tire mounting

[okmac]

I am in the process of mtg. my own tires for the first time. I purchased a Wikco tire changer which works well once you learn how to use it. I am stopped on my rear tire install. I cannot seem to set the second bead using the mtg tool. When I have about half of it in place it starts coming off the rim when I try to put the rest of the bead in place.

What do you use to hold the part of the tire in place , on the rim, while you are mtg. the rest of it ? As tight as it is getting I would like to hold the mounted part of the tire towards the center of the rim to give me a little more slack. I am thinking of buying some C clamps. Would they work.

Thanks ahead of time for the help.

Mac

 

[kaitsdad]

I am in the process of mtg. my own tires for the first time. I purchased a Wikco tire changer which works well once you learn how to use it. I am stopped on my rear tire install. I cannot seem to set the second bead using the mtg tool. When I have about half of it in place it starts coming off the rim when I try to put the rest of the bead in place.
What do you use to hold the part of the tire in place , on the rim, while you are mtg. the rest of it ? As tight as it is getting I would like to hold the mounted part of the tire towards the center of the rim to give me a little more slack. I am thinking of buying some C clamps. Would they work.

Thanks ahead of time for the help.

Mac

Okmac,

before you start to run your lever around the bead, take a piece of 1/2" x 1" x 8" (or so) wood - like a chunk of furring strip - and wedge it between the bead and the rim. This will hold the bead under the rim until you can get the whole thing in place.

Before I did my first change, I printed out this web page (Tahnks, Fred H.!!)

Then I went step by step. Obviously, there are some things that won't be quite the same - but it's still a very good 'manual' for the process.

Fred H Tire Change

Lots of lube, too, ya know. Ru-Glide is good stuff.

 

[Fencer]

no mar extra hands work great

is this what you are using?

It LOOKS like the $69 harbor freight changer which is a POS IMHO. If you paid the $500 the guy wants on ebay for the wikco. try to take it back and get the no mar for just a little more. with the lube and stuff it comes with prob a wash on price.

 

[okmac]

I am in the process of mtg. my own tires for the first time. I purchased a Wikco tire changer which works well once you learn how to use it. I am stopped on my rear tire install. I cannot seem to set the second bead using the mtg tool. When I have about half of it in place it starts coming off the rim when I try to put the rest of the bead in place.
What do you use to hold the part of the tire in place , on the rim, while you are mtg. the rest of it ? As tight as it is getting I would like to hold the mounted part of the tire towards the center of the rim to give me a little more slack. I am thinking of buying some C clamps. Would they work.

Thanks ahead of time for the help.

Mac

Okmac,

before you start to run your lever around the bead, take a piece of 1/2" x 1" x 8" (or so) wood - like a chunk of furring strip - and wedge it between the bead and the rim. This will hold the bead under the rim until you can get the whole thing in place.

Before I did my first change, I printed out this web page (Tahnks, Fred H.!!)

Then I went step by step. Obviously, there are some things that won't be quite the same - but it's still a very good 'manual' for the process.

Fred H Tire Change

Lots of lube, too, ya know. Ru-Glide is good stuff.

Thanks a bunch Kaitsdad, Those photo's of Fred H. is just what I need . I will get some 1/2x1" wood tomorrow morning . That is exactly the problem that I am having.

FJRFencer- Your are probably correct, I should have purchased a No-Mar tool but you dance with whom you brung. Thanks for the link however, I ordered 3 extra hands and a tire tool.

With this help I am sure that I will have the rear wheel mtd. tomorrow, then here comes the front wheel. I also plan on checking the drive splines for lube. I wonder what suprises await me there.

Mac

 

[Rickster]

Also try my favorite: MojoLever

I'd never change a tire without one.

 

[mdisher]

Yes, blood sweat and tears until you get the 'technique'...

Watch the vids on the no-mar website. It's all about keeping the bead in the middle to give you more room...

and as was said, you can't use too much lube

 

[tyronewildman]

And set the new tire out in the sun for a while. It really helps if it is hot!++on inserting the sticks to keep it in & another pair of hands helps. This rear tire is the hardest one I've done...Later,,,De

 

[okmac]

Just an update. I still could not get the second bead to set on the rear wheel. AGhhhhhhhhhh. I used the wood idea to hold the tire in the valley of the rim but when things got tight the wood would pop out.

A riding buddy came over and with a couple more hands the tire went on with no problem. I did put a cheater bar on the mounting bar and used my body to rotate it while I held a tire tool to keep the tire from de-mounting. My buddy kept part of the tire in the valley of the rim using the wood spacers.

But, all was not a waste, I pulled the drive shaft and lubed the splines, they were almost dry. I could not believe the axel, it was starting to rust where the wheel bearing contact it so I cleaned and lubed it. I cleaned and lubed the mating parts of the pumpkin. I also cleaned and waxed the insides of the mufflers that are hard to reach.

So , tomorrow I will do my first balancing with my Mark Parnes balancer and re-mt. the rear wheel. Then I wonder what fun I will have with the front wheel.

Mac

 

[Checkswrecks]

Sorry to see this four days later. In taking the tire off, I put three c-clamps around the far-side of the rim, which keeps the bead first broken in the center of the wheel. Use some thin plastic like cut-up milk-jug as pads to keep from marking the rim. Simple.

You wrote "set" so I'm wondering if you mean in putting on the new tire, you can't get both sides of the new tire to stay in contact with the rims. Get it close, apply air pressure and the beads will normally pop right on. Occasionally, I need to put a rope around the periphery of the tire and use a stick tourniquette-style, to force the sides of the tire out to near the beads.

Bob

 

[okmac]

Sorry to see this four days later. In taking the tire off, I put three c-clamps around the far-side of the rim, which keeps the bead first broken in the center of the wheel. Use some thin plastic like cut-up milk-jug as pads to keep from marking the rim. Simple.You wrote "set" so I'm wondering if you mean in putting on the new tire, you can't get both sides of the new tire to stay in contact with the rims. Get it close, apply air pressure and the beads will normally pop right on. Occasionally, I need to put a rope around the periphery of the tire and use a stick tourniquette-style, to force the sides of the tire out to near the beads.

Bob

No problem with getting the bead to hold on the rim, popped right on when I applied air. My problem , before I got help was in keeping the bead in the valley of the wheel while I tried to get the rest of the bead over the rim. I got three clamps from No Marr so now that problem is solved.

The first time is quite an experience, I just wish I could have watched someone first. But at least now I doubt that I will forget how I did it.

Thanks for the advice.

Mac

 

[ian]

I bought a changer from HF when they were on sale (I also bought a air/hydrolic lift using a 25% off coupon in addition to the $100 off sale price). I hated the lever that came with the changer so bought a Mojo lever. The end that is used to take a tire off works great but I have problems with the end to remount a new tire. The white nylon insert keeps turning. For me, the original HF lever works better to get the bead back on the rim. As mentioned, blocks of some sort to keep the opposite bead in the center of the rim are necessary. As with many things, lubrication is essential. Ian, Iowa

 

[DonRed7]

To bead a tire quickly and Dangerously,....all you need is 1) a can of electronic/tuner cleaner(Very low flash point, Hee,...Hee) 2)propane torch (which helps you stand a bit further away as you ignite the spray inside the rim) 3) GOOD JUDGMENT,...Pyro Degree,...Helmet.....4)Start with small flashes untill you understand the concept

Don't try this,......

-Don

 

[David Morrow]

To keep the bead in the valley while trying to squeeze the other side on, has anyone ever though about using a pair of those big, wide Vice Grips that welders use ? I'm not sure if you can get them big enough for the rear tire, but I think you could for the front. Just don't tighten them down too much.