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:rant: That passed a group of KLR's on the Cherohala Saturday on the blind curve and nearly stuffed several of us off the road? :angry:

It's fucktards like you that kill people out on the roads up there. :rip:

Pass on the straights and relax in the curves. One of the guys with us was packing and you're damn lucky he didn't catch you :trinibob:

I'm not too amused dumb ass :rant:

 
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When/if you find out who this is, I'd appreciate a PM on the name.

This is the type of inidividual I don't want to come to WFO-5 next year. :angry:

 
I know it wasn't anyone in the group I was riding with. I was complaining about sportbikes doing this to me on the dragon.

 
Will do Warchild. What makes it worse, we stopped and talked to these people at an overlook, then they pulled that BS.

This clown was passing on a blind curve. I would have laughed my arse off if they would have been a hood ornament to an SUV coming.

:****: Hard to have much sympathy when stupid people kill themselves....Just gotta hope they don't take anyone else with them.

 
:rant: That passed a group of KLR's on the Cherohala Saturday on the blind curve and nearly stuffed several of us off the road? :angry:
It's fucktards like you that kill people out on the roads up there. :rip:

Pass on the straights and relax in the curves. One of the guys with us was packing and you're damn lucky he didn't catch you :trinibob:

I'm not too amused dumb ass :rant:
Hmmm... hate it when that happens... Don't believe it was anyone in the couples group either.. we were taking it kinda steady/easy on the cherohala portion.

Was the group heading east or west?

As a side note... although the guy passing on blind curves sounds like he was running a little out of control w/o much consideration for anyone's safety, I would say that threatening them w/ a gun isn't such a non jackass thing to do either.

I'm not sure what the NC rules are, but I know that in TN, waving a gun around, threating someone is a sure ticket to jail, getting yourself shot, or getting yourself sued.

I know I don't want to be riding w/ people who needlesly endanger others, wether it be with their motorcycle or with their guns.

Glad noone got hurt...

 
They were heading back towards Robbinsville.

The gun thing was sarcastic, far from a threat. I never saw it, although I heard him say that he had it. I only knew 2 of the 5 guys with us.

There was a KLR gathering in the area....although had he run us off the road, I'm certain a foot would have been lodged somewhere unpleasant.

 
What wasn't mentioned was if the group being passed failed to move right after a reasonable time. giving others a chance to pass safely (even in a double yellow) makes for a safer, happier ride for everyone involved.

[not making excuses for anyone who passes in a double yellow, around road hogs, in an unsafe manner.]

 
What wasn't mentioned was if the group being passed failed to move right after a reasonable time. giving others a chance to pass safely (even in a double yellow) makes for a safer, happier ride for everyone involved.
Bounce,

Not sure if you've ridden the Cherohala, but it's a lot of sweepers...some tighter than others. I use the whole road when I ride this type of road and I check my mirrors when I ride.

I'm not the fastest guy, but I'm not the slowest either. I'll pick up the pace in the corners, and slow it down in the straights. I don't care if I'm riding a KLR, or the FJR. Whether I'm passing, or being passed, I know who's around me. If there's a place to let them pass safely, I pull over and wave them through.

I stand by the topic of this thread and believe that they were total jackasses for passing like they did.

I believe that 1 person passed the 5 of us in a straight (a good safe spot to pass), and the others hesitated, then proceeded to pass us in an unsafe spot. End of story.

 
fwiw, people i talked to at eom said the klr's moved to the right to allow fjr's to pass....

 
I left the Tally Ho Sunday predawn and passed no one on the Dragon or Cherohala (um there was no one on the road to pass). The sun was up and the fog burnt off by the time I got to the Cherohala. I hate traffic jams!

There is no excuse to ride and endanger other bikers/cars/trucks!

 
Somebody around here probably knows who it was. I wouldn't expect the perp to man up and come clean though. C'mon, we're itchin for a lynchin'! :assasin:

 
Not sure if you've ridden the Cherohala, but it's a lot of sweepers...some tighter than others.  I use the whole road when I ride this type of road and I check my mirrors when I ride. 
I'm not the fastest guy, but I'm not the slowest either.  I'll pick up the pace in the corners, and slow it down in the straights.  I don't care if I'm riding a KLR, or the FJR.  Whether I'm passing, or being passed, I know who's around me.  If there's a place to let them pass safely, I pull over and wave them through.

I stand by the topic of this thread and believe that they were total jackasses for passing like they did. 

I believe that 1 person passed the 5 of us in a straight (a good safe spot to pass), and the others hesitated, then proceeded to pass us in an unsafe spot.  End of story.
I've ridden the area a few times. I consider DG to be more technical and would consider moving to the fog line appropriate in either area. Wheather it was me passing or being passed.

I've passed around blind corners before. Those we were passing may have thought we were unsafe. We had bike-to-bike comm. The first rider passed in a straight and then acted as our EYES around the corner to let us know if it remained safe to pass. We didn't cut off the lead bike we passed when we went by or anything like that.

People in the other group might have gotten pissed if they made assumptions and didn't ask questions.

What I'm saying is that it's common courtesy to "move right" in tight stuff when you aren't the one setting the pace. This doesn't mean pull off and stop, just move to the fog line.

I'm also saying that sometimes there's more going on that there first appears to be. I wasn't there, so can't say in this specific case. But I've been on the other side of a situation like there where the slower riders "bulled up" and were letting anyone by come hell or high water.

fwiw, people i talked to at eom said the klr's moved to the right to allow fjr's to pass.
Excellent! Good news!

 
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To be fair, all weekend I only had one bike that wouldn't move over or wave us through, and he was an old guy on a wing puttering along. I did pass him on the straits, though.

 
I think Bounce makes some good points. I'm certainly a novice around the Dragon and the Cherohala, but I know there are many curves that you can scout before you get there. IE you can see if anything is coming on the other side of the switchback or over on the next hill around the other side of the sweeper before you ever get there, so you know that nothing is coming, even if it seems like a totally blind curve. As I got more familiar with the terrain and comfortable with my skills, I also started looking ahead to see what was around the bend, before I even got there.

I was passed by several sport bikes in the Dragon, on the Cherohala, and in other places around the area as well. A couple times I was pretty nervous at first, but I moved over to the "fog line" and waved the bikes on. Even a couple FJR's. In some cases when they did blip by me on a "blind", I knew it was clear. A couple times I figured out after the blind or on a subsequent trip around how someone could scout ahead and easily pass in the curve while I was slowed and they were substantially faster. They usually jumped by me extremely fast and still had time to make a wave of thanks before I even finished the curve.

I agree that no one should pass in a curve like that without "permission", especially when it is truely a blind curve. I think that in a place like the Dragon, the sportie may be able to handle the situation, but the passee may loose his or her shit because of the pass and THAT could cause an accident. But the road ettiquette should go both ways.

Again, at the other end of the spectrum, I had to blow by more than a couple bikes that just would not share the road or wave to allow a pass. If that happens it pisses me off to no end, car or bike, but especially a bike. I never did pass on a blind curve, and I was careful where I picked my spot, but double yellow or not, I was not going to sit behind a Gold Wing or a Harely poking under the speed limit. After all, what's the point of having a super sport touring bike if you can't utilize the sport side.

I was thinking in the Dragon that in addition to the STAY IN YOUR LANE and Crossing the Centerline KILLS signs there should have been several SHARE THE ROAD signs all over the place.

I'm happy to report that the vast majority of cars and bikes did share the road. I had many slower cars pull off or over and wave us by. Even several Harley riders were obliging. However, there were a couple packs that I would just assume have nuked. But that's part of the problem when in the Gap area on a busy weekend I guess. Which is why I tried to ride it early and late in the day when there was very little or no traffic at all. Saves a lot of frustration and makes the riding much more enjoyable. And as crazy busy as it was, especially on Saturday, I'll do it again. Soon I hope.

 
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That may have been my group, yes we met some KLR's on the Skyway and then passed them later.

Our lead got by them on the straight.

I was second, I passed 4 on the straight and then cut in behind the lead KLR as we approached a bend.

I passed the lead KLR when I was waived by.

What happened with the two other FJR's behind I can't comment on.

Three of us had been riding all day and it was a very safe ride, paying particular attention to staying in lane and waiting for safe passing zones.

The fourth in the group, we had only just met as he had been seperated from his group. He stayed in the trail position so I never got to see his riding style.

Not going to name name's it's up the to the guy to admit he did this.

I am just as upset that other riders were put at risk.

BugR

 
After pulling one of our FZ1OA members up a cliff, a bunch of us were riding down DG to the CrossRoads, at a decent but not fast clip when some bozo on a duck blew by us around a blind right hander, nearly taking a couple of us out.

If you come up fast behind me, give me a second to see you in my mirrors. As soon as I do, and when it's safe, I'll wave you by--won't hurt my feelings--even if you're on a Harley (SOME riders are THAT good). But just have that smidge of courtesy and you'll be able to blow by me and be on your way--and you won't piss me off either. Your desire for fun doesn't give you the right to put me at risk, no matter how much of a geek you may think I am.

Too many people are getting killed on and around DG now. I suspect the DH factor has kicked in much, MUCH harder than before.

 
Too many people are getting killed on and around DG now. I suspect the DH factor has kicked in much, MUCH harder than before.
Less than on Hwy 98 in Gulf Breeze, FL and that road is typical Florida straight as an arrow!!

** MYTH, LIE, and RUMOR: Riders die every week at the Dragon.

For some odd reason this myth/lie/rumor is perpetuated by local sheriff deputies as they are issuing citations. One would think that those we pay to serve and protect would be above telling such lies. Surely they know it is not true. We have kept an accurate count of the deaths on the Dragon since 1995. The total count is 12, for an average a little more than 1.3 deaths a year. That is too many, but compared to the number of riders who come each year it is very low. We know of no deaths in cars or trucks.

It is not even accurate to say someone dies every week on the roads in close proximity to the Dragon. But the other area roads do have a much higher death rate that the Dragon itself. More riders die and suffer serious injuries on the Cherohala than the Dragon. **

Taken from www.tailofthedragon.com/legends.html

 
If you come up fast behind me, give me a second to see you in my mirrors. As soon as I do, and when it's safe, I'll wave you by--won't hurt my feelings--even if you're on a Harley (SOME riders are THAT good). But just have that smidge of courtesy and you'll be able to blow by me and be on your way--and you won't piss me off either. Your desire for fun doesn't give you the right to put me at risk, no matter how much of a geek you may think I am.
I couldn't agree more.

 
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