideas that if they work I will post up on the board.

Hope this helps

DB

 

[bellman]

My understanding is the Zumo is the only Garmin that has bluetooth "out" for driving directions. All others only work as a handsfree interface for cell phones.

 

[SCWatts]

JimymanIn my experience there is a problem pairing the scala rider Q2 with any other garmin gps other than the Zumo's, the pairing codes for most GPS's are not 0000 as the scala rider requires.

We have a Nuvi 780 and the pairing codes for that are 1234 so no matter how you try these two pieces are not going to be able to talk to each other. I have not had much experience other than trying the pairing process.

Dabrit's correct. This little issue isn't published on either for either Scala Rider or Garmin. Folks like us just have to buy the gear, spend a frustrating hour or two trying to make it work, then contact both companies' tech support departments. And when we do, we find out it's impossible.

The FM trick will work, but your results may or may not satisfy you. I've taken to sticking the Garmin in my jacket pocket, then just plugging into the Scala Rider. Will then hear very clearly, plus can listen to amazing sounding MP3s if you put them on the Garmin.

 

[Bungie]

My understanding is the Zumo is the only Garmin that has bluetooth "out" for driving directions. All others only work as a handsfree interface for cell phones.

Not true. My 2820 pairs with my Collette headset fine. I don't use the Garmin for phone calls or MP3's (I use my phone - headset for that).

 

[zip]

I saw the Gafrmin 550 a couple of places this weekend for $200. You're not going to get a decent waterproof GPS that will plot routes for less than that.

Sorry, that had to be the Garmin NUVI 550 you're referring to, isn't it? Or did you find the Garmin ZUMO 550 for $200 somewhere? If you found the Zumo 550 at that price, please post a link!

 

[ShawnKing]

If you found the Zumo 550 at that price, please post a link!

No kidding! My eyes got all buggy when I saw that price! Not likely you'll find the Zumo 550 for it though.

 

[Geezer]

I saw the Gafrmin 550 a couple of places this weekend for $200. You're not going to get a decent waterproof GPS that will plot routes for less than that.

Sorry, that had to be the Garmin NUVI 550 you're referring to, isn't it? Or did you find the Garmin ZUMO 550 for $200 somewhere? If you found the Zumo 550 at that price, please post a link!

Oops, you are correct. It is the NUVI 550. :blushing: :dntknw:

 

[jimyman]

Are there any problem pairing Scala Q2 with other Garmin GPS beside the Zumo 550 Don t have much money and would like a cheaper way if I can. I did do a search ; but stuff changes so fast ; just wanted to get a update.. A few good sales on this time of year.

Thanks for any Advice

Jim

Thanks Guys -- that what I thought ; problem with most all except 550 I will just save up money till I can get one.

Again thanks for the help and Merry Christmas to All

Jim

 

[jnor]

Here ya go........

Thank you for contacting the Cardo Systems Support Center regarding our products.

To listen to music through a phone, MP3 player or GPS unit, both Bluetooth devices must have the A2DP Bluetooth profile for stereo audio. Currently none of the Scala-rider products support this profile.

We have not specifically tested all of the GPS systems on the market. However, the Scala Rider line of headsets is compatible with:

1) any GPS system that supports the Headset/Hands-free Bluetooth profile

2) any GPS that accepts (0000) as its passkey

The features and abilities that are able to be performed may vary depending on the make and model of your GPS.

Compatible GPS units with Cardo Headsets:

TOMTOM Rider 1st and 2nd Edition

Garmin Zumo 500, 550 and 660

Please feel free to contact us if we can assist with any other questions.

Best regards,

Robert Wargo

 

[Fred W]

Here ya go........
Thank you for contacting the Cardo Systems Support Center regarding our products.

To listen to music through a phone, MP3 player or GPS unit, both Bluetooth devices must have the A2DP Bluetooth profile for stereo audio. Currently none of the Scala-rider products support this profile.

That is a significant point. Making a bluetooth connection to any Scala Q2 from any external device can only be done in "headset" profile, i.e. mono. But since none of the GPS units have A2DP profiles (yet) either, there's not much point in having a headset that does unless you want to pair directly with an iPod, XM radio, or other music source.

For now, wires are still king.

 

[Bungie]

For now, wires are still king.

I've got Rider2Rider, Rider2Passenger, Cell Phone, Tunes and GPS all squaking in my ears, in stereo. Not a wire to be found.

The problem everybody thinks it can be done with using the cheapest solutions on the market - which CANNOT do it. Spend the extra $150 (that your going to spend on extra CABLES and shipping anyway) and Git'r Done.

 

[FastJoyRide]

Steve: Since I upgraded to a Zumo 550 I'm about to pull the trigger on new Bluetooth tech too, but I would like a solution that would let me pipe in my Escort 8500 RD without having wires running to my helmet. Is this doable with the Scala?

A quality intercom is a high priority (we've been using Collett Platinum 900's for 6 years) as Sylvia and I ride two-up a lot. What kind of battery life do the Scala's have in a primarily intercom mode before needing recharging?

 

[ionbeam]

Unless you can get the 8500 to work through the Zumo you can't get the RD to the Scala wireless.

We use our Q2s in the intercom mode and have never run out of battery on a one day ride. It is not uncommon for some of our days to be in excess of 12 hrs. There was only one day that we ran out of battery power, and that was because someone had forgotten to recharge them over night... :blush:

 

[Bungie]

Steve: Since I upgraded to a Zumo 550 I'm about to pull the trigger on new Bluetooth tech too, but I would like a solution that would let me pipe in my Escort 8500 RD without having wires running to my helmet. Is this doable with the Scala?
A quality intercom is a high priority (we've been using Collett Platinum 900's for 6 years) as Sylvia and I ride two-up a lot. What kind of battery life do the Scala's have in a primarily intercom mode before needing recharging?

I don't have the Scala, I run the Collett. You shouldn't have a problem pairing it with the Escort. The MicroFone2's ship with two seperate batteries. The one, designed to be velcro'd to your helmet is good for about 4 -6 hours (less if its constant use). The separate travel pack I'm guessing is good for about 12hrs - though to be honest, I've never ran them down in a single riding session - and I've done more than a few 13 hr days.

Full Disclosure time...

The downside of the Colletts:

No external power. You have to use the batteries.

Will only communicate with another Collett (proprietary)

No external inputs (wired).

If you can live with these, its THE solution.

 

[DABRIT]

I don't know if this will help us out any but Scala are releasing a new headset, Longer range, Full Duplex and multiple connections, also has bluetooth connectivity listed for GPS's and MP3 players.

Not much information available yet, so if you are in the market for a headset it might be worth waiting on this. The spec's seem to be pretty good along with the price..

Scala Rider G4

DB

 

[Harald]

I'm in the process of deciding what system to install on my FJR. Found a new option that received a positive review on Webbikeworld:

BikerCom system

Webbikeworld review

I emailed the company for more info because they don't have a US distributer yet. They will sell the system with optional noise filter and free fedex shipping for $699.

 

[DABRIT]

Just a quick update problem solved at least to my satisfaction. :yahoo:

Here's a picture of the setup that works for my gps.Nuvi 780

Jabra 210 bluetooth dongle plugged into the headset output of the Nuvi 780 through a 2.5 mm to 3.5 mm headphone adapter and paired with scala rider q2, mobile phone (iphone) paired with nuvi 780 through bluetooth.

Cons,

MP3 in mono but as the scala rider Q2 only supports this mode over bluetooth not too much of a loss. Also the scala rider helmet speakers suck so if the quality was better coming from the Jabra I probably would not be able to tell.

There was some echo on one of the phone calls made from the helmet to my wife's mobile but it seemed to disappear when the microphone was moved up in the helmet.

In a totally quiet situation there was some clicking and background hiss heard through the helmet speakers. note the volume was turned up high and in an area of high radio traffic, ie wireless lans, bluetooth equipped vehicles etc. - not noticeable when directions or music playing.

Something else to charge at night.

Another non waterproof piece of equipment to put somewhere

Pros,

Under $230 invested total. nuvi $178 from Amazon, Jabra 210 $37 from Amazon, headset adapter $1.63 from RadioShack although I have a more elegant one on order for $10 Amazon. But I will need mounts and waterproof box.

The Jabra bluetooth dongle connects each time with no intervention ie the pairing seems to be very good no repairing needed so far.

Quite a small and easy setup

Really clear audio( at least phone and directions from the gps to the scala rider headset) also the phone calls to a landline were clear as a normal mobile conversation.

No permanent changes to any equipment so no warranties voided

Phone integration is no affected, ie you get dialing via voice or touchscreen as per normal

Can be adapted for any type of gps IF it has a headphone socket output or connections for an external speaker.

Uses my existing GPS.

Yeah I know it's redneck engineering. But it did not take long and no soldering or hacking together pieces, just plug and pray.

Yes I know it's easier and better to buy the Zumo but in the line of farkles this one is down the list after Givi and GP suspension.

Hope this helps, maybe not, but it was fun trying to solve the problem.

DB