Spline grease alternative

[Zolton]

I've got another nube question. I'm doing the recommended spine lube on my "just purchased" '06A and I can't get a hold of the highly recommended HondaPro Moly 60 paste to do the job. Instead I've got some Amsoil moly fortified heavy duty synthetic grease. The tube says "#2 lithium complex", "70 lb. Timken rating", "#2 consistency grade, CC wheel bearing performance, LB Chassis lubricant performance", "meets or exceeds NLGI (ASTM D-4950". I don't know what most of that means but I'd like to know if this is an acceptable substitute for the Honda super goo.

 

[SkooterG]

Well, I don't know about that stuff either, but I bet it will work fine until you get the 'real' stuff. It shouldn't be that hard.

 

[TNT]

This is an extract from a ST1300 site.

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An alternative to moly is the new poly-flourinated lubricants made by DuPont called Krytox Teflon Bearing Grease. These chemicals are simply magic. They have almost no known solvents, are chemically inert, and don't burn at any temperature, even in a pure oxygen atmosphere. This is pretty clearly the only grease to use. See this article https://www.sandsmachine.com/grease_t.htm. Nascar mechanics have found that Krytox grease can reduce the temperature of spline joints on driveshafts by 150°. Also, this stuff lasts forever. It is, unfortunately, quite expensive.

Krytox is compatible with moly - in fact DuPont sells a high pressure Krytox which mixes the two. You may hear some horror story from some mechanic about mixing greases and the result turning radioactive or some such. Don't worry, it won't happen with moly or Krytox.

Krytox greases:

DuPont XHT-AC extra high temperature anti-corrosive Krytox. $30 for a 2oz tube, pn 10195K25; $113 for an 8oz tube, from McMaster Carr. https://www.mcmaster.com/

DuPont XHT-BDX extra high temperature extra bonding Krytox. $63 for a 2oz tube pn 10195K22; $230 for an 8oz tube pn10195K24 from McMaster Carr. https://www.mcmaster.com/

LocTite Krytox HyperLube, pn 29711. about $35 for two ounces.

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I know several people that have been using the above product and are happy with it. I will be using it on my bikes.

Vicki

 

[Bounce]

There's a link on this page to an on-line source of the Honda Pro Moly 60 paste.

https://www.fjr-tips.org/maint/spline/spline.html

 

[TNT]

Personally, I don't think the Honda Moly is all it's cracked up to be. I used it on my first Valkyire religiously and still had to replace the splines at 65,000 miles. I switched to a product called TS Moly, can't remember where I ordered it from, but the splines showed much less wear using it up to 97, 000 miles when the bike got totaled by a deer.

 

[otrfjr]

I used this Amsoil grease on my splines at 600 miles and nothing bad/noticeable has occurred yet. Getting new skins in the near future, so we'll see how the splines looks after 8k with the Amsoil grease.

 

[JimLor]

Mobil 1.

 

[Zorlac]

https://www.casporttouring.com/store/mercha...onc_Maintenance

https://www.tsmoly.com/catalog/product_info...;products_id=89

https://www.tsmoly.com/catalog/product_info...;products_id=53

 

[radman]

GM has a moly lube specifically for driveshaft splines, brought out when the C/K pickups developed a sticking issue. Most Chev dealers should have it.

 

[user 2024]

I use Krytox everywhere I was using Honda Moly.

 

[Zolton]

I was looking for a "don't use it' or "it will work OK" answer. This bike has 6,600 PAMPERED miles on it. I was hoping to go for a nice long tour prior to the end of the season and wanted to do a spine lube before hand. The previous owner didn't know about this important issue. I'll track down the proper lube when I am ready to put new rubber on (the stock rubber has LOTS of miles left to go). BTW, on my very first ride (with my girlfriend on no less) I decreased the size of the chicken strips without even trying, that's how easy the original owner was on this thing. He was very picky about maintenance though

 

[Zorlac]

"I was looking for a "don't use it' or "it will work OK" answer."

Just remember, every answer given here is worth twice what you pay for it.

 

[S76]

GM has a moly lube specifically for driveshaft splines, brought out when the C/K pickups developed a sticking issue. Most Chev dealers should have it.

Ford had the same issue with their Super Duty trucks and they have a special lube for it too that will work fine. Should be able to find it at any dealer.

 

[Zolton]

That's all great. It was the Amsoil product that I already bought that I'm concerned with :blink:

 

[painman]

Any moly or bearing grease should work. No big deal. Bought mine at the local Honda shop. PM. <><

 

[Zolton]

Any moly or bearing grease should work. No big deal. Bought mine at the local Honda shop. PM. <><

I figured as much. I was just fishing to see if I'd get a big "Holy *****....don't use that stuff!" from the experts here. I've just completed the spline lube using said Amsoil goo.

Man...the drive shaft housing (pumpkin) acorn nuts are a tad tricky to get a torque wrench on. So is the brake assy arm nut.

I've finally realized that I'm driven to take apart any new piece of machinery I purchase, even to just see how it works. I should seek therapy. :dribble:

 

[Briano]

I use Bel-Ray Waterproof Grease. I was at the Yamaha Shop when I remembered I needed grease, and that's what they had. No prob's yet.

Brian

P.S. If the pattern stays true, I'll be replacing my rear tire again in about 2000 more miles. I'll find out if the Bel-Ray works when I relube the splines then.

 

[FJamR]

GM has a moly lube specifically for driveshaft splines, brought out when the C/K pickups developed a sticking issue. Most Chev dealers should have it.

Ford had the same issue with their Super Duty trucks and they have a special lube for it too that will work fine. Should be able to find it at any dealer.

Been a GM line tech for years and was using the GM stuff. Was at the GM training center in Burbank and they were recommending 488-1 Red Crown lube for slip yoke splines. Been using it ever since. The stuff is awesome.

 

[markjenn]

I'd think any good moly grease would be fine. I love the Bel-Ray waterproof grease and use it for all sorts of things, but I wouldn't use it where a moly grease is specified.

- Mark