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Has anyone gone from riding a Honda VFR to riding an FJR? I currently own a 2000 VFR and have ordered an '06 FJR and plan to keep both but am just curious about other riders impressions of both bikes. I have bought the FJR without ever riding it and am relying on the reports that you guys have been giving as to its superiority............

 
Has anyone gone from riding a Honda VFR to riding an FJR?
Yes. You'll be surprised how much more upright you sit. It's a lot more comfortable. Throttle control is a lot more important. Cornering speeds are lower but the exit speeds won't let your riding buddies realize this.

Shaft drive rocks. Oil changes are easier. You still get a little gear whine from the rear end :p

You'll go 80 miles further on a tank of gas. You'll love the wind protection this time of year.

Put's out more watts, but not a lot more.

I wish the FJR had linked brakes. You'll need to unlearn your braking habits, well maybe not, the 06 has ABS. I kept locking up the rear on my non-ABS unit.

Glad I kept the VFR for Thursday nights with the guys.

Glad I have the FJR for long weekends.

 
My last VFR was a 1986 all white 700, great bike at the time.

Not in the same league as the FJR.

 
I have a VFR and FJR. The FJR is a real touringbike and the VFR a sportbike if you compare the 2. FJR more comfy, VFR better handling. Both are good at what they do. VFR: SPORT-touring, FJR: sport-TOURING

 
Sniff, sniff. :( Shoulda never sold it.

My ex: A bone stock '99.

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I gotta admit, if someone told me I had to choose between the FJR and my VFR, I'd have a real hard time...

 
I've swapped with my friend's VFR a few times. As relaxed as the VFR ergos are, the FJR is much more comfy. But you'll lose a bunch of ground clearance in turns. Oddly, I feel the VFR is more of troublesome at stop-and-go traffic (front end is nervous at slow speeds).

I almost bought a VFR instead of my FJR and I suspect I would have been okay for similar long rides, once I adapted to it. Now I feel more like a pretzel when I swap onto it.

 
The only problem that I can forsee once I get the FJR is that I can't use the "there isn't enough room on the bike for both of us, honey" excuse when I want to take off for a couple of days.....I ordered the bike in September and they said March delivery (of course they didn't say March of what year).

Thanks alot for the advice and replies guys. I really enjoy the website.

 
Having owned a few vfr's over the years and an owner of a vfr when I got my FJR I was planning to sell one of my vfr's. But old habits die hard. I still have both and enjoy them equally. The FJR is more comfortable, nicer bar position for me and has different kind of power that the viffer. In line fours and V fours are completely different as to when the power comes in. The only thing I have had to change is my trail braking into corners. With the linked brakes I used the rear to trail and with the FJR you are taking a chance of locking up the rear wheel using the rear brake. I now only trail brake on both bikes with the front. Takes somegetting used to but you have to do it that way or you will end up in a bad position approaching the corners. I love both bikes and would not trade them for the world.

 
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I really regret selling my 02 VFR. The FJR has its strong points, but so does the VFR. The VFR is quicker, but the FJR is faster. The FJR is more stable in the Cherohala sweepers, but the VFR attacks the Dragon better. The FJR is definitely better for long trips. If I had to choose it would have to be the R1. :D

 
Torque...the FJR has it, the VFR doesn't have much; so two different riding styles. The FJR is more comfy, altho my '92 VFR750F (unlike my '98 VFR 800) was remarkably comfy with a "plush" ride and excellent handling. Of the 2 VFRs I definately preferred the '92.

For l-o-n-g distance though the FJR is very capable. Enjoy! DFO :D

 
I have not ridden an FJR but it seems to be one REALLY nice bike. Been looking at it since it came to the US in 2003. With the changes in the 06 model it is certainly very tempting. Yet, I love my 2002 VFR. It's got Convertibars, higher screen, hard luggage, a sargent seat, mounted GPS, power sockets for heat and GPS (and air compressor for flats :angry: ), Throttlemeister and a few other items that make longer trips very enjoyable. After sitting on the FJR I believe I'm just as far up and back with the Convertibars on the VFR. A couple of summers ago I put in a 3350 mile 6-day 11-state trip and absolutly loved doing it on the VFR. The 1st day I rode 807 miles- but that was because I got "off route" due to not paying attention :rolleyes: . This is not an attempt to sell the VFR because if you've already got the FJR you've already got a winner. I'd love an FJR too. Actually, I'd probably pass on the FJR and get a Wing because I think the VFR and the FJR are not different enough to own both. I'd love to cover all 50 states in a summer and for that nothing beats the GondWing. As mentioned the VFR is a SPORT-tour while the FJR is a sport-TOUR bike. Both can straddle that sport-tour line very well but but one will always be better than the other at either sport or tour with enough money because of how each bike was developed (wheelbase, rake, trail, WEIGHT,...). Honestly a lot of the impressions made by riders on this specific question will be due to rider ability and rider tolerence. How long can you ride before you start to feel some level of discomfort. For me (now) it's quite a while. Rode 250+ miles with some fellow teachers yesterday and today thought I'd ride a few hundred more and visit some family. Done many solo 1800+ mile 3-day weekend trips with only slight discomfort. No discomfort what so ever when the the risers and seat were added. I love my bike- but then I love yours too. Each is a winner.

Take care,

VFRMike.

 
Anything with a chain is a PITA. No thanks, I'd rather be riding then messing with kerosene and chain lube every 600 miles.

 
Anything with a chain is a PITA. No thanks, I'd rather be riding then messing with kerosene and chain lube every 600 miles.
That is a familiar fairing in your avatar. You own one of these?

 
It's sitting in my house gathering dust. I tried to attach a photo but it looks like I do not have that posting option.

 
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Anything with a chain is a PITA.  No thanks, I'd rather be riding then messing with kerosene and chain lube every 600 miles.
I just replaced my stock chain and both sprockets and honestly it wasn't too bad but it is something I'd rather not have to worry about. Could have paid someone to do the job but prefer to do my own work. Certainly chain maintance is something I'd rather not have to mess with either- especially with the number of miles I put on the bike. Guess it's just something a person gets accustomed to.

VFRMike.

 
VFRMike

Cleaning the older model R1 chain is not too bad since most of the bottom links between the sprockets are exposed and easy to access. The large swingarm on the VFR looks like it blocks most of the area near the chain. As you said, it becomes routine after a while but still a headache.

 
It's sitting in my house gathering dust. I tried to attach a photo but it looks like I do not have that posting option.
You need to find a place to host your photos. BTW, you can see my '98 R1 at the top of my web site and in the Bike Photos section.

 
I own 2005 models of the VFR and FJR, and couldn't be happier about having that pairing.

Guys have posted good comparative of both different and similar. Some stand out to me in that I very much agree, disagree, or "maybe just see it differently."

Torque: Wow! The FJR has what I've always wanted. It doesn't require a different riding style, but rather allows one. That's valuable to me as a Sport Tourer who gets around the country to ride different and distinctly new roads. With the FJR, I can kind of "poke my head into a new corner", the Slow In part, and discovering what it's all about, when then prudent, make a quick shout down to the engine room to add more coal, and come flying out the other end of the corner. That's both great fun, and also allows High Average Speeds - a big part of the longer distance part of Sport Touring. And do that with lots more Margin in hand than on other, more "finiky" bikes.

I don't really find a Handling superiority to the VFR. It's only a small amount quicker (but not lighter) steering. It does show a heavier FJR weight needs to get warped around when making full left/right or right/left transitions, but the FJR bars make initiation of such easier, and the lesser lean angles "we" tend to use all together make the maneuvers sufficiently pleasant. Cornering speeds and lean angles of the VFR are, or can be, "faster/greater", but that's not "superior" in itself. The abilities of both Complete Packages to cover a given long piece of ground are very similar. I have the VFR because of how it feels doing that - different from the FJR, perhaps even better subjectively to some folks, but not superior in my mind.

The FJR posesses a Versatility the VFR does not: It's range of address, at widely desireable levels, is greater. I'm amazed at how swaping the stock '05 windshield for my +4+4 Cee Bailey screen seems to transform the bike way over toward "a comfortable touring bike". There are a broad range of riding positions available on the FJR, right on down to "forward, down, and inside", almost identical to what I can get into on the VFR. Yet, "almost as upright as a BMW RxxxxRT" is also available. In that position, with the big windshield, the amount of work to do a 600 mile day seems to me to be about 75% to 80% of that needed to ride that far on the Interstate on the VFR. On the other hand, a 450 mile day from Moab to Gunnison, at Sport Touring Pace, is also very likely to be less tiring than on the VFR. Only the shorter, more intense pace rides really, to any great degree I mean, favor the more compact Honda.

I find the VFR is also versatile. Set up with aftermarket parts, it can be a ferrocious cornering bike, very nearly at the level of current 750 weight sport bikes. The additional weight that keeps it from being an absolute top performer has been put to good use to provide comfort across riding distances only the most vigorous riders would ever engage their Sport Bikes in. Perhaps it is justa as broad in the situations it can address as the FJR - only it's range of scale is slid down the total spectrum toward Sporting.

As far as Touring goes, when Gold Wings get folded into consideration, I start heading for the door. Touring is not solely done on Interstates. US Highways, State highways, secondary and even terciary roads are all fair game -- and far more attractive than the "big roads" I end up spending far too much time on. Out There, a Gold Wing becomes a Tragic Impediment. One of the major motorcyle magazines once chose the R1150RT as "Best Touring Bike", stating generally that what it didn't have (as a Touring Bike) "we" didn't need. And I'd add to that, most of those things absent would very much get in the way for me. But, we all get to choose the "How" of our bikes. A Gold Wing certainly might please folks more than other lighter bikes for their own kind of Touring.

I continue to be so very happy to have both the VFR and FJR, perhaps most so because they are able to be warped further apart with accessories. Both of my bikes comfort as well as performance enhancements with the reverse emphasis on Sport-verus-Tour to even further strengthen what they are better at.

I do not imagine I'd be missing much were I to swicth to an FJR from a VFR, knowing as I do that we tend to "mellow" with age, and our interests expand and can be met with bikes that "reach further".

I also know I'd be thrilled by the shift to a VFR. I would be if I had not already been to that place in my riding history. Well, I have been, and I loved it. And I'm going to keep it too, right along with "moving on" to different and and bigger places an FJR seems to be able to take me.

Best wishes.

 
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