Updated! Opinions... 1st SS1k options.

[frankenfeejeer]

So I met a small group of guys at a Team Oregon Advanced Rider Training class that ride together and we got to talking about riding a SS1K together. Since I'm not the only guy in the planning stages, by all Oregon ride is out. They are preferring a more northerly route.

I was hoping to get some professional? opinions in regards to the route. It looks like there might me some issues with marking the "corners"? IDK-hoping to get advice.

Here is a link to the google maps route: https://goo.gl/maps/d26fL

Thanks in advance folks, this forum is amazing!!

 

[jwhite518]

You are right to be concerned with marking corners. That's a pretty complicated route and you need to stop quite a number of times to prove that was the actual route. I farted around a bit and decided you need receipts in Packwood, Ellensburg, Electric City, Tonasket, Colville, Spokane, and Lewiston. And then I gave up. It looks like a hell of a great ride, but a pain to document. Then too, the more people in the group, the longer each gas stop takes. So...if you want to do a SS1K with multiple, long gas stops, then go for it!

 

[Chuck35]

I'd think having a spottracker or the app "bubbler" would help to document the ride.

 

[frankenfeejeer]

I have a Spotwalla tracker, but it was my understanding that receipts were the main source of qualification. If Spot trackers are the only thing needed, thats easy!!

 

[Ignacio]

I have a Spotwalla tracker, but it was my understanding that receipts were the main source of qualification. If Spot trackers are the only thing needed, thats easy!!

You're understanding is right. GPS tracking information is considered supplementary, but not a substitute for receipts. Always follow the written IBA rules for IBA rides.

I agree with Jerry....you have LOTS of ambiguous corners on this route. Washington can be tough that way. For a group ride (I've organized several for Washington) try listing a specific set of obvious corner towns they need receipts from. E.g. Try Portland; Lewison, ID; Metaline Falls, WA; Tonasket, WA; Packwood, WA, and Portland. Then try and shorten the route (e.g. force it to go south from Randle) to see if you can make it go under 1000. If you can't...then the IBA will likely certify it. That particular one is probably in the 1100 range. It also has some pretty decent riding IMO.

And if they need gas elsewhere..that's fine, but you have to emphasize that you have AT LEAST get fuel in those specific towns. For example, Tri-Cities, Spokane, Tonasket, Yakima, Portland is a totally different thing and can easily be done under 1000.

The principal Ira shares is always true: It's up to you and the riders to demonstrate that you completed the ride.

 

[frankenfeejeer]

I have a Spotwalla tracker, but it was my understanding that receipts were the main source of qualification. If Spot trackers are the only thing needed, thats easy!!

You're understanding is right. GPS tracking information is considered supplementary, but not a substitute for receipts. Always follow the written IBA rules for IBA rides.

I agree with Jerry....you have LOTS of ambiguous corners on this route. Washington can be tough that way. For a group ride (I've organized several for Washington) try listing a specific set of obvious corner towns they need receipts from. E.g. Try Portland; Lewison, ID; Metaline Falls, WA; Tonasket, WA; Packwood, WA, and Portland. Then try and shorten the route (e.g. force it to go south from Randle) to see if you can make it go under 1000. If you can't...then the IBA will likely certify it. That particular one is probably in the 1100 range. It also has some pretty decent riding IMO.

And if they need gas elsewhere..that's fine, but you have to emphasize that you have AT LEAST get fuel in those specific towns. For example, Tri-Cities, Spokane, Tonasket, Yakima, Portland is a totally different thing and can easily be done under 1000.

The principal Ira shares is always true: It's up to you and the riders to demonstrate that you completed the ride.

Great advice, thanks. We are working on streamlining the route using your outline.

-Brian

 

[alchemy]

Why not do an in state SS1k either Oregon or Washington.

 

[escapefjrtist]

Great advice so far. Multiple riders will complicate the stops and really drag things out. Make sure you and the group has a plan before you leave and then stick to it. Have contingencies set for the "what if's" so nothing simple will derail the attempt.

Good luck!

--G

 

[frankenfeejeer]

Why not do an in state SS1k either Oregon or Washington.

I had an all instate route planned, but the other guys are wanting to ride some Eastern Washington roads. At least it's better than running to Boise and back!

 

[frankenfeejeer]

Great advice so far. Multiple riders will complicate the stops and really drag things out. Make sure you and the group has a plan before you leave and then stick to it. Have contingencies set for the "what if's" so nothing simple will derail the attempt.
Good luck!

--G

I think we may have made adjustments that will only require 3 fuel receipts in addition to the beginning and ending receipts. We will still have to discuss what to do in case something goes "no bueno".

-Brian

 

[frankenfeejeer]

Here is a new route with the same overall feel as the first one: https://goo.gl/maps/ocgrk

It appears we would only need receipts in Packwood, Tonasket, and Lewiston. Maybe one at I-5N and Hwy 12 would eliminate the need for Packwood and ensure no crazy offroad shortcut was taken.

Thoughts?\

Thanks!!

-Brian

 

[jwhite518]

Here is a new route with the same overall feel as the first one: https://goo.gl/maps/ocgrk
It appears we would only need receipts in Packwood, Tonasket, and Lewiston.

Your Google route has some "shaping points" in it. Take those out, so that you only have Portland, Tonasket, Lewiston, and Portland. Google maps and Basecamp suggest 1033/1035 miles. So you're good as far as passing the IBA guidelines. When you submit the paperwork, include the map of what you actually rode, because that will explain the mileage difference. Good job on making this work.

 

[Ignacio]

Here is a new route with the same overall feel as the first one: https://goo.gl/maps/ocgrk
It appears we would only need receipts in Packwood, Tonasket, and Lewiston. Maybe one at I-5N and Hwy 12 would eliminate the need for Packwood and ensure no crazy offroad shortcut was taken.

Thoughts?\

The smallest I can make it with some really obscure shortcuts in S&T is 1010 miles...even if the snow doesn't block you. I think your required receipt stops should pass muster with the IBA.

By the way, my FAVORITE road in Washington is 21 from Republic to Wilbur. You might consider it an option if you're starting the ride in the early morning...it's about the same length and probably about an extra 30 minutes of riding. I've offered it as an option with a group doing solo rides and said something like this, "So, after you fuel up at the required stop in Tonasket and heading east you'll go through Republic in the afternoon sometime about halfway through your ride. If you feel like you're going to be able to comfortably finish the ride...you can choose to take a right on 21 and ride through the Colville Indian Reservation and the Sanpoil River. It's a nice road with sweeping turns, a great view, and very few people. You're also treated to a ride on the only state ferry in Eastern Washington the FREE and brand new ferry, the Sanpoil. (Last run is 11:30 p.m.) After reaching Wilbur you can cut diagonally across any number of rural paved roads through the Palouse and join back up on the main route between Spokane and Colfax. Optional part is this.

 

[dave k]

Note to Iggy Keller ferry is not the only free ferry In eastern Wa check out Gifford too Inchelium took a couple years ago

 

[frankenfeejeer]

Here is a new route with the same overall feel as the first one: https://goo.gl/maps/ocgrk
It appears we would only need receipts in Packwood, Tonasket, and Lewiston. Maybe one at I-5N and Hwy 12 would eliminate the need for Packwood and ensure no crazy offroad shortcut was taken.

Thoughts?\

The smallest I can make it with some really obscure shortcuts in S&T is 1010 miles...even if the snow doesn't block you. I think your required receipt stops should pass muster with the IBA.

By the way, my FAVORITE road in Washington is 21 from Republic to Wilbur. You might consider it an option if you're starting the ride in the early morning...it's about the same length and probably about an extra 30 minutes of riding. I've offered it as an option with a group doing solo rides and said something like this, "So, after you fuel up at the required stop in Tonasket and heading east you'll go through Republic in the afternoon sometime about halfway through your ride. If you feel like you're going to be able to comfortably finish the ride...you can choose to take a right on 21 and ride through the Colville Indian Reservation and the Sanpoil River. It's a nice road with sweeping turns, a great view, and very few people. You're also treated to a ride on the only state ferry in Eastern Washington the FREE and brand new ferry, the Sanpoil. (Last run is 11:30 p.m.) After reaching Wilbur you can cut diagonally across any number of rural paved roads through the Palouse and join back up on the main route between Spokane and Colfax. Optional part is this.

I like the thought of taking that optional route, but Rice was on one of the guys' list for some reason. I guess we will figure it out when we get there!!

Thanks again for the input in regards to the IBA rules. I've always been a believer of measure twice, cut once.

-Brian

 

[Ignacio]

Note to Iggy Keller ferry is not the only free ferry In eastern Wa check out Gifford too Inchelium took a couple years ago

Note to dave k I didn't say only free ferry...I said deliberately only "state ferry in Eastern Washington". The Sanpoil is in WSDOT livery...the same organization that runs a slightly larger fleet west of the mountains.

The Inchelium, while FREE and a great ferry too, is not run or managed by the state. It's operated by the federally recognized Confederated Tribes of the Colville Reservation. It also has more limited hours and season....I think 8:30 p.m. or so which could be a schedule issue if they're starting in the morning from Portland.

 

[dave k]

Iggy I stand corrected sorry I'll shut up now

 

[alchemy]

damn near an instate Washington. Start in Vancouver and run WA14 instead of I-84....

 

[Ignacio]

damn near an instate Washington. Start in Vancouver and run WA14 instead of I-84....

Not enough. Lewiston is in Idaho. While you can use Clarkston across the river as an alternate....to stay entirely in Washington and still go north involves a primitive road that many riding street bikes probably are not up for....or a lot of backtracking.