"Seafoaming" your FJR?

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Is carbon buildup really a problem in FJR engines?
It was for me, back before I quit riding it like a limp-wristed sissy.. Now I wring her neck to redline in neutral to check rev limiter functionality and to prevent carbon build up..

Jes kidding. But I do no longer lug it. No revs below 3500 while underway. Routinely run hard in 2nd to near redline, on and off throttle. Jest all had a wonderful post about this back in the day.

 
Is carbon buildup really a problem in FJR engines?
I do essentially the same that Jeff suggested but give it about half hour to an hour while doing other stuff around the garage. Usually trying to find something in the mess takes that long.

I've experimented with Seafoam in a couple of engines that I either was about to take apart or had pieces from. SeaFoam definitely works better in a pan of parts on a hot day than in the winter, which supports the idea of using it in a hot engine. Like naphtha, it evaporates pretty quick too, so don't expect stuff to soak overnight in an open pan.

The big thing that I found was that instead of touching the actual cooked-hard carbon, it reduced the tacky brown hardening crud before it became the hard black stuff. Which is a good thing, because from the injector bodies to the intake valves is where that crud collects and it will eventually bake on. Everybody talks about the valves and the piston crowns, but forgets that rough walls on an intake manifold also massively affect air flow.

I had a Ford 4-cyl that I SeaFoamed, removed the throttle body, looked in the manifold, then re-assembled, and tried again. The reason is that after the first treatment I got lots of black but it didn't totally clear the engine, so I took a look at what the first treatment did. It really did take several treatments over an evening, but the last time I removed the throttle body the manifold had lost much of the tacky touch and looked a bit better. Not fantastic but better and the car ran much better.

As for hydro-lock, you'd need to have an appreciable amount of actual liquid in the cylinder for this to be a concern.

 
Not FJR specific, but yesterday I took out my Poulan hedge trimmer and it ran like absolute crap. Would stall when given gas and couldn't reach full revs. I put a little Seafoam in the tank and after about 3/4 of the tank had run through it was back up to full performance.

Apples to oranges, I know, but Seafoam definitely takes care of gunk in real time in a running engine. Can't speak for carbon build up.

 
I have a question about Seafoam since I've never used it before. I'm having no issues with the bike but for preventative maintenance I wanted to run some sort of FI cleaner through the bike. I found this video on Youtube with a guy seamfoaming a 2006 Gixxer 1000 FI bike. Is this the correct way to do it for our bikes? Put some in the tank, then pour a little through the air intake tube as shown in the video? Which air intake tube on the FJR do you use? (Location?)
Or should I just use some regular FI injector cleaner that you run through a full gas tank only?

The really funny part of this is...

THE TUBE HE'S POURING THE SEAFOAM IN IS THE INTAKE HOSE FOR THE "2ND AIR" SYSTEM!!

That's their equivalent of our PAIR system. That hose feeds air (and Seafoam) into the EXHAUST side of the combustion process, not the intake side!

Here are some pictures with the air box removed so you can see where that hose actually goes...

https://www.bugmanweb.com/gsxr/pair.html

 
THE TUBE HE'S POURING THE SEAFOAM IN IS THE INTAKE HOSE FOR THE "2ND AIR" SYSTEM!!
That's their equivalent of our PAIR system. That hose feeds air (and Seafoam) into the EXHAUST side of the combustion process, not the intake side!
Would that be a good way to remove carbon on the exhaust side of the engine?

 
THE TUBE HE'S POURING THE SEAFOAM IN IS THE INTAKE HOSE FOR THE "2ND AIR" SYSTEM!!
That's their equivalent of our PAIR system. That hose feeds air (and Seafoam) into the EXHAUST side of the combustion process, not the intake side!
Would that be a good way to remove carbon on the exhaust side of the engine?
Not sure about that. Maybe it would dissolve some built up carbon in the exhaust pipe. Maybe some would work it's way back to the back side of the exhaust valves but that would be swimming upstream, so to speak.

Usually you introduce Seafoam through the TBS ports with the hope that it will clean up the intake throats, intake valves, combustion chamber, exhaust valves, etc. In fact, the guy says that tube takes the Seafoam "...straight to the intake." And later "...it's spitting out that white smoke, cleaning out the motor intake...." so I think HE thought he was introducing it on the intake side of the motor.

I'm not actually that much of a wrench but it just so happens that I have an '05 GSX-R that I did quite a bit of work on last summer chasing down an intermittent electrical problem. As soon as I saw the video I started chuckling....

 
I've never "decarbonized" a bike ... but having now pulled the head off a 24k and looking into the intakes of a 95k FJR ... there isn't much carbon on the intake side of things. I'm not sure there's much carbon there to remove.

But the exhaust side is totally completely black with thick deposits. That's where it's needed.

 
Look at a FJR Throttle Body with about 50,000 miles on it before you dismiss cleaning with Seafoam. And if you do five FJR valve checks without prior cleaning (Seafoam or your choice), at least one of those will yield an intermittent seating valve that's impossible to gap.

Seafoam into the TBS nipples as described is easy enough to do. Doesn't require removing throttle body etc. And it helps tremendously with rough idle rpm and the brownish carbon deposits. It won't touch the heavy black deposits on the PAIR system components. Pull the valve cover and sit down for a good afternoon of scrubbing and brass brushing IF you want to save that system. I prefer to cap it all off. But if you are determined to save the PAIR system, find someone with a glass bead blaster cabinet to clean the valve cover cavities.

I've logged over 250,000 FJR miles to date, so my experience and advice is distorted by miles that many may never see.

 
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