Two DFW teens killed in overnight crash

[Fergi]

Two 18 year olds were killed when both crashed on an overhead ramp on SH 183 in Dallas.

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EDIT:

Found this on an injury lawyer blog trying to show how dangerous motorcycles are. It just happen last nignt so most of the details are still unknown, apparently when one of the riders hit a wall, the other came up behind him and both were flung off the freeway.

This is a quote from the blog:

"Were they racing? Were they wearing helmets? Helmets might not have even mattered if they were racing. When I first heard the story, initially I thought of helmets and then I thought of racing, but my next thought was: what kind of bikes were they on—maybe one of those sport bikes?

Many riders complain that roads are dangerous because of other motorists. This case shows a wreck that was probably not caused by other cars or trucks, but by a combination of too much speed and the vulnerability that goes with riding a motorcycle on an interstate highway. When the boys hit the wall, they flew off their bikes and fell to their death. If they had been encased in a car, the result might have not been deadly. Either way, this unfortunate story just brings to light how dangerous motorcycle-riding can be."

 

[Bounce]

Not much info. Not sure why it was even posted unless someone here knew them.

 

[ionbeam]

Two 18 year olds were killed when both crashed on an overhead ramp on SH 183 in Dallas.
Found this on an injury lawyer blog trying to show how dangerous motorcycles are...what kind of bikes were they on—maybe one of those sport bikes?...the vulnerability that goes with riding a motorcycle on an interstate highway...If they had been encased in a car, the result might have not been deadly...just brings to light how dangerous motorcycle-riding can be."

Sounds to me like someone has an ax to grind.

 

[ShawnKing]

Found this on an injury lawyer blog trying to show how dangerous motorcycles are.

Got a URL for that blog?

 

[ShawnKing]

"just brings to light how dangerous motorcycle-riding can be."

Sounds to me like someone has an ax to grind.

Why assume that? It's true - motorcycle-riding can be dangerous.

 

[cougar8000]

Many riders complain that roads are dangerous because of other motorists. This case shows a wreck that was probably not caused by other cars or trucks, but by a combination of too much speed and the vulnerability that goes with riding a motorcycle on an interstate highway. When the boys hit the wall, they flew off their bikes and fell to their death. If they had been encased in a car, the result might have not been deadly. Either way, this unfortunate story just brings to light how dangerous motorcycle-riding can be."

Sounds right to me.

 

[mbottoms]

Story broke on the local morning news.

Unfortunately, there hasn't been much info passed along.

Based on the morning news, it would appear that they were riding at high speed and the first hit the wall and somehow the second ran into the first and they both went over the rail.

Not positive, but I believe that there have been other accidents on that same ramp.

 

[GunMD]

It's true - motorcycle-riding can be dangerous.

So can posting on a Friday.

 

[Silver Penguin]

Many riders complain that roads are dangerous because of other motorists. This case shows a wreck that was probably not caused by other cars or trucks, but by a combination of too much speed and the vulnerability that goes with riding a motorcycle on an interstate highway. When the boys hit the wall, they flew off their bikes and fell to their death. If they had been encased in a car, the result might have not been deadly. Either way, this unfortunate story just brings to light how dangerous motorcycle-riding can be."

From the little information that is known, one might assume that this tragedy was caused by disproportionate amounts of testosterone and experience. The blogger quotes the victims as being 'boys'. If they are not old enough to have known better, why on earth were they riding powerful motorcycles? Where did they get the $$ to purchase them? Usually, finances will limit young riders to something modest then they can build experience before progressing to a bigger bike.

"Roads are dangerous because......." I call BS here. Roads are inanimate objects that do not pose a danger to anyone. They just kinda sit there and do their road-like thing. The danger comes from road-users who are not playing by the rules, for whatever reason.

"If they had been encased in a car......" they might have fallen onto someone below and hurt them too.

Did the blogger stop to consider that the first rider MIGHT have been going at what seemed to be a reasonable speed, but then hit a patch of oil?

Too many unknowns here to be able to make any kind of judgment, other than the fact that some people are ant-motorcycle. Period.

Jill

 

[Fergi]

Found this on an injury lawyer blog trying to show how dangerous motorcycles are.

Got a URL for that blog?

Here's the blog

click here

 

[fjrchik]

Many riders complain that roads are dangerous because of other motorists. This case shows a wreck that was probably not caused by other cars or trucks, but by a combination of too much speed and the vulnerability that goes with riding a motorcycle on an interstate highway. When the boys hit the wall, they flew off their bikes and fell to their death. If they had been encased in a car, the result might have not been deadly. Either way, this unfortunate story just brings to light how dangerous motorcycle-riding can be."

From the little information that is known, one might assume that this tragedy was caused by disproportionate amounts of testosterone and experience. The blogger quotes the victims as being 'boys'. If they are not old enough to have known better, why on earth were they riding powerful motorcycles? Where did they get the $ to purchase them? Usually, finances will limit young riders to something modest then they can build experience before progressing to a bigger bike.

Its called Gen Y, the Entitled Generation.

At my last job there was one of these guys there. 18, fresh outta school and got himself a Honda CBR600 something. He just had to have it despite all 5 of us riders in the office telling him what will happen. He crashed within 2 months. Out late on a Sunday night screwin around with a buddy. He's lucky to be alive and hopefully he learned something.

There are a lot of young sportbikers here in DFW.

 

[cougar8000]

Jill, did you read the whole paragraph? I did not see anything in there anti-motorcycling. No where did they talk about road itself.

As far as money. Hell, where I live some 17 year old have more then I do. There is a kid next door that is 17 has a friend come by driving a 60k car and talking about getting a GSXR1000 for his first bike. After talking to a kid a bit more I realized that nothing I say will change him. parents failed to do their duty dozen years ago.

 

[cougar8000]

After reading that BLOG just a bit I think this lawyer might actually be pro motorcycles

 

[Bounce]

Where did they get the $$ to purchase them? Usually, finances will limit young riders to something modest then they can build experience before progressing to a bigger bike.

they saved up the fees they earned from removing spark plug boots orally?

 

[BugzyMacCode]

That ramp's part of my commute and I hate it. I ride it when cars are throwing out anchors mostly, but I do think about that exit for miles ahead. It's a two lane exit (the freeway ends although signs say it turns into a tollroad there) that can be taken at pretty high speed. It is complete with concrete wall. 161 encourages high speed as it's long and straight and flat and boring and you just got off of of the tollway where you pay to speed! (right?) I think they just weren't paying attention.

Now I have yet another reason to make sure I have it together at that exit.

Condolences to the family. It's a sad story.

 

[weekend rider]

I hope everyone gets it right, motorcycle riding is not dangerous or un safe.

The only thing that makes riding a motorcyle unsafe is the rider and his/her actons

The only thing unsafe about a cager is the driver again and hi/her actions

Why does everyone keep on blaming the motorcycle for the problem? :butcher:

 

[Leartech]

Sad enough, but................

Not sure about the blog, but an lawyer wrote it?

According to what I read, they were both 18, best buds, one had owned his bike for four months, one for about two weeks. They were both 600 sport bikes. The Father of one states his son was trained and a very good rider. I feel sorry for the family.

When my ex was going to help her youngest son buy a bike, he was pushing for a 600 and when I heard, I went over and started the push for something less.

Ok, they blew a turn, the second followed the first to the end. They had helmets per the news, but they fell roughly 34 feet after going over the wall. That is the first thing I noticed when riding the overpasses is that wall is just tall enough to keep my bike on the road, but toss me right off.

Two families losing their sons is what makes it sad, but I wonder how many 18 year old boys out there really have it together between the ears to properly handle a 600 class sport bike. I haven't met one yet....................

Bryan

 

[twistedcricket]

A ) a blog by an "Injury Lawyer" about a wreck? Shocker (notice the other stories he has shared his OPINION on)

B ) had they not fallen, would they have survived? Would a car have ensured their survival going off an overpass?

So the fall (or the sudden impact with the ground below) actually caused their deaths? They could have died walking drunk along a train trestle and fallen off. Or while riding their bicycles and fell off a bridge/overpass.....

Tragic accident.

 

[kiteman11]

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