TWN's Poll

[tripletango]

This is a fun forum, full of sharp people that for the most part are dam good riders. I ain't that bad but welcome the added safety these gismos bring on a very fast sport touring machines like our FJRs For the most part when touring one is very relaxed but alert. However it is not as if you are 100% geared into the bike like you are at track days or blazing through the twisties at 10 10ths

Sometimes just cruising along with throttlemeister set, resting my throttle hand after 10 hours on the bike. Shifting around on the saddle or what ever else takes your mind off being totally on the ball. Guarantee I am happy that I can hammer the rear brake and get the thing to start stopping safely because of Bambi or what ever else can cause one to get blind sided by something unexpected.

Maybe I am just human!

 

[Knifemaker]

Sometimes just cruising along with throttlemeister set, resting my throttle hand after 10 hours on the bike. Shifting around on the saddle or what ever else takes your mind off being totally on the ball.

I agree here. The problem as I see it here..is we have two groups..one that wants the FJR to be more of a "sport" bike and one that likes the "touring" aspect more.

Although one should be on their toes every second they are riding, we are as you say, human. I picked the FJR not because it did one thing extremely well, but that it does many things fairly well. The whole ST concept is of course a comprimise. Some want their cake and to eat it too..

The fact that Yamaha has pushed the FJR abit more into the "Touring" side of that S/T slash, will of course be welcomed by many riders and foo fooed by others.

That's the direction Yamaha has decided to go and that's it, so deal with it.

I for one welcome the changes they have made and am absolutely dying here waiting for my 2006A...

KM

 

[tripletango]

Sometimes just cruising along with throttlemeister set, resting my throttle hand after 10 hours on the bike.  Shifting around on the saddle or what ever else takes your mind off being totally on the ball.

I agree here. The problem as I see it here..is we have two groups..one that wants the FJR to be more of a "sport" bike and one that likes the "touring" aspect more.

Although one should be on their toes every second they are riding, we are as you say, human. I picked the FJR not because it did one thing extremely well, but that it does many things fairly well. The whole ST concept is of course a comprimise. Some want their cake and to eat it too..

The fact that Yamaha has pushed the FJR abit more into the "Touring" side of that S/T slash, will of course be welcomed by many riders and foo fooed by others.

That's the direction Yamaha has decided to go and that's it, so deal with it.

I for one welcome the changes they have made and am absolutely dying here waiting for my 2006A...

KM

True. Got to admit that long before I bought an FJR I knew that there was not a bike out there that could do it all. For sport touring the FJR takes the biscuit. The new AE makes turning the miles very easy and that's why I am buying it.

Sorry to be I I Iing it all the time! But that's strewth as they say down under.

 

[panthercity]

Sorry to be I I Iing it all the time! But that's strewth as they say down under.

Until you reach a point where you are buying bikes for others, the I I Iing is the only plan that make ssense.

 

[twowheelnut]

O-Tay! My video is posted in Images for those of you non-believing, heathen neanderthals... :****:

 

[red2kcbr]

No linked brakes for me. I'm a front and rear brake user, every time, as conditions warrant.

The linked brakes on the '06 would be a deal-breaker for me. I like my '05 (non-ABS) just like it is.

Have I tucked the front before? Yep, in the wet, in Germany, at night. My fault? Of course. Did I learn from it? I hope so.

Do I practice my swerve, my emergency stop? Yes, I do. Do I look before proceeding though a green light? Hell, yes. I saw FOUR eighteen-wheelers traveling in a group today, and the last TWO of those *******s ran the red light. The first one got through under green, the second was yellow, the third was full red, and the last one, the one that really pissed me off, was so red it almost had time to go back to green.

Torch is right. The best processor ever devised operates the controls. At least on my bike. You have to pay attention to what you're doing. Which is the biggest problem with American car drivers. They don't treat driving as the deadly serious task that it is, so you have everything from putting on makeup to talking on the phone to shaving to reading the paper while driving. I've seen EVERY ONE of those activities being done by a car DRIVER. Not the passenger, the driver.

So, to get back on topic: I could live with ABS, maybe, if the trade-offs were reasonable. But never will I have a bike with linked brakes.

 

[Centerline]

Whoops, I have shaved a time or two while driving. But I don't talk on the phone at the same time.

 

[OrangevaleFJR]

All I have to say is ever since I started in on this forum, TWN has been nothing but the most unfair cheater I have ever known, heard of, or communicated with. NO FAIR is right, it has to be right if TWN devised it!**

**just kidding

 

[afterburn]

ABS' true value for the majority of riders, the majority of the time is that you can brake w/o thinking. Comes in handy at the end of a long day, when the twilight limits your view and the road is nasty with either man-made or nature's own mess.

If you practice threshold breaking, you'll do it automatically when the situation calls for it. That's known as taking responsibility for your life and choices.

I already know what I do in a panic situation.I haved practiced it for years and when the situation comes up, do what I practice.

I have used it. Practice, muscle memory, etc.

3 quotes, and all equal BS.

Plain and simple. ABS is for PANIC situations. Any situation that allows you to think and/or apply training is NOT a panic situation. A panic situation will just leave you grabbing a handful of whatever you are holding on at that moment.

However! Training does allow you to move that treshold between controlled reaction and panic reaction away from you to enable you to correctly respond to an emergency situation. A well trained person will be able to produce a controlled response to a situation where an untrained person will panic. As long as there is no panic, there is no need for ABS. (note the difference in this paragraph between panic situation and emergency situation!)

However 2! Nobody, and I mean nobody is free of panic reaction. No matter how often and how well you train, somewhere out there is a situation in which even the fastest reflexes and best trained person will enter a panic response. When you do, ABS might just be able to save your ***. Thinking you can outbrake or do better than ABS in a panic situation is stupid and one day, will be painful.

 

[panthercity]

3 quotes, and all equal BS.

Oh reallY Thanks for the enlightenment ow wise one...

 

[FJRottie]

Oh reallY Thanks for the enlightenment ow wise one...

X 10

 

[Powerman]

We had a rousing 06 linked brake talk at the DC Bike show. Most of the older guys (me) seemed to hate them. The Yamaha tech confirmed what tripletango said about being able to use some rear without any front being applied for you. I don't know how to quantify what the max pressure input to the rear before the front is activated actually is, we will see.

 

[Bluebullet]

I'm not a superlatively skilled rider and my abs has growled under my hand a few times when I wasen't expecting it, for this I am thankfull. I always use front and rear together even in a panic usually too much rear and it sets off the abs or slides. I don't think linked would help me I still be mashing them both hard.