Ten year ban for pulling a wheelie

[hotrod502]

Thanks, madmike... I'll try to remember to stay out of Fl. B)

 

[.paul]

The new law, as written, seems reasonable. I don't at all feel threatened by it.

You may not have a problem throwing your rights to the wind, but not everyone wants to do so as readily as you seem to be willing to. I'm not saying I ride wheels (I never have and I'm a chicken **** so I won't ) but I don't need/want the law breathing down my neck from the instant I wake up each day - more than it already is. It will be a sad day when I take off at a brisk pace and end up in jail, for what? I'm just saying it's a slippery slope - as the cliche goes."Wouldn't be prudent"

Remember, the arresting officer has the discretion of using the big stick for those "attitude problems" or flagrant violators. The guy with a Busa who inadvertently lifts on a empty road would not necessarily receive the same treatment.

I'm sorry, but BS. You can't honestly think a police officer is going to see a guy lifting on a sport bike and think "Well, it's an open road and he said it was an accident, so I'll let him go." There's no way that's going to happen, especially with the attitudes people have toward sport bikes.

 

[drew231506]

I love wheelies, love to see them in the streets and love to do them on my SV650. I think stunters are fine and enjoy watching that type of motorcycling. The things they can do are pretty amazing, just as racing, super moto, etc.

HOWEVER I think the real issue here is the 120mph, or perhaps the 120mph and the wheelie combined. That is unacceptable. ( but i love wheelies ;-) )

 

[Imp]

+1 on pauls post.

New laws don't solve problems they take away rights. The police can put up a road block down and get the reckles drivers with the existing laws.

 

[Bounce]

And how much easier will it be to enforce? If they can't get them, they can't get them. Period.

authorize "shoot on sight" orders for all stunting in traffic on public roads. that'll larn 'em.

 

[.paul]

authorize "shoot on sight" orders for all stunting in traffic on public roads. that'll larn 'em.

Slightly on the Draconian side, but I think it'll work ahaha!!

Imp, you're right. There are so many friggn laws in the books already it's really absurd! There is no need for more reactionary ******** laws.

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[tcfjr]

If they outlaw stunt bikes only outlaws will have stunt bikes. And uh, flipping license plate, hum....Skyway you home? PM. <><

See this post for details on an actual license plate flipper:

 

[Tbird]

Hell YEA!!! I'm good with that!

You guys are killing me with your paranoia...and your visions of a Utopia.

There's a ****-load of laws out there...most don't effect me cause I'm not into a lot of illegal activities.

Thus I don't worry about how many of them there are on the books. If you are on public roads pulling

wheelies...doing stoppies...trippling the speed limit...passing on shoulders...and splitting cars; as a citizen

sharing those roads I want your *** OFF a motorcycle for a long, long time!!! Road rights are dependent

upon following the rules in place to make it safer for everyone...like it or not. I have a big problem with

asshats endangering innocents, and giving other riders a bad name. So put up more laws against these

stupid stunts, it won't affect me...and don't try to tell me it will affect you. It seems kind of "chicken little"

to me.

And just because they are difficult to catch doesn't mean that something shouldn't be done about it for

the ones you do catch. I am guessing the current laws in Florida don't hand out a stiff enough penalty

for these blatantly reckless and selfish MC related activities OR don't address it at all. Otherwise they'd

simply work on current law. I've been advocating about the same for my area...where all the squids

play every weekend.

OBTW...I am big-time conservative in my political views...but believe it is a time to deliver a kick in the

***, to these A-holes, big enough to possibly deter the activity. And if it doesn't and they continue and

get caught we won't have to worry about them for a good long while.

The other article cited (about the ban on sport bikes) is a different story. There they are trying to ban

a bike...bad juju. In this case they are penalizing a dangerous illegal activity. A world of difference!

What's wrong with that?

Best solution of all would be if the Darwin thing just took care of it.

 

[.paul]

^^^ LOL

To those thing think these laws will make any difference: what kool-aid are you drinking?

Do you really think its going to deter the squidly asshats from doing stunts and driving triple digit speeds on public roads? How many of them do you think even HAVE motorcycle endorsements? How many of the bikes used are probably stolen? This proposed legislation is all the motivation in the world to run. So some guy gets banned from riding a bike legally, chances are he was riding illegally in the first place, so what? Once he gets out of the slam he'll just throw a leg over another bike. Same story, different day.

 

[madmike2]

You guys are killing me with your paranoia...and your visions of a Utopia.
And just because they are difficult to catch doesn't mean that something shouldn't be done about it for

the ones you do catch. I am guessing the current laws in Florida don't hand out a stiff enough penalty

for these blatantly reckless and selfish MC related activities OR don't address it at all. Otherwise they'd simply work on current law.

Something SHOULD be done! I think you may have provided an alternative view within your rant. A politician will want to write a NEW law to please the voter base in his constituency (for reelection???).

Rather than taking the "cheap" way out, he could or should be looking at ways to raise the penalty of existing laws (surely the action described could be included within the definition of "reckless driving" (Any LEO want to chime in here?) and within the amendment to an existing traffic law, they could increase or compound the actual penalty for say: Speeding, plus reckless (wheelstand), plus equipment violation, plus no endorsement (or any combination) would be impoundment. Loss of license would be a legal proceeding by the court for egregious offense.

I've been advocating about the same for my area...where all the squids play every weekend.
Best solution of all would be if the Darwin thing just took care of it.

Unfortunately evolutionary rules of morbidity aren't applied 100% of the time for stupidity. THAT is why we pay policemen, hire more of them and provide them with training, vehicles and equipment. In other words, put teeth in the existing laws and enforcement. Unfortunately, that isn't the "cheap" way out.

 

[odot]

God, this is getting political.

 

[madmike2]

Yes....it is. :huh: I wanted to get my answer in before Ignacio saw where the thread is going and locked it.

 

[exskibum]

Iggy must be asleep or buried at work. I think he routinely does a search for "liberal", "conservative", "Republican", "Democrat", "Clinton", "Bush", "Cheney", "GOP", "political" and "California".

Since the rant above contained "big-time conservative" and "political views", the only other likely explanation is that Iggy's on an *** freezing LD jaunt. Surely my list will do the trick, though -- even before I agree with madmike on the way to address the stunter ****** problem.

 

[FJR1300Mark]

I say go for it with as much stunting as they can handle - but it shouldn't be in traffic. and I don't appreciate any one car or bike that cuts too close in front or me.

Going through the toll both at 120 probably creates a pretty good rush.

I think the solution is better surved with technology than a law. Just install an automated stun gun that is triggered at the toll both when the vehicle runs the booth at over 100. It would provide some pretty good video - the person would loose his bike for a while - they probably wouldn't be riding at all for while so the roads would be safer.

To be fair it should be automated tire strips so cars can participate too.

 

[drew231506]

Did I mention I enjoy wheelies??

Im not sure why all stunters are asshats? What about giving these type of motorcyclists a place to do this off of public streets. Again I'm totally against the 120mph wheelie down a crowded public street. But i dont think doing a wheelie, or a stoppie, or a burnout makes someone an ******.

"I've been advocating about the same for my area...where all the squids

play every weekend."

Does this piss you off because they do it in your neighborhood?? Or just because they do it in general? Do you say the same about all of those damn X-gamers? And their "stupid" stunts? Again 120mph wheelie in traffic, not good, deserves what he gets. Doing wheelies with a friend on a back road or being a "stunter" doesnt deserve a 10 year ban. You should be advocating for a place where they can go to improve their skills legally away from traffic...but to you theyre all asshats.

Why not make a law against motorcycles in general if your goal is to make it "safer for everyone."

 

[madmike2]

Did I mention I enjoy wheelies??
Im not sure why all stunters are asshats? What about giving these type of motorcyclists a place to do this off of public streets. Again I'm totally against the 120mph wheelie down a crowded public street. But i dont think doing a wheelie, or a stoppie, or a burnout makes someone an ******.

I have a couple of customers who are stunt riders. You know the type, slider framework around the body, caved in gas tank, etc., etc. I give them my "take off" rear tires because they flat eat-up the rears. They DO NOT ride like that on the street. However, they do meet with others who have a like interest and also know where there are isolated parking lots where they can practice their "art form", usually once or twice a week.

Its those who ride like that on the street, in traffic or populated areas, who cause a panic by the general populace......rightfully so. I've seen them on the local highways around the Sacramento area. Their hooliganism makes it bad for all of us. THOSE are :******: 's! The non-biking citizenry doesn't know the difference between a CBR600 and an FJR1300. To the uninitiated, its plastic-wrapped and looks like a sport-bike, so we are all lumped into the same category.

 

[Ignacio]

Iggy must be asleep or buried at work. I think he routinely does a search for "liberal", "conservative", "Republican", "Democrat", "Clinton", "Bush", "Cheney", "GOP", "political" and "California".

Wrong!

political discussions SPECIFICALLY about pending motorcycle legislation, regulation, and laws are allowable.

So far, this topic has stayed exclusively on motorcycles....which has surpised me, but that's great! Keep it up!

Things usually go awry when somebody types the word "like" and then follows it with something totally unrelated to bikes to try and make some point or somebody rants about something unrelated.

.....and probably the truth is that people who type some of those words you put have a very hard time working them into a motorcycle discussion without keeping on topic.

However, keep it on motorcycles...and keep any newbie from coming in here and drifting off-topic and the thread will stay open.

Enjoy.

 

[wheatonFJR]

...Why not make a law against motorcycles buttheads driving mit cellphones in general if your goal is to make it "safer for everyone."

There...fixed. ...As it will be SAFER for us motorcyclists if they do.

 

[Tbird]

Hey Iggy...I am a newbie...sorry about a rant with only a handful of posts under my keyboard.

And sorry about the Po-litical terminology...I'll try to steer clear.

Drew...you're taking my comments out of context and boxing me in.

I never said or implied that all stunters are asshats...I said those doing it on public roads are. Those are

the ones that piss me off. Everytime it happens to one of my friends, family members, or co-workers

I get a healthy ration of crap about it, as if I'm guilty by association.

X-gamers don't belong in this discussion cause they do their amazing feats in controlled environments.

Again...I get a kick out of watching them. I very much admire those who can control a bike in those

ways...and wish I had those skills. Your right...even go ahead and knock yourself out on deserted

back roads for all I care. At least that shows some hint of responsibility for their actions. I , myself,

partake of excessive speed on Hwy 9 here on the U.S./Mexico border regularly. I can see 10 mi each

direction...no traffic. But I'm not endangering anything more than a crossing coyote, road runner, or rabbit.

This ain't nothing po-litical...it about public safety...and public perception. Y'all are always wadded up

worrying about MC bans...this activity is the fastest way there!!!

 

[Ignacio]

...Why not make a law against motorcycles buttheads driving mit cellphones in general if your goal is to make it "safer for everyone."

There...fixed. ...As it will be SAFER for us motorcyclists if they do.

Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner. Wheaton gets the thread closed. Tangental at best and exactly drfiting crap I'm talking about. :angry:

You want politics? Go hang out in The Dungeon at ST.N. Great place if you like that sort of thing.