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That's in Canada.

Here we have Secretary Chertoff's remarks:

"The plot's operatives planned to bring liquid explosives and detonators, disguised as beverages, electronic devices or other common objects, on board flights to the United States".

TSA:

Sir, I'm going to have to take this bottle of water away from you since it might be a liquid explosive, and I'm going to have to mix it with all of these other bottles of possibly liquid explosive, and I'm going to have to dump them all in this trash can... together. Nevermind that the plot specifically mentions mixing chemicals and/or nitroglycerin... which explodes if handled too roughly.

In the mean time we have a lady pouring her liquid that is not safe enough to bring on the plane into a bucket full of all the other liquids not safe enough to bring on the plane.

What a crock!

 
:angry2: Saw one of these idiots at O'hare last year actually SHAKE a fukin bag she said looked suspicious while we were tending to a poss heart attack, I damn near had one. Luckily our pt's wife came over and told us it was his daily panic attack so I could tell our ghetto trash girl why she shouldn't do that, mercury switches, unstable explosive packages etc. All she did was laugh it off, until the LT of the squad, who was Navy EOD tore into her, her supervisor(clueless as well) and we left as he was asking for someone higher up so he could tear THEM a new one. When they got back to the fh he said he's drivin from now on.

When you hire **** you get ****. I just feel bad for the TSA people that really care and do it as well as they can, we never notice them though. I was told the best waiter is the one you never notice(used to be one) the same goes for all other jobs that deal w/ the public. Don't forget how stupid and naive as well as entitled todays "americans" are, most of them make me sick w/ their me me me attitudes :diablo: Sorry about the rant,must go take meds and lie down now.

 
That's in Canada.
Yes. But according to many US politicians our 'lax' immigration policies makes Canada a haven for terrorists and other undesirables...And the Toronto-Montreal route runs right along the border...And Canadian flights don't have armed Air Marshalls aboard (although some of those scAir Canada flight attendants are much scarier)...

Wonder if bramfrank got through McCarran security quickly because he had the same 'loser' face that most people leaving Vegas have and so was obviously not a terrorist? :lol:

So a few months back I'm going through McCarran (yes, wearing that 'loser' face) security and I'm instructed to take off my sandals. Not wanting to walk barefoot across the floor I pull out a pair of paper slippers (same as you get in a hospital) and put them on. Well, the TSA guy says that if I insist on wearing footwear I'll be subject to secondary search, no matter that I said I'd put the slippers in the garbage once I had my sandals back. I look at the other TSA people there and several immediately avert their eyes from me...in embarrassment? Secondary search guy just has me remove the slippers, wands my bare feet (?), hands me my sandals, puts the paper slippers in the trash bin and bids me a good flight.

Having some brainless sap on a power trip certainly doesn't make me feel safe, glad there were others who were able to show some kind of common dog. Kind of reminds me of the movie scene depicting security guards letting a line of criminals with obvious contraband weapons through while pouncing on the average joe tourist with a nail file. Maybe the profiling SouthernFJR talked about isn't such a bad idea, although I've flown through Ben Gurion airport in Tel Aviv and I have to tell you their security measures make anything on this side of the pond look like a Benny Hill skit...

 
That's in Canada.
Here we have Secretary Chertoff's remarks:

"The plot's operatives planned to bring liquid explosives and detonators, disguised as beverages, electronic devices or other common objects, on board flights to the United States".

TSA:

Sir, I'm going to have to take this bottle of water away from you since it might be a liquid explosive, and I'm going to have to mix it with all of these other bottles of possibly liquid explosive, and I'm going to have to dump them all in this trash can... together. Nevermind that the plot specifically mentions mixing chemicals and/or nitroglycerin... which explodes if handled too roughly.

In the mean time we have a lady pouring her liquid that is not safe enough to bring on the plane into a bucket full of all the other liquids not safe enough to bring on the plane.

What a crock!
If anyone wishes to carry liquid on such as baby milk they plan to make them taste it in front of air line staff, what would happen if it were nitro?

 
Then you wouldn't have to worry about having a heart attack any time soon.

 
Okay, made it back, so my bike is not available.

Security wasn't too painful. Not too good, either, I might add. The Houston (Bush) Airport is a freakin' joke. That place is horrible in design and service.

 
I just flew back home from Little Rock. It's amazing how this security reaction has played out. Couldn't take my full water bottle through the security checkpoint but I could take the empty bottle through and refill it on the other side. Couldn't buy a can of tomato juice or bottle of Dasani in the after-security shops and take it on the plane but could get the very same products on the plane, even had the flight attendant hand me the unopened can. Our plane had to return to the airport and we had to deplane and shift to another aircraft. People with duty-free alcohol and such, who had been given their purchases as they boarded, walked out into the terminal, over to the new boarding gate and onto the new aircraft with their purchases under their arms, no questions asked. But ostensibly we couldn't take a can of Coke purchased on the walk through the terminal onto the plane - not that anyone was checking anyway.

Going through security, the old granny one line over had her knitting needles and scissors passed but had a half-full 50ml tube of prescription skin ointment confiscated because the prescription label had been put on the box and not on the tube. In the airport, seemingly every 30 seconds, an announcement about heightened security levels and the ban on liquids and gels.

Looking at the TSA and CATSA websites: Did you know you can take a bull-whip or a 6 3/4 inch screwdriver in your carry-on baggage but you can't take a jar of applesauce or can of Boost?

Is it just me or does this security stuff just seem like fear-mongering that has a whole lot of the travelling public inconvenienced and stressed out? Because it sure doesn't make a lot of practical sense.

 
So a few months back I'm going through McCarran (yes, wearing that 'loser' face) security and I'm instructed to take off my sandals. Not wanting to walk barefoot across the floor I pull out a pair of paper slippers (same as you get in a hospital) and put them on. Well, the TSA guy says that if I insist on wearing footwear I'll be subject to secondary search, no matter that I said I'd put the slippers in the garbage once I had my sandals back. I look at the other TSA people there and several immediately avert their eyes from me...in embarrassment? Secondary search guy just has me remove the slippers, wands my bare feet (?), hands me my sandals, puts the paper slippers in the trash bin and bids me a good flight.
My favorite footwear story happened in Baltimore. I was daytripping somewhere, so I rode my bike in. I get to the front of the queue at the metal detector and the TSA agent barks through the machine and points at my boots, "Hey, those are going to set the machine off, you're going to have to take them off." I look around, and the only seats are on his side of the machine. Since these particular boots laced up to above mid-calf, I barked back, "No problem, when the boots set the machine off, I'll be able to sit in those seats over there and take them off." Sure enough, with all the steel in the boots, setting the machine off was a piece of cake. I think the TSA agent wasn't used to customers barking back alternatives to the way he wanted things to go down, so maybe this guy decided to conduct an anti-terrorist field interview. So he's kneeling on the floor, eagerly awaiting the availability of foot-free boots, when he begins the anti-terrorist screening. "Yeah", says he, "I ride, too. I was going to get a pair of these boots, but, with where I work they just wouldn't be practical. I'd set these machines off several times a day." "So", says I, "when it's gotten to the point that the US Government is influencing your choice of footwear, haven't things gone too far?" The look on his face was priceless. I'd decribe it as a perfectly legible combination of a bold, "you can't say that to me, I'm a cop" and a terrified, "****, could that be true?"

My favorite TSA experience of all time had nothing to do with footwear. I was traveling via the small airport in Charleston. I got selected for special treatment. As I was going through the "Bad Boys, Bad Boys" bit, arms and legs spread, being wanded all over, I had a brainstorm. I decided that this Fed probably had a deep-seeded, perhaps instinctual, need to feel like he is providing a service. And I had just the question for him. It was hard for me not to smile when the question occurred to me, so I very gently set it up. "So, I'm not from around here and I wonder if you can help?" The wanding stops immediately and, from my backal regions, the puffy TSA face appears, smiling, right in front of my own face. "Sure, what do you need?", he asks. Struggling to pull this off smoothly, I ask, "How far to America from here?" A fuse blew right there. He came back with something like, "This is for your protection." While I wasn't about to accept his premise, I'll admit that I was surprised he caught on so quickly to the sarcasm in my question. "No", I said, "I am no more secure right here than I was when I left my house this morning." That was the last straw. This guy became the Tasmanian Devil, making that generator noise and spinning as he approached each of his 5, or so, TSA buddies who were just sort of standing around doing nothing. His question for each was, "Did you hear what he said? He said, how far to America! Can you believe that?"

Incredibly, I got gypped out of the rest of my wanding.

 
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I'd decribe it as a perfectly legible combination of a bold, "you can't say that to me, I'm a cop" and a terrified, "****, could that be true?"
Those guys aren't cops, you give them too much credit. They have no more arrest power than a citizen does. When something arrest-worthy arises, they call airport police.

Good stories.

 
Before I started reading this thread, I was debating whether or not to fly to NC next week or ride the feejer - decision made. Make room on the road south from DC boys - I'll be flyin' at zero feet AGL!

 
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