I am using a laminar lip and love it. bought it new and asked for plastic mounting screws (free) from the company, comes with the 3m quick lock plastic velcro too. I am 6' , 32" inseam and 250lbs. I also put a 1/2 inch spacer under the mounting to angle the shield back. it is A LOT BETTER! You probably wont find one used as most people love them and wouldnt give them up. I tried a few other shields, cal sci large, givi, yamaha tall, and v stream. the v stream is the one I keep for really cold weather. Best wishes on your search! TBW>