T/B sync

Yamaha FJR Motorcycle Forum

Help Support Yamaha FJR Motorcycle Forum:

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.

dwilli

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 11, 2007
Messages
49
Reaction score
0
Location
Amarillo, TX
Did a second Throttle body Sync today at 4200 miles.

Morgan Carb Tune

100_0413.jpg


Before Tune

100_0416.jpg


After Tune

100_0418.jpg


This was as close as I could get them. Bike seems to run better.

 
Saved yourself a hundred bucks too. They were only off a tad to begin with but looks like you got them as close as possible. Tha first time I did mine I was afraid of losing one of them nipples but now I have developed a method for not losing one of them.

Your next project is to learn how to remove the front and rear tire, then remove the drive thingee and lube up them splines on tha drive shaft, ie., the one almost in line with your butt when you a sitting on tha bike.

Ain't that Morgan Carbtune a good device?

Bye

 
Yes, the Morgan Carb Tune works great, Looked all over for the Pro Motion but everyone was out of stock. The 1st Sync was at 600 miles so wanted to check and see how much it had changed. I did lose one of the wire clips so I just left them all off. The #2 clyinder is the only one that's hard to get to. I do all my own work on the bikes. I can't afford or trust the dealer to do it.

 
I wish you live in GA. I love to work on the bike, but I prefer to tag along with somebody on things I have never done before. Although, I am a fast learner even with things that I read, I will never forget something if I do it while learning it. I havent purchase the synch tool, but I have seen that is not that expensive. Anyway, for me is fun to do this kind of things if I have company.

BERDE

 
Last edited by a moderator:
I wish you live in GA. I love to work on the bike, but I prefer to tag along with somebody on things I have never done before. Although, I am a fast learner even with things that I read, I will never forget something if I do it while learning it. I havent purchase the synch tool, but I have seen that is not that expensive. Anyway, for me is fun to do this kind of things if I have company.
BERDE
+1

03HiYoSilver came over several weeks ago and helped with my TBS and some other stuff. Of course the one problem of having someone help you is the embarasment when they find something...umm...odd...with your bike. Like when we found that the previous owner had let the bike sit unused so much that a mouse had set up housekeeping in the air filter. Luckily the mouse was long gone and only a nut from his last meal there and the results of those meals were left. Still pretty nasty though. Gave me an excuse to get the K&N filter though!!

Oh...and just give me a yell if you want to get together for another "tech day". What part of town do you live in? I'm over on the west side just past Hiram.

Ray

 
Last edited by a moderator:
A little tip (or maybe not) with the vacuum nipple removal. You don't need to remove the little wire clip to remove the nipple (they will come off as one piece). Also to fascilitate the removal and subsequent re-installation of the nipples, use a smidgen of silicone grease on the nipple; they come on and off like 'butter'.

 
dwilli,

What, if I may ask, did you pay for and where did you buy the Morgan Carb Tune? I'll be lookin for one this winter and will be shopping for the best deal.

BTW: thanks for the write-up.

SPORT

 
Last edited by a moderator:
dwilli,
What, if I may ask, did you pay for and where did you buy the Morgan Carb Tune? I'll be lookin for one this winter and will be shopping for the best deal.

BTW: thanks for the write-up.

SPORT
Sport,

I been doing a search on this and it looks like this product is shipped directly from the UK for about $104 (depending on exchange rate). Here's the link:Morgan Carb tune

I also been researching Motion Pro Syncpro. The best I can fine is two places selling them for $89.99, in which they retail for $99.99 Here's www.mxmegastore.com

And another Bob's Cycle Supply

If anyone knows of a better price, please let us know. :)

Attn GA members: Count me in for a Tech day.

 
Chris D,

Thanks,

I too found a similar price directly overseas.

Here's a local connection that can be had for about $99

I too have seen Motion Pro.

Thanks for the links...

Sport

 
Who knew scholastic had FJR carb sync textbooks available? :dntknw: Sure beats my kids math book. :lol:

Did you move the PAIR stuff out of the way? I didn't my first time, what a complete pain in the butt.

 
I bought mine from CA sport touring last month. I haven't used it, maybe I'll give it a try today!

Herkypilot

 
edit: i like the idea of the morgan carbtune due to portability.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
dwilli,
What, if I may ask, did you pay for and where did you buy the Morgan Carb Tune? I'll be lookin for one this winter and will be shopping for the best deal.

BTW: thanks for the write-up.

SPORT
Haven't gotten the credit card statement yet so I'm not sure of the final cost. Should be around 110 bucks. The Pro Motion one's are starting to show up now. Got an email from Dennis Kirk a couple days after ordering the Morgan saying they had them in stock.

Well worth the time and effort to do the sync. The bike runs smoother now. Not sure if it was the the sync, the G2 or a combination of the two but really helped with the low speed throttle response.

 
Who knew scholastic had FJR carb sync textbooks available? :dntknw: Sure beats my kids math book. :lol:
Did you move the PAIR stuff out of the way? I didn't my first time, what a complete pain in the butt.
No it looked like way too much *hit to get out of the way. The reason for the lost wire clip. Just reached in with some needle nose and pulled the rubber caps off. Not really that big of a deal. The less stuff I take off, the less I have to put back on. And the less chance of screwing something up.

 
I just finished the TBS on my '07 with 7200 miles. I know it was supposed to have been done sooner, but I"ve been on the road with it. Other than being a learning experience, it was a waste of time. #1 was a bit off and now they are about the same as your after photo above. I also used a Morgan Carbtune. The only problem I had was after I put it all back together, my bike wouldn't start. I ran it through the self diagnostics and it was the throttle position sensor. I reset it and now the bike starts and runs fine. At least I learned how to use the diagnostics mode, so I guess that's a good thing. :)

 
Has anyone side-by-side compared the morgan with a liquid (mercury or manometer fluid) filled carb tool?
Morgan vs fluid manometer is pretty much an even match. Both will do a good job, individuals have some personal preferences that lead them to one choice or the other. I own both, when working at home I always reach for the Motion Pro, when going to someone's house to do a TBS with them I take the Morgan.

Compiled from some of my older posts:

I have both the Morgan and the Motion Pro carb sticks. Against all odds both actually read the same absolute vacuum levels! They even match cylinder to cylinder. Who'd a thunk. Brundog's experience differs, I dunno why.

The Morgan is easier to handle and you don't have to worry about column separation the way you do with mercury. The Toxic Tune™, err, Motion Pro actually has better scale resolution and should result in a more accurate synch.

Note that each heavy red line division on the Morgan is equal to one block on the Toxic Tune™

carb%20sticks%20sm.jpg


My Morgan's instructions say to adjust the tube length until the rods just slightly oscillate to prevent stiction. My Motion Pro instructions say to adjust tube length until pulsing stops. Morgan says: "There will always be a small amount of fluctuation and this is necessary for the gauges to work properly." Very lightly tapping the Morgan will cause the vacuum readings to change.

After time the mercury columns will want to separate, this is caused by mercury loss and/or the columns becoming contaminated. Contamination usually comes from rapid opening and closing the throttle. This can also cause mercury to be ingested into the engine. No harm to the engine; do you want to sniff the exhaust? :skull: The contamination thing may eventually catch up with the Morgan too, time will tell.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Ionbeam,

The only Motion Pro Carb sync you can buy now is the non-mercury version. Their current Syncpro doesn't have Mercury but it did almost triple in price (compared to old mercury model). :huh:

 
A little tip (or maybe not) with the vacuum nipple removal. You don't need to remove the little wire clip to remove the nipple (they will come off as one piece). Also to fascilitate the removal and subsequent re-installation of the nipples, use a smidgen of silicone grease on the nipple; they come on and off like 'butter'.
Good job there C&C...you were able to use the words "silicone", "nipples", and "butter" in the same sentence. :clapping: :clapping:

 

Latest posts

Top