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I'm in the midst of moving from Auburn (at 1,200') to ******* Pines (at almost 3,600'), and am deliriously happy (this year) that the dry weather has favored moving rather than skiing so deep into December. I don't even want to think about how hard it would have been to move that 750 lb. gun safe on Sunday with snow on the ground in ******* Pines. It can snow all it wants after January 1. :p

 
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I lived in ******* Pines for 11 years on Garnet Ct. Where are you?

Nice community if your kids don't need to go to school any more, and you have abandoned your social life. JMHO

Be sure to buy a 4WD and plow. You'll eventually need it.

 
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I lived in ******* Pines for 11 years on Garnet Ct. Where are you?
About 3 miles southwest of where Mormon Emigrant Trail tees into Sly Park Road -- just outside the Sierra Springs subdivision at about 3,560 feet (according to my GPS). So -- roughly 4 miles southwest and 200 to 300 feet lower than where you were.

Nice community if your kids don't need to go to school any more, and you have abandoned your social life. JMHO
I don't have any kids, and I have.

Be sure to buy a 4WD and plow. You'll eventually need it.
I have 6 vehicles. 3 are of the two wheel variety, as reflected in my signature. The other 3 are 4WD: 2 Subaru Outback wagons and a Ford F-250 4X4. The next door neighbor has a plow and Elizabeth has a snow blower (that I still need to do some maintenance work on).

After all the years living in Steamboat Springs and the Tahoe basin, I expect that the substantially lighter snowfall in ******* Pines will be an occasional nuisance,** but nothing in comparison to the heavy dumps of the years I lived in the lee of Alpine Meadows on the west shore. I've seen (and shoveled) 5 feet in an afternoon on more than one occasion. Moreover, the biggest issue with living above 6,000 feet is that the snowpack doesn't go away soon enough -- just when your sanity requires a shift to greenery and spring-like weather, mother nature dumps several feet on you during April and then spits sleet, cold rain and snow in May. It's almost a cabin fever emergency that drives you to get below 4 or 5,000 feet at nearly every opportunity -- where it's already spring.

Summers are too hot for me below about 3,000 feet here, and I've never liked urban or suburban living, with the traffic and the noise of too many people crammed together. From the age of 7 to 19, I lived on 2.25 acres. Until Sept. '06 when I moved into this condo, my years in the Sierra foothills have been spent living on 2 to 3 acre properties where I could walk outside (naked if I wished) to enjoy the open space, the air, the solitude, and the peaceful quiet of a more rural environment.

I'm going back to that at what is, to me, an ideal elevation. I still have my tools (including 4 Stihls, but excepting the Honda track drive snowblower) from maintaining previous properties, and enjoy heating primarily with wood, while NOT needing air conditioning in the summer. Outstanding motorcycle roads begin within a half mile of my driveway. Places to shoot and places to ride the dual sport are an easy 10 to 30 minutes away. Ummmm -- you know all that, but you prefer living where I don't. To each his own. B)

** And I expect Sly Park Road to be a real ***** when covered with ice and/or snow -- many Californians suck at driving in the snow, and there's a real lack of margin in the curves and inclines on that road and others nearby (where they don't have the snow removal budget of communities above 6,000 feet).

 
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******* was a great place to live at the time. We did the horse and livestock thing, and I really enjoyed living adjacent to hundreds of miles of National Forest roads and trails. My wife prefers being closer to civilization, and I've adapted.

Glad to hear you are up the hill. I go through there quite a bit. There is a significant difference in snowfall on that ridge above Jenkenson Lake compared to where you are. Enjoy and good luck Rich!

 
Glad to hear you are up the hill. I go through there quite a bit. There is a significant difference in snowfall on that ridge above Jenkenson Lake compared to where you are. Enjoy and good luck Rich!
Thanks, Tom. Looks like we may have to have you (and other FJR miscreants from the valley floor) up for coffee before some of next season's day rides through our Sierra motorcycling Mecca. As for riding out when there's a ride to be made at lower elevations and snow in my path -- I may need to buy a ramp and some tie downs to truck the bike down to dry pavement (after I fix the leak I have apparently developed in the F-250's radiator).

And yeah -- I've noticed a real difference between our location/elevation and up by where you were in terms of snow -- both last winter there, and the same in the I-80 corridor between 3,500 and 4,000 feet (Gold Run and Dutch Flat to Alta and Baxter). But as you know, it's a mixed blessing -- I usually come in off 50 at the Sly Park Road exit, so I'm driving down through the more snow prone area. The alternative of coming up from Pleasant Valley may have less snow, but the road has steeper sections with more severe curves -- great for summer motorcycling, but not so good for icy conditions and poor drivers getting into trouble.

Great ride report, BTW. I especially enjoyed the fairly comprehensive inclusion of ski resorts in it.

 
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I went skiing out there in march of 07. All it did was snow it snowed so much and so hard we couldnt see to ski but we tried. Only time I have been rescued off a chairlift with a rope but we got a free pass for it I was amazed how fast they unloaded it.Anyway nice report

 
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The next door neighbor has a plow and Elizabeth has a snow blower (that I still need to do some maintenance work on).
Sheeze, I just figured out where you used to live in Auburn about 3 or 4 years ago and now you are moving already? :huh:

Don't make me come up there to Pollack Pines late next spring and break a bottle of Merlot over that snow blower of Elizabeth's to christen it, after you finally get it to work. :rolleyes:

 
I was up that way last weekend as well. Must have missed you by a few hours..

Echo Summit

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A look at lake Tahoe, Hwy 50 in the shade a little wet..

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Lake Tahoe in afternoon glimmer..

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Sheeze, I just figured out where you used to live in Auburn about 3 or 4 years ago and now you are moving already? :huh:

Don't make me come up there to Pollack Pines late next spring and break a bottle of Merlot over that snow blower of Elizabeth's to christen it, after you finally get it to work. :rolleyes:
George -- this will be MUCH better for your lodging pleasure, not to mention that Elizabeth's cooking is orders of magnitude better than mine. Instead of sleeping on the floor with the cat, you'll have a very comfortable king size bed (and FOUR cats to sleep with). :p

But don't be wasting good merlot on a snow blower :angry2: -- we'll drink it on the back deck with a filtered view of the sunset over the Sacramento Valley instead (after a swim and/or taking turns plinking targets at 25 yards with the pellet gun).

 
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Sheeze, I just figured out where you used to live in Auburn about 3 or 4 years ago and now you are moving already? :huh:

Don't make me come up there to Pollack Pines late next spring and break a bottle of Merlot over that snow blower of Elizabeth's to christen it, after you finally get it to work. :rolleyes:
George -- this will be MUCH better for your lodging pleasure, not to mention that Elizabeth's cooking is orders of magnitude better than mine. Instead of sleeping on the floor with the cat, you'll have a very comfortable king size bed (and FOUR cats to sleep with). :p

But don't be wasting good merlot on a snow blower :angry2: -- we'll drink it on the back deck with a filtered view of the sunset over the Sacramento Valley instead (after a swim and/or taking turns plinking targets at 25 yards with the pellet gun).
If you weren't in the republic of Kailfornicator you could plink with real guns. :p

 
In ******* Pines I used to plink with a 12 ga shotgun and a 30 caliber scoped rifle. Mostly, "plinking" was done with a 22. It's actually not an incorporated area, and safe discharge of firearms is okay.

 
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In ******* Pines I used to plink with a 12 ga shotgun and a 30 caliber scoped rifle. Mostly, "plinking" was done with a 22. It's actually not an incorporated area, and safe discharge of firearms is okay.
Yeahbutt, . . . what you and I may agree is "safe discharge" may differ from what a complaining neighbor and sympathetic LEO may believe the statutes require. California Fish and Game Code Section 3004 says

3004. (a) It is unlawful for any person, other than the owner, person in possession of the premises, or a person having the express permission of the owner or person in possession of the premises, to hunt or to discharge while hunting, any firearm or other deadly weapon within 150 yards of any occupied dwelling house, residence, or other building or any barn or other outbuilding used in connection therewith. The 150-yard area is a "safety zone."
(b ) It is unlawful for any person to intentionally discharge any firearm or release any arrow or crossbow bolt over or across any public road or other established way open to the public in an unsafe and reckless manner.
I know subdivision (a) refers to discharge "while hunting", but something tells me that isn't going to get you off for any other kind of shooting. Since I'm in the middle of a move, I can't find my other sources to run this down more easily, but I'm pretty sure the 150 yard limit from neighboring houses without permission is an issue, even in unincorporated areas.

[Rant=ON] California gun laws may not be the most restrictive in the country, but they must be the most impenetrable, difficult to research conclusively, to synthesize and to understand. Most are in the Penal Code, others are elsewhere, like these in the Fish and Game Code. Laws should be written so that they're easy for us subjects to find and understand. [/Rant]

Here's a similar 150 yard limitation in the Code of Federal Regulations re: shooting on National Forest lands:

CFR § 261.10 Occupancy and use.
The following are prohibited:

(d) Discharging a firearm or any other implement capable of taking human life, causing injury, or damaging property as follows:

(1) In or within 150 yards of a residence, building, campsite, developed recreation site or occupied area, or

(2) Across or on a National Forest System road or a body of water adjacent thereto, or in any manner or place whereby any person or property is exposed to injury or damage as a result in such discharge.
 
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We were on acerage and could easily meet the 150 yard requirement. Also, we raised lifestock and could legally take coyotes, mountain lions, feral dogs and other predators. It didn't happen often, but I would occasionally fire the shotgun to move the coyotes off the property, and we lost some goats to the cougars.

 
Sheeze, I just figured out where you used to live in Auburn about 3 or 4 years ago and now you are moving already? :huh:

Don't make me come up there to Pollack Pines late next spring and break a bottle of Merlot over that snow blower of Elizabeth's to christen it, after you finally get it to work. :rolleyes:
George -- this will be MUCH better for your lodging pleasure, not to mention that Elizabeth's cooking is orders of magnitude better than mine. Instead of sleeping on the floor with the cat, you'll have a very comfortable king size bed (and FOUR cats to sleep with). :p

But don't be wasting good merlot on a snow blower :angry2: -- we'll drink it on the back deck with a filtered view of the sunset over the Sacramento Valley instead (after a swim and/or taking turns plinking targets at 25 yards with the pellet gun).
Tom, your report was "excellent" and saved me the cost $$$ of gifting my daughter with a trip to Heavenly Valley for her birthday this season. I have down graded the gift of a ski season to a glass bead torch, fuel & oxygen regulators, hoses, and some Moretti (COE 110) bead stock, so she can learn to make make small glass objects this Winter.

Rich, don't worry, we'd taste the Merlot first. The bottle is an inert mass until put into motion. :p

Lastly, I Luv to plink with a pellet gun. Got my own, which I use for gophers and ground squirrels. As far as heavy firepower goes, I may be carrying but most likely(?), I am well armed (and legged) and plan to stay that way. :D

 
Tom -- that must've been a hard place to give up. Elizabeth's response to your comments was "HA -- he obviously knows ******* Pines pretty well."

George -- we can definitely bust out the heavy firepower (up to .300 Win Mag and .44 Rem Mag), but we'll have to drive about 20 minutes, cuz I don't have the 150 yards on each side like Tom did.

 
Tom,

Thanks for the excellent RR! That was a trip down "memory lane" for me as I grew up in Carson City, went to college at the University of Nevada, Reno. I worked at Lake Tahoe State Park (Incline Village) in the summers, and worked part time at a ski shop in Carson during the winters. I skied most of the resorts you mentioned and had pics of in your report. I mostly "hung out" at Mt. Rose/Heavenly/Incline and Kirkwood.

I had to quit skiing in the 80's due to a bad knee and a job that required that I stay ambulatory! I finally got that knee fixed ten years ago, too bad the technology didn't exist in the 80's!

Anyway, thanks again and I'll have to visit that country again soon.

 
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I enjoyed reading this R/R.

Which GPS are you using and is it simply stuck in your tank bag? Or is that a tank mount?

 
I enjoyed reading this R/R.

Which GPS are you using and is it simply stuck in your tank bag? Or is that a tank mount?
I use aWyn-Pro RAM-bone mount and alternate between a Nuvi 765T, which is in this report, and a Streetpilot 2820. The mount keeps the GPS just below the level of the speedo/tach console from the rider's viewpoint, is solid, and does not turn with the steering.

Glad you guys liked the report. I meant to do another one today, but the crabs ran out. :eek:

 
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