valves shims CAM PHOTO!

[olsonm3915]

If shim adjustments are required, I would not trust the printed numbers anyway.

+1 to that. I've seen them marked incorrectly, whether that was due to someone grinding them, I don't know. But it's quite easy to measure them quickly using a caliper.

A caliper (digital or mechanical dial) is quicker than a micrometer, and plenty accurate enough for shim measurements of unmodified shims. If you want to check for thickness variation across the shim's diameter while lapping/grinding them (a practice I would definitely not recommend), then a micrometer would be necessary.

 

[Joe2Lmaker]

If shim adjustments are required, I would not trust the printed numbers anyway.

Now I can't find a damn metric micrometer!!! Don't I live in Canada????

Gotta calculator? I own an metric micrometer, but never think to use it.

My calculator on the other hand is getting worn out.

Lapping shim... metric micrometers... you guys are sure entertaining!

 

[RaYzerman19]

Matt, here is a cheap one at Busy Bee, or if you like, you can borrow my digital I got at Harbor Freight. BTW, I am due for a trip to Busy Bee. U pick, lemme know.

https://www.busybeetools.com/products/MICROMETER-METRIC%7B47%7DMILLIMETER.html

https://www.harborfreight.com/digital-micrometer-98485.html

 

[Zorlac]

"A caliper (digital or mechanical dial) is quicker than a micrometer, and plenty accurate enough for shim measurements of unmodified shims."

But less accurate, this is serious ****, we need some standards just to be on the safe side.

 

[jcyuhn]

The main thing I take away from this thread is that winters must be really long in Ontario. Don't you guys have some ice fishing to do?

 

[mattster31]

Matt, here is a cheap one at Busy Bee, or if you like, you can borrow my digital I got at Harbor Freight. BTW, I am due for a trip to Busy Bee. U pick, lemme know.

https://www.busybeetools.com/products/MICROMETER-METRIC%7B47%7DMILLIMETER.html

https://www.harborfreight.com/digital-micrometer-98485.html

Thanks for the link Ray. I just picked up a digital caliper from Crappy Tire(it was on sale). I just measured all of the shims and it is dead accurate. It said it had an accuracy within 0.02mm but like I said. It matches every number on the shims. It allowed me to measure the ones where I couldn't read the number. Looks like I will be needing a couple of 175's / 10+ 180's / and a couple of 185 shims.

The main thing I take away from this thread is that winters must be really long in Ontario. Don't you guys have some ice fishing to do?

Yes.............way too long. But if I went ice fishing I wouldn't be able work on the FJR.

 

[wheatonFJR]

Can you post a video of your FJR starting up for the first time in the spring? I would just like to "be there" when you get all the pieces back together. :clapping:

This is pretty impressive Mattster!

Even better have one of your buddies film you as you put the bike back together piece by piece. It could be a hit show...just like on cable! :lol:

 

[mattster31]

Can you post a video of your FJR starting up for the first time in the spring? I would just like to "be there" when you get all the pieces back together. :clapping:

This is pretty impressive Mattster!

Even better have one of your buddies film you as you put the bike back together piece by piece. It could be a hit show...just like on cable! :lol:

Ha ha that's a good one............I have done this before so I am not worried. As for making a re-assembly video, good idea. I will probably just post a few photos though........it's to cold to stay in the garage for more than an hour at a time

 

[wheatonFJR]

...it's to cold to stay in the garage for more than an hour at a time

I hear ya...and I'm shivering in the Chicago area. Don't even want to visit the garage to take fork tubes out, or swap out tires!! :huh:

 

[Fred W]

Even better have one of your buddies film you as you put the bike back together piece by piece. It could be a hit show...just like on cable! :lol:

Set up a camera in the corner that takes a picture every minute or so.

Then splice them together for a time lapse view of the reassembly!!

Or, how a bout a web cam?

 

[wheatonFJR]

Even better have one of your buddies film you as you put the bike back together piece by piece. It could be a hit show...just like on cable! :lol:

Set up a camera in the corner that takes a picture every minute or so.

Then splice them together for a time lapse view of the reassembly!!

Or, how a bout a web cam?

EXCELLENT IDEAS!! :yahoo: :yahoo:

 

[ionbeam]

Even better have one of your buddies film you as you put the bike back together piece by piece. It could be a hit show...just like on cable! :lol:

Set up a camera in the corner that takes a picture every minute or so.

Then splice them together for a time lapse view of the reassembly!!

Or, how a bout a web cam?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zlax5L8BVGc

 

[mattster31]

Cool video ionbeam!! mine won't be quite as "animated"

For those of you who might be interested in the process.

Here is my shim list......

Cylinder 1 2 3 4

Intake .125 - .125 .130 - .155 .150 - .150 .152 - .130

shim# 185 189 189 186 186 185 184 182

new

shim# 180 184 185 182 180 180 180 175

projected .175 - .175 .180 - .195 .21 - .20 .19 - .20

clearance

Exhaust .175 - .175 .175 - .175 .175 - .175 .175 - .160

shim# 189 186 190 191 190 191 189 190

new

shim# 185 180 186 186 185 186 185 185

projected

clearance .215 - .235 .215 - .225 .225 - .225 .215 - .21

Using some of the existing shims I will only need to order a total of 9

However, it would be nice to find a shim at 178 and another 182 to increase the intake cylinder#1 clearance, but it's still in spec.

Anyone out there have some laying around?? I will have quite a few 189-190 shims if anyone needs some........and so the list begins.

 

[chrisflock]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zlax5L8BVGc

My brother in law tried that with his Ninja 250. It sat all winter in my garage, and not 1 bolt installed itself.

A mouse did poop on his seat though, so I guess that's something.

 

[Fred W]

That video was awesome! :thumbsup:

Noah and his Dad spent way too much time on that one.

 

[John d]

The main thing I take away from this thread is that winters must be really long in Ontario. Don't you guys have some ice fishing to do?

I gave up. The fish are never around when I go looking!

 

[08FJR4ME]

If shim adjustments are required, I would not trust the printed numbers anyway.

Now I can't find a damn metric micrometer!!! Don't I live in Canada????

The other option is to convert the English numbers to metric.

Divide your reading by .03937

Example: .250 / .03937 = 6.35 mm

 

[Geezer]

The other option is to convert the English numbers to metric.

Divide you reading by .03937

Example: .250 / .03937 = 6.35 mm

That's what I did. Worked fine.

 

[Karmak]

Ha ha that's a good one............I have done this before so I am not worried. As for making a re-assembly video, good idea. I will probably just post a few photos though........it's to cold to stay in the garage for more than an hour at a time

>I spend the majority of my life in my garage-get a torpedo heater or one of those propane heaters that work off the same size bottle as a gas grill!

 

[Harald]

Here's a link to 141-Qty of a Variety of 9.48mm shims kit for $79.99 in case you need them by HotCams.

https://www.cyclebuy.com/shopping/hotcams/shimkits_948.htm

Nice to have some flexibility.

I've been thinking about buying that set. There's a Seller on Ebay that offers it for $71 shipped.