Stolen in Newport Beach

[sparky3008]

Sparky, again I'm only guessing but I have to believe 50X as many sport bikes are stolen for crash damage as for blown engines. Else the Mafia warehouses would be stacked to the ceilings with undamaged, engine-less sportbike carcasses due to no market.
Again it comes back to the type of person that drives the market for stolen parts just to save themselves a buck. Pretty shortsighted of them as it puts their own bike at risk.

And no, I'm not saying that everyone that owns a Harley or sport bike is this type of person but obviously many are or the thieves wouldn't target them so heavily.

If someone knows there're getting too good a deal and doesn't ask the questions and buys anyway they're the part of the problem. Others are only too aware of whats up, don't give a damn and are most of the problem.

The latter group are worse than thieves cause they don't have the guts to suck it up and do without until they can afford to do it right. The 'naive' group isn't much better, mostly fooling themselves to salve their conscience.

And guess what the FJR market is tiny itsy bitsy nothing at all no one wants them.

Very easy to dump a carcass. The liter motor can fit in a 750 frame and they race other 750's, beat them, take their title now they have a legal bike they can sell. The motor is worth much more and they don't have to find any buyers for anything...

Harleys are pieced out yes but sportbikes are a different world.

Again has nothing to do with too much bike for the unskilled. You unskilled FJR pilots are dropping your bikes all the time. This was the comment that got my goat...

Sparky, again I'm only guessing but I have to believe 50X as many sport bikes are stolen for crash damage as for blown engines. Else the Mafia warehouses would be stacked to the ceilings with undamaged, engine-less sportbike carcasses due to no market.

Again it comes back to the type of person that drives the market for stolen parts just to save themselves a buck. Pretty shortsighted of them as it puts their own bike at risk.

And no, I'm not saying that everyone that owns a Harley or sport bike is this type of person but obviously many are or the thieves wouldn't target them so heavily.

If someone knows there're getting too good a deal and doesn't ask the questions and buys anyway they're the part of the problem. Others are only too aware of whats up, don't give a damn and are most of the problem.

The latter group are worse than thieves cause they don't have the guts to suck it up and do without until they can afford to do it right. The 'naive' group isn't much better, mostly fooling themselves to salve their conscience.

And guess what the FJR market is tiny itsy bitsy nothing at all no one wants them.

Very easy to dump a carcass. The liter motor can fit in a 750 frame and they race other 750's, beat them, take their title now they have a legal bike they can sell. The motor is worth much more and they don't have to find any buyers for anything...

Harleys are pieced out yes but sportbikes are a different world.

Again has nothing to do with too much bike for the unskilled. You unskilled FJR pilots are dropping your bikes all the time. This was the comment that got my goat...

You act like they have a sign stolen parts or dirt cheap parts for sell. Heck I just sold over $400 of parts for $200 so they must have been stolen right. Do you know where to go to get stolen parts? I don't. These are a group of people doing this stuff. Biker gangs for Harleys are doing the same thing buying parts, racing etc.

It is not a huge group or they would be shut down. Drugs too, I know a few because they are friends but for me to go out and search out a drug dealer, not easy to get one who doesn't know you to sell to you.

 

[sparky3008]

Sparky, again I'm only guessing but I have to believe 50X as many sport bikes are stolen for crash damage as for blown engines. Else the Mafia warehouses would be stacked to the ceilings with undamaged, engine-less sportbike carcasses due to no market.

Again it comes back to the type of person that drives the market for stolen parts just to save themselves a buck. Pretty shortsighted of them as it puts their own bike at risk.

And no, I'm not saying that everyone that owns a Harley or sport bike is this type of person but obviously many are or the thieves wouldn't target them so heavily.

If someone knows there're getting too good a deal and doesn't ask the questions and buys anyway they're the part of the problem. Others are only too aware of whats up, don't give a damn and are most of the problem.

The latter group are worse than thieves cause they don't have the guts to suck it up and do without until they can afford to do it right. The 'naive' group isn't much better, mostly fooling themselves to salve their conscience.

And guess what the FJR market is tiny itsy bitsy nothing at all no one wants them.

Very easy to dump a carcass. The liter motor can fit in a 750 frame and they race other 750's, beat them, take their title now they have a legal bike they can sell. The motor is worth much more and they don't have to find any buyers for anything...

Harleys are pieced out yes but sportbikes are a different world.

Again has nothing to do with too much bike for the unskilled. You unskilled FJR pilots are dropping your bikes all the time. This was the comment that got my goat...

Sparky, again I'm only guessing but I have to believe 50X as many sport bikes are stolen for crash damage as for blown engines. Else the Mafia warehouses would be stacked to the ceilings with undamaged, engine-less sportbike carcasses due to no market.

Again it comes back to the type of person that drives the market for stolen parts just to save themselves a buck. Pretty shortsighted of them as it puts their own bike at risk.

And no, I'm not saying that everyone that owns a Harley or sport bike is this type of person but obviously many are or the thieves wouldn't target them so heavily.

If someone knows there're getting too good a deal and doesn't ask the questions and buys anyway they're the part of the problem. Others are only too aware of whats up, don't give a damn and are most of the problem.

The latter group are worse than thieves cause they don't have the guts to suck it up and do without until they can afford to do it right. The 'naive' group isn't much better, mostly fooling themselves to salve their conscience.

And guess what the FJR market is tiny itsy bitsy nothing at all no one wants them.

Very easy to dump a carcass. The liter motor can fit in a 750 frame and they race other 750's, beat them, take their title now they have a legal bike they can sell. The motor is worth much more and they don't have to find any buyers for anything...

Harleys are pieced out yes but sportbikes are a different world.

Again has nothing to do with too much bike for the unskilled. You unskilled FJR pilots are dropping your bikes all the time. This was the comment that got my goat...

You act like they have a sign stolen parts or dirt cheap parts for sell. Heck I just sold over $400 of parts for $200 so they must have been stolen right. Do you know where to go to get stolen parts? I don't. These are a group of people doing this stuff. Biker gangs for Harleys are doing the same thing buying parts, racing etc.

It is not a huge group or they would be shut down. Drugs too, I know a few because they are friends but for me to go out and search out a drug dealer, not easy to get one who doesn't know you to sell to you.

My point and it wasn't clear above is this. I have a sport bike and I need (whatever), I go online to say EBAY or to oh FJRFORUM, GIXXER.com, GSXR.com wherever and I go to the wanted section or for sale section.

I see or post my need for said part, BAM I get a hit and before I know it I have a like new part for way less than it would cost me at the dealer. Do I know it is stolen? Are you sure the parts you buy off of here aren't stolen? So the buyer of all these parts has no idea he/she is buying stolen merchandise he/she just wants a deal and then we get bone heads that call us the problem. Guess you better stop buying and deals off of here or ebay, they could be stolen you don't know...

 

[fjrchooser]

Thanks Sparky , I see now. The Harley guys and the sport bike racers are the problem, not the rashers. And I agree with you - the internet does make it easier to be one of the 'naive' ones. <_<

 

[sparky3008]

Thanks Sparky , I see now. The Harley guys and the sport bike racers are the problem, not the rashers. And I agree with you - the internet does make it easier to be one of the 'naive' ones. <_<

Smartass in every crowd. Nope, the thief himself is racing against a legite guy/girl. The thief is cheating him and they don't even know it. The rashers don't wreck their bike and say hey I will just go to the local bike thief and get new parts. They go online and unknowingly buy stolen parts...

 

[fjrchooser]

Hmmm... I give. This IS a lot like participating in the Special Olympics, isn't it ?

 

[sparky3008]

Hmmm... I give. This IS a lot like participating in the Special Olympics, isn't it ?

Not sport bike riders fault wether they can ride or not that some people see a chance to make money and steal bikes and sell them stolen goods without their knowledge.

If the FJR market wasn't so small I would bet it wouldn't be excluded.

Sport bikes and Harleys are the major bike market and therefore STOLEN.

If you find your lack of understanding why things get stolen as "Special Olympics" fine, no argument here.

Hmmm... I give. This IS a lot like participating in the Special Olympics, isn't it ?

Not sport bike riders fault wether they can ride or not that some people see a chance to make money and steal bikes and sell them stolen goods without their knowledge.

If the FJR market wasn't so small I would bet it wouldn't be excluded.

Sport bikes and Harleys are the major bike market and therefore STOLEN.

If you find your lack of understanding why things get stolen as "Special Olympics" fine, no argument here.

I will go one step more and say it doesn't have to be repair damage at all for the stolen market.

I have many aftermarket upgraded parts on my bike. From the manufacturer of these parts they are very expensive. If I can find a deal of someone getting rid of them cheap I would take it. Just like you guys on here buying used PCIII, Helibars, windshields etc.

Always a market for thieves. Chrome on Harleys is another place that legite hard working Harley owners will want to make a deal and get stuff cheaper. Thieves give them a way and most don't even know it was a stolen piece...

 

[fjrchooser]

Sparky, sometimes a ****** just can't help himself so here I go again. The Goldwing market is pretty healthy , yet you don't hear about them being a major theft item for replacement parts. Difference ? Demographics, riding style and skill, maturity.

Only in certain markets does the propensity for idiots grow expotentially with membership.

 

[Groo]

Um, Sparky, you quote yourself within your same posts alot? :huh:

IMHO, sportbikes tend to appeal to younger riders, who tend to drive more agressively, and have more accidents. Is there much controversy over that statement??? :blink: Not like there's lots of FJRs in the stunting/Darwin videos that get posted here from time to time. Therefore, if you were a thief, sportbikes, and parts for sportbikes would be a more lucrative market for your goods (bigger market, more likely to need parts due to crashes, and chances are the owners of said bikes are going to be tight on cash, i.e. young).

Saying that doesn't mean that all people who want to pay less for a part on a forum like this one or another for sportbikes are blind to the possibility that the parts might be stolen... but I believe that there is a bigger market for parts for sportbikes which makes those bikes more attractive for thieves, which increases the odds any given part might be stolen. I think the odds of me coming across a "working lady" increase greatly if I'm walking in a red light district rather than a church social too....

I think the odds of the MCL risers I bought off here being stolen are probably slim and none. I think the odds of engine parts for a R1/GSXR/Busa being bought off a similar forum would probably be remote as well, but would be higher just on a statistical basis if nothing else.

My $0.02...

 

[sparky3008]

Um, Sparky, you quote yourself within your same posts alot? :huh:
IMHO, sportbikes tend to appeal to younger riders, who tend to drive more agressively, and have more accidents. Is there much controversy over that statement??? :blink: Not like there's lots of FJRs in the stunting/Darwin videos that get posted here from time to time. Therefore, if you were a thief, sportbikes, and parts for sportbikes would be a more lucrative market for your goods (bigger market, more likely to need parts due to crashes, and chances are the owners of said bikes are going to be tight on cash, i.e. young).

Saying that doesn't mean that all people who want to pay less for a part on a forum like this one or another for sportbikes are blind to the possibility that the parts might be stolen... but I believe that there is a bigger market for parts for sportbikes which makes those bikes more attractive for thieves, which increases the odds any given part might be stolen. I think the odds of me coming across a "working lady" increase greatly if I'm walking in a red light district rather than a church social too....

I think the odds of the MCL risers I bought off here being stolen are probably slim and none. I think the odds of engine parts for a R1/GSXR/Busa being bought off a similar forum would probably be remote as well, but would be higher just on a statistical basis if nothing else.

My $0.02...

Groo,

On one of the forums gixxer or gsxr there is actually a age thread. Amazingly enough there are a few 50 and 60 year olds. Most I see in the 30's. I would have to disagree that they are all aggressive. I would have to say I have been faster on the fjr than I have on my GSXR1000, while it handles awesome you are very exposed and you know you are doing 90mph.

Yes, I agree with your stolen parts statement but just because no one is going to steal MCL risers for an FJR doesn't mean it is the sport bike riders fault. It just means that thieves aren't stupid, they know where the market is and for the few of you fjr owners it is not his market.

Since you obviously heard my statement several times go back and read it again. My problem with fjrchooser is his accusing sport bike guys lack of skill being the reason why their is a market.

This statement I totally disagree with. If no sport bike was ever wrecked their would still be a market for after market parts that thieves can find on these bikes and sell, motors that get blown up and sell, rims that are $2000 and sell etc to someone wanting a deal.

https://www.gixxer.com/forums/poll.php?do=s...ults&pollid=220

Um, Sparky, you quote yourself within your same posts alot? :huh:

IMHO, sportbikes tend to appeal to younger riders, who tend to drive more agressively, and have more accidents. Is there much controversy over that statement??? :blink: Not like there's lots of FJRs in the stunting/Darwin videos that get posted here from time to time. Therefore, if you were a thief, sportbikes, and parts for sportbikes would be a more lucrative market for your goods (bigger market, more likely to need parts due to crashes, and chances are the owners of said bikes are going to be tight on cash, i.e. young).

Saying that doesn't mean that all people who want to pay less for a part on a forum like this one or another for sportbikes are blind to the possibility that the parts might be stolen... but I believe that there is a bigger market for parts for sportbikes which makes those bikes more attractive for thieves, which increases the odds any given part might be stolen. I think the odds of me coming across a "working lady" increase greatly if I'm walking in a red light district rather than a church social too....

I think the odds of the MCL risers I bought off here being stolen are probably slim and none. I think the odds of engine parts for a R1/GSXR/Busa being bought off a similar forum would probably be remote as well, but would be higher just on a statistical basis if nothing else.

My $0.02...

Groo,

On one of the forums gixxer or gsxr there is actually a age thread. Amazingly enough there are a few 50 and 60 year olds. Most I see in the 30's. I would have to disagree that they are all aggressive. I would have to say I have been faster on the fjr than I have on my GSXR1000, while it handles awesome you are very exposed and you know you are doing 90mph.

Yes, I agree with your stolen parts statement but just because no one is going to steal MCL risers for an FJR doesn't mean it is the sport bike riders fault. It just means that thieves aren't stupid, they know where the market is and for the few of you fjr owners it is not his market.

Since you obviously heard my statement several times go back and read it again. My problem with fjrchooser is his accusing sport bike guys lack of skill being the reason why their is a market.

This statement I totally disagree with. If no sport bike was ever wrecked their would still be a market for after market parts that thieves can find on these bikes and sell, motors that get blown up and sell, rims that are $2000 and sell etc to someone wanting a deal.

https://www.gixxer.com/forums/poll.php?do=s...ults&pollid=220

The quoting yourself within your own post thing is because instead of editing I hit reply and it sticks it in the same post. Sorry...

 

[Groo]

Better figure out that quote stuff, or Skooter will bring the heat down on ya....

My problem with fjrchooser is his accusing sport bike guys lack of skill being the reason why their is a market.

I agree that there would still be a market regardless. IMHO, it's just that the higher number of sportbike crashes (due to whatever reason, one of which is inexperience) exacerbates the situation.

I didn't say all sportbike riders are agressive, but I don't think I'm going out on a limb to say sportbike riders will drive more agressively (as a group) than sport-tourer riders. If you asked me which group tended to be more agressive riders, I'd say the sportbike riders. Kinda fits with the fact that they are more agressive in terms of performance (i.e. closer to racing bikes on the motorcycle spectrum than say a Sport-touring motorcycle).

 

[fjrchooser]

"My problem with fjrchooser is his accusing sport bike guys lack of skill being the reason why their is a market. " -Sparky 3008

Actually Sparky:

1) there's a market in stolen parts because some people don't care where they get them as long as the price is right.

Crashers aren't the crux of the problem either, it's the morally corrupt crashers (lots of them) and the morally corrupt racers (very few of them). And of course ALL the Harley guys.

p.s. Just kidding about ALL the Harley guys....

 

[sparky3008]

"My problem with fjrchooser is his accusing sport bike guys lack of skill being the reason why their is a market. " -Sparky 3008

Actually Sparky:

1) there's a market in stolen parts because some people don't care where they get them as long as the price is right.

Crashers aren't the crux of the problem either, it's the morally corrupt crashers (lots of them) and the morally corrupt racers (very few of them). And of course ALL the Harley guys.

p.s. Just kidding about ALL the Harley guys....

Whatever...

For the small percentage of you sport tourers I have read of a lot of wrecks, deaths, drops, bike ran into etc on this forum. I don't get where you think you guys are any different.

Don't even start to mention the amount of you guys that post 150+ mph on your fjr.

This from a group of guys that I know make dam good money and are older than the 20 something you speak of fjrchooser.

So go live in your own world as small as it is.

One more thing, many guys on this forum own sport bikes also and if they no longer once did. I will bet you they never once asked someone they bought their part from on ebay or a sport bike forum if it was stolen. If I walked up to them and offered a stolen part no I don't think they would buy it from me but I don't see them going out of their way to make sure it wasn't stolen. Sorry don't agree.

 

[Groo]

I like pie!

 

[sparky3008]

I like pie!

Cherry?

 

[Groo]

Actually I'm partial to Pecan... and Boston Cream.... (course Boston Cream is more like cake with filling... but I'm a rebel)... mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm B)

 

[pawtracks]

I like pie!

Me too

Now that I think about it, Hmmmm

Groo was this stolen?

It sure gets hot when I sit on it for 300 miles.

Boy has this thread gone to S%&t!

On the original topic my buddy is still waiting on his insurance company, hopefully he gets his check soon.

He is my tour guide of the San Diego area

 

[fjrchooser]

Pie be good. Especially HOT pie !

 

[sparky3008]

I like pie!

Me too

Now that I think about it, Hmmmm

Groo was this stolen?

It sure gets hot when I sit on it for 300 miles.

Boy has this thread gone to S%&t!

On the original topic my buddy is still waiting on his insurance company, hopefully he gets his check soon.

He is my tour guide of the San Diego area

Sorry man but I see guys all the time on gixxer and gsxr with their brand new 300 mile bikes stolen right out front of their house. Just makes me sick to have someone then say it is their fault because they bought too much bike or some crap. Thieves suck plain and simple... Plus I guess now that I own a sport bike I will need proof a part isn't stolen before buying. Sure was nice owning a fjr and knowing all the owners were good upstanding people and I didn't have to worry. Now I am part of a unmoral society no better than communists or Iraqi's, GREAT!

 

[Groo]

Now that I think about it, HmmmmGroo was this stolen?

It sure gets hot when I sit on it for 300 miles.

The Asian lady who sold it to me in that backalley assured me that she had hand picked the beads at her bead farm, sewn the cushion together while watching Wheel Of Fortune in the evenings, and was using the discounted amount I was paying her only for food for her 34.5 children and grandchildren. She hand wrote me a receipt, and certificate of authenticity, but my wife used them to clean up a spill at dinner the next night. :lol:

 

[Powerman]

Guy at work just got back his stolen GSXR, it was better than before. It has a custom paint job and new tires. Thief was doing wild stuff and got pulled, his tags were for a Harley. He had a receipt from the guy that changed the lock, and the painter on the bike?