Slip on ranking...

[khrome]

I have used the search and read a lot about the different options from past posts. Don't know that I have seen all of them but was hoping for some help in my decision process. So anyone who has rode with or had a chance to hear multiple different slip ons could you:

1. List the loudest to the mildest. and

2. With no reference to loudness list your preference of the best sounding to the not so great to your ears.

thanks in advance for your help

khrome

 

[madmike2]

I have used the search and read a lot about the different options from past posts. Don't know that I have seen all of them but was hoping for some help in my decision process. So anyone who has rode with or had a chance to hear multiple different slip ons could you:
1. List the loudest to the mildest. and

2. With no reference to loudness list your preference of the best sounding to the not so great to your ears.

thanks in advance for your help

khrome

Its all personal preference and very subjective. Holeshots with the header are very loud. Stock mufflers are very quiet and help keep you in stealth mode.

Bluestreek's Leo Vince's are a bit more throaty than my Holeshots, perhaps a tad more raspy. But they're very close.

Your best bet is to attend a rally or group ride/get-together and hear each type of slip-on for yourself. Be sure and follow one during the ride so that you'll know what you are doing to the ears of those behind you.

 

[khrome]

Its all personal preference and very subjective. Holeshots with the header are very loud. Stock mufflers are very quiet and help keep you in stealth mode.
Bluestreek's Leo Vince's are a bit more throaty than my Holeshots, perhaps a tad more raspy. But they're very close.

Your best bet is to attend a rally or group ride/get-together and hear each type of slip-on for yourself. Be sure and follow one during the ride so that you'll know what you are doing to the ears of those behind you.

True. It is personal preference. But unless I have a chance to hear all of them in person I am going to have to make a decision based on others references. I doubt that I will be able to hear all and maybe not any before I make a choice. I have a tendancy to go for the deepest smoothest (not raspy) sound. However I do prefer a little on the louder side without being obnoxious.

Thanks for your input. At this time I am only considering slip ons. Not a full system.

khrome

 

[Mike-H]

Still, what MM2 says is true.....attend a get together 1st....so you can hear a variety....WFO comes to mind.....something to think about .....

 

[C&C]

I like the stealth mode (stock) and have been told by people I've passed that the stockers sound great. If it's your ear your wanting to hear a different sound, you supposed to be wearing earplugs anyway, so save your money. JMO

 

[khrome]

Come on someone else help me out a little...

khrome

 

[madmike2]

Still, what MM2 says is true.....attend a get together 1st....so you can hear a variety....WFO comes to mind.....something to think about .....

Yep! And it ain't all thet fur aweigh accordin tuh mah kalendar. Yew kin fine lotsa folks thet be Texicans a'commen soes yew kin join up with'em. Git weth it, ther ain't menny rooms leff. Lookie h'yar, thers bees only 7 rooms tuh be rentin'.

If nothing else, there are several different groups who ride from the DFW area and some of them have aftermarket slip-ons. Though that still may be a long ride for you.

 

[madmike2]

If you go to the Holeshot website, HERE, and click on FJR1300, you will hear the slip-ons mounted on feejer/weejerman's bike. He has since added the Dale Walker header.

If you go

, you can see a video of jdog's BlueFlame dual ports.
As my ears get older (along with the rest of my body parts--if my mind and conscience would only keep up!) I don't hear an appreciable difference between the Leo Vinces, Holeshots or Staintunes. Believe me when I say that the "full systems" are louder (i.e., w/ headers: Muzzy or Holeshot), though I've only heard 2 bikes with the full system , Fairlaner's and Feejer/weejerman's. On longer rides slip-ons can begin to drone and cause some riders a little fatigue.

Evenchully, yewer gunna hafta mek up yer own mind wif noe apreeshuble hep frum eny of usn's. Mostly 'cuz et'll be whut yer eers er gunna hafta be a'listening tew.

 

[Geezer]

Personally, I have never heard an FJR sound that I actually like. Of everything I have heard I like the stock best just because it's the quietest. That said, I run a full Muzzy system because I wanted to get rid of the heat from the cat. Removing the cat makes a difference and I am not switching back, but the Muzzy muffler is loud. I had to repack it with Hindle packing to quiet it some, but it is still a lot louder than I'd like and I'm looking for ways to quiet it down even more. My point is that, as others have said, it is a person choice.

I don't think I can tell if one set of slip-ons is louder than another, they just sound different. I've only heard a few different ones and I don't know what brands they were.

Are you interested in appearance or just sound? How about quailit? From what others have posted, the Walkers are very good quality. Price? For me price is important and I chose Muzzy because they had the lbest price for what I wanted. Not sure if that's true for slip-ons.

 

[khrome]

Well lets see. First off let me say after owning 15 or so bikes I have been on a lot of boards and bought a lot of pipes for bikes and then theirs my dirt bikes and four wheelers also. I know it gets boaring and a total beating for board members to have to re hash the pipe thing over and over but I am new to the bike and I just want to make the best and most knowledgable decision I can. In regards to fit and finish, I have never bought an aluminum pipe as I stated in the thread I started about aluminum. I have in the past bought either stainless or carbon fiber. But the older I get the more frugal, however to clarify that statement my frugal and your frugal or probably worlds apart. I have traded bikes basically once a year for the past 15 years, one year I bought 3 different bikes(all new). So saying I am a little more frugal now does'nt mean much to most who know me. For me the tone and volume are the most important part of an aftermarket pipe. The look is important but there is really nothing wrong with the "look" of the stock pipes for me. If there are two pipes that look similiar and sound similiar then price comes in to play.

One thing that I am ass-u-me-ing is that with slip ons there is'nt a need to re-map. I am not adding slip ons to add hp, just be able to hear the exhaust instead of the sewing machine whine. The Holeshots videos they have on their website sound as though you can hear the motor still over the pipes. Now just to let you know I am listening to these on a full 6 channel surround 500 watt system with 10" sub woofer, so the sound reproduction is there, not listening through a pair of $2 head phones.

The blue flame link provided sounded very nice, a little zippery but still nice none the less. I am "assuming" again that the FJR version sounds very similiar to those. Another issue which is why I was asking everyone to rank the pipes they have heard in order of volume and then sound quality, is because I realize that different recordings not done in a controlled environment would not be an apples to apples comparison and they only way to know the volume levels for sure is to hear in person and yes I know I can spend week/months trying to find someone with all of the various brands on to listen to but I know that just is'nt gonna happen. So I am back to reading and hoping for everyone to bare with me and keep responding to help me make a good decision.

All responses appreciated.

khrome

 

[madmike2]

I have not found it necessary to add a PowerCommander while running my Holeshots. There are others with aftermarket slip-ons who also run the same way. I would think that if one replaces the entire exhaust system, a PowerCommander-type modification will be necessary as the restrictions removed when eliminating the Catalytic Converters would likely result in a very lean condition.

Regardless of the system you are listening with, the sound quality will be limited by the microphone & recording system.

I found another sound clip today, so listen to this one: Bounce's D&D sound test.

_______________________________________________________________________

MM2's Listing for Loudness:

1. Holeshot full system

2. Muzzy full system

Comment: Too close to call without a dbA meter

MM2's Listing for Sound Quality (My not-so-humble opinion & with no "base" for comparison):

Holeshot (stainless)-perfect (J/K! I bought them before BikeEffects started carrying slip-ons)

Staintunes (stainless)-deeper tone

LeoVince (stainless?)-a bit louder than Holeshots and a touch "raspy" (Bluestreek and Madmike side-by-side. Subjective 59 yr. old ears)

Blueflame-I think they louder because the plug/restrictor can be removed. The link provided IS an FJR. Its jdog109socal's bike in Southern CA.

Comment: None of the slip-ons will mask or cover the engine noise. The "whine" will always be present. Riding on the highway with earplugs in, I only hear the exhaust. Without earplugs I can hear the engine "whirr" and the tires/pavement interface.

Conclusion: If you want the loudest in an attempt to overshadow any ambient engine mechanical noise, you should be shopping for a complete system.

Perhaps Geezer can comment on how much of the engine sound his system masks, but he already posted that the system was too loud for him. Fairlaner (Richard) is a knowledgeable and decent bloke, so you might PM his and ask his opinion about the Holeshot system, vis-a-vis covering the engine sounds. (Just in case he hasn't seen this thread.) You might also ask the same question of Feejer/weejerman who now has a complete Holeshot system (The 1st one made and mounted?).

Is that more helpful?

 

[odot]

Just so you know, mike.....that's an alabama accent you are using....which means he has an even longer way to ride to hear some aftermarket slip ons.

 

[madmike2]

Once I start playing around, I forget. There is no intention on my part to suggest the same "accent" is universal in application, or even "real".

Y'all pleeze fergive me. Besides, Alabama? I thought more like Appalachia. I've taken some of the syntax and expressions from a friend in West Virginia, others from a neighbor who's from Tennessee. I hope everyone understands its all "in fun" and I mean nothing personal. I KNOW we Kalifornicationers talk weirdly. To make matters worse, much of my family is from the mid-West and I have to think about some of the adjectives and common descriptions they use. Its all in fun.

 

[rogdeb]

Once I start playing around, I forget. There is no intention on my part to suggest the same "accent" is universal in application, or even "real".
Y'all pleeze fergive me. Besides, Alabama? I thought more like Appalachia. I've taken some of the syntax and expressions from a friend in West Virginia, others from a neighbor who's from Tennessee. I hope everyone understands its all "in fun" and I mean nothing personal. I KNOW we Kalifornicationers talk weirdly. To make matters worse, much of my family is from the mid-West and I have to think about some of the adjectives and common descriptions they use. Its all in fun.

I think accents are weird :lol:

 

[Fencer]

Just so you know, mike.....that's an alabama accent you are using....which means he has an even longer way to ride to hear some aftermarket slip ons.

What? I didn't hear a Ya'll whilst he was a sippin hin sweet tea

I like the stealth of the stock myself.

The muzzys sound guud, but touch down to early for an aggressive rider.

 

[madmike2]

I think accents are weird :lol:

:lol: :lol:

You would! I'd love to get Rogdeb, Fairlaner and Skyway (Two Brits and a Welshman--for those who don't know) together so I could just listen. When you guys could get on a roll and the slang started, we from the "colonies" would be lost. (Yeah, I know, MMM2 "just listen? Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!)

Now....back to the regularly scheduled thread about slip-ons.

 

[khrome]

allright :yahoo: lots of good info starting to flow now :clapping: when i clicked your blueflame link it came up with a 4 into 1 on a daytona... i went back however after your reply and found the FJR vid on the same page...

Are the blueflame dual ports and single port different in tone ? and volume?

Also I had read back through a bunch of old posts before posting this question and someone had provided a link to an online supplier that had good prices and now I have lost it.

khrome

 

[madmike2]

when i clicked your blueflame link it came up with a 4 into 1 on a daytona... i went back however after your reply and found the FJR vid on the same page...

When I added the link I was viewing jdog's video so I thought that's the one it would send you to. Oops!

a link to an online supplier that had good prices and now I have lost it.

From the Vendors page. If you check this out, read Jeff's info on how to apply your FJR Forum discount on his webpage. The LeoVince slip-ons have a removeable baffle.

Blue Flames

BTW, IIRC, the Muzzy system w/header is a single muffler.

 

[Geezer]

FWIW, the Muzzy full system is a single muffler. Both the header and muffler are pretty light weight and that's one of the reasons I bought the system.

Regarding engine noise, when riding, even though I wear ear plugs, I still hear the engine. Most of the exhaust sound goes out the back so the rider doesn't get the full experience of that.