Unusual alarm switch

[ponyfool]

My Talon alarm has a lead that will instantly sound the alarm if it is grounded.

Since the battery on this bike is so vulnerable, I want to hook up switches to the screws that allow access to the battery so that if any of them are removed while the alarm is armed, it will instantly sound, thus giving an indication before the potential perpetrator has disconnected the battery.

Any ideas what would work in this situation?

I'm sure I could make something, and likely will there isn't something like this already.

My first thought was to put a simple reed switch on the panel itself, but I thought, by the time the panel is removed, it's too late. That's why I want one for each of the screws that would allow access. This way, the bad guy isn't too committed when the alarm sounds and would hopefully skit addle.

 

[abarron576]

How about just replacing one of the two plastic push-pins on side wide a self tapping screw. While not an alarm, it should drive the would be thief nuts and hopefully over to someone elses ride.

 

[ELP_JC]

Where are you planning to travel???

Seriously, you'd need a 2nd battery to power the siren after disconnecting the battery, plus the capability of such thing on your control unit. It'd be much easier to install a perimeter sensor (they warn 'intruders' who get too close to your bike, and alarm goes off within a foot or so) if you're that paranoid about getting your bike stolen.

Finally, the chances of a thief stealing your heavy and hard to sell FJR vs a sportbike are next to none IMO, so I wouldn't worry too much about it. But you still have to use common sense, obviously. Park in well lit areas, leave bars locked, and where bike is visible. Or just take the cage. Good luck.

JC

 

[Fencer]

Where are you planning to travel??? Seriously, you'd need a 2nd battery to power the siren after disconnecting the battery, plus the capability of such thing on your control unit. It'd be much easier to install a perimeter sensor (they warn 'intruders' who get too close to your bike, and alarm goes off within a foot or so) if you're that paranoid about getting your bike stolen.

Finally, the chances of a thief stealing your heavy and hard to sell FJR vs a sportbike are next to none IMO, so I wouldn't worry too much about it. But you still have to use common sense, obviously. Park in well lit areas, leave bars locked, and where bike is visible. Or just take the cage. Good luck.

JC

JC,

He's a Cop, I'm pretty sure he's good at finding the good anf bad areas to park.

He's pretty good at finding concrete curbs too :lol:

(sorry Pony)

But Pony,

In all honesty, If I were going to steel a bike, I'ld use a pick-up and worry about the alarm later (I could have the bike in the bed in less than 30 seconds). But thats just me.

 

[05fjrBluedevil]

:lol:

Hmm, i do not think you can have it in there in 30 seconds.....

i think that would be a cool thing for you to try at EOM....

 

[Fencer]

:lol:
Hmm, i do not think you can have it in there in 30 seconds.....

i think that would be a cool thing for you to try at EOM....

I have a big truck with a hydraulic lift gate

 

[jwilly]

:lol:
Hmm, i do not think you can have it in there in 30 seconds.....

i think that would be a cool thing for you to try at EOM....

Careful Mike, Fencer will be driving his freakin Dually GMC with a lift gate to EOM to prove you wrong!! :yahoo:

JW

 

[05fjrBluedevil]

:lol:
Hmm, i do not think you can have it in there in 30 seconds.....

i think that would be a cool thing for you to try at EOM....

Careful Mike, Fencer will be driving his freakin Dually GMC with a lift gate to EOM to prove you wrong!! :yahoo:

JW

I do not know, lots of diesel for that ride, but at I think he may just be able to do it, but 30 sec is still pretty tough, in the bed of the truck.... remember it does not count if it falls off the lift gate>>>>>

Stop watch running as soon as you touch the bike!, I guess if one was looking to take it that would not be a concern, back up cause bike to tumble on lift gate, throw quick straps on it and ride away while gate rising.....

Hope you all have fun up there Jason...

Still hoping for a late you can go from the better half, but not looking that way....

 

[Fencer]

:lol:
Hmm, i do not think you can have it in there in 30 seconds.....

i think that would be a cool thing for you to try at EOM....

Careful Mike, Fencer will be driving his freakin Dually GMC with a lift gate to EOM to prove you wrong!! :yahoo:

JW

I do not know, lots of diesel for that ride, but at I think he may just be able to do it, but 30 sec is still pretty tough, in the bed of the truck.... remember it does not count if it falls off the lift gate>>>>>

Stop watch running as soon as you touch the bike!, I guess if one was looking to take it that would not be a concern, back up cause bike to tumble on lift gate, throw quick straps on it and ride away while gate rising.....

#1 Its a Chevy but GMC is close enough.

#2 Its the largest liftgate Avail for a dually 1200lbs capacity with dual hydraulic rams :assassin:

#3 Big Truck and big lift gate = I'm overcompensating for my quiet mufflers

 

[ponyfool]

I live in the property crime, meth infected Mecca of the US. The mentality of the politicians and public in the Portland metro area is, "as long as no one is hurt" it just doesn't matter. As a result, there is no punishment for property crimes until you have racked up multiple convictions. Remember, this is a place where people arrested for burglary and car theft were given tickets to go to court...tickets!!

I am just trying to protect my investment. The FIRST thing any thief in this area does when trying to steal something from a vehicle is to disconnect the battery so the alarm doesn't sound. Tweakers are paranoid and a little bit like snakes. They are as afraid of getting caught as you are of being victimized by one.

My FJR is my primary mode of transportation. Thus, for the times she is parked at a theater, or in public, I'd like to have her as protected as possible, thus the idea of having the alarm sound before they actually get to the battery.

Am I being a bit paranoid myself? Sure, you bet ya. But, that's one of the downsides to being a cop.

 

[ionbeam]

There is also the prospect of an alarm system with a pager. The only thing you will need to be cautious about is range. This is a full featured alarm system with a pager. I'm not recommending this particular system for you, just posting it for the general population that may read this thread.



You can use a racing kill switch that utilizes a pin in the run switch on the handle bar -- when the pin is removed the ignition will be disabled. While it is fairly easy to defeat, first they have to discover why the ignition won't work and then find a pin. Delaying tactics.

 

[mike25]

:lol:
Hmm, i do not think you can have it in there in 30 seconds.....

i think that would be a cool thing for you to try at EOM....

Years ago, myself and 3 buddy's stole my Z-1. Pulled up in a van, hopped

out, threw the bike in the back. We were gone in under 20 seconds. Probably

could have been quicker in a pick-up.

If your really worried, use a large cable to something unmovable. that should

slow them down for about another 20 seconds.

 

[ionbeam]

Try II:

I don’t know what level of effort you are willing to go to for your alarm system. I hope I can explain this adequately… You would need a second smaller 12 volt battery to sustain your alarm system once the main battery power is interrupted. The alarm would be connected to main battery power and connected to a relay that would supply power when main battery power is cut.

I can get you a tiny relay who’s coil draws almost no current, it would be connected to a bigger relay that will be turned on by the small relay when a miscreant cuts or removes the battery wires.

The small relay coil will be connected directly to your battery, keeping it energized all the time. Relays can be purchased that have two sets of contacts, one that is Normally Open (NO) and another set that is Normally Closed (NC). NO and NC refer to the state of the contacts when there is no power to the coil. We would connect the backup alarm battery to the set of contacts that are NC which means that as long as there is power on the coil, the contacts would be open. As soon as main battery is cut the contacts will close sending power to the bigger relay capable of running a siren and the alarm system. The secondary power system for the alarm would stay energized until the secondary battery runs down or you switch it off.

Parts list: one 12 volt/2.8AH battery, one small low current relay and one power handling relay. The battery could be a Ni-Cad battery like ones used in portable drills. I would need details about your alarm system to size the battery properly.

In the end, nothing is better than a big ol' chain and Odot's tree :lol:

 

[RonBB]

Scott, I suggest that you do a search and checkout the Scorpio alarm system. I had one on my 05 and plan to reinstall it on my 07. The system has a perimeter alarm feature (along with other sensors) that is adjustible, it can detect folks when they are not even touching the bike. I am not associated in anyway with the manufacturer or sellers-just a satisfied customer. Best of luck. Ron