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my wife started on a dirt bike and then a gl500 honda and now rides a zr7s kawi. my daughter started on a ex500 kawi and still likes it and in the twisties is will stay with the fjr. they both did the msf course and both are very good riders. the more women that ride and ride well improve the sport IMO because then we get to ride more without making up reasons to take the bike out. it is a pain when i want to ride and i find that mine is already on the road somewhere and i am stuck with the little bike so don't leave the keys in the fjr.

 
I'm not a duc guy but...
looks like it would handle well.

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I wasn't either but I rode this Guzzi at a dealer that handles my MZ Skorpion and figured it would be a great bike to start my son out on. Actually I am having fun riding it. It handles well, very predictable, got easy to control brakes and will run 70 to 90 no problem. The fly screen actually works and what I like best no helmet buffeting!

 
twowheelnut--I like your vidios! and yeah--I knew I was going to catch it. Take a group of 10 ten year old boys that have never been on a dirt bike, and a like group of girls. Any doubt as to which group is going to be better at rideing after the first day? Take any school in the USA, any doubt as to who (boy or girl) is going to win the baseball throwing contest? Boys are better at some things and girls are better at others. Yes there are exceptions, but the really good female riders out there are just that, exceptions. Generally, boys are much more coordinated and have quicker reaction times than girls. As much as NASCAR would love to get some good female drivers (to bring in the female dollar) their isn't much to pick from out there. And I've got a suspicion that those Angelina Jolie movies aren't real. MIKE

 
Why are you looking at the Ninja (636 i believe) and not the fz6?  The ninja actually has more displacement, and is just a powerful/light.  If you're looking at the small ninja for her, I would think the 250, maybe the 500.  IMHO
Simple answer is that the Ninja 650 is a two cylinder with counterbalancers, and while I haven't seen specs published yet, its seat height, width at the pegs and weight are reported in reviews to be low, narrow and light, respectively. While I think a Ninja 500 (or EX500) is a better first bike, especially since it can be found used, I think she'd grow out of the Ninja 250 too quickly. Moreover, I firmly believe that the Ninja 650 is likely to be MUCH preferrable to the FZ6. Here's why:

The FZ6 sports something like 90 peak HP, and is taller than the Ninjas mentioned. I believe the new Ninja 650 is supposed to be around 70 HP (still considerable), while being at least as compact and light as a Ninja 500.

More importantly, the FZ6 is a 4 cylinder, while the mentioned Ninjas are 2 cyl bikes. Many of us might not remember this (I've been riding a LOOONG time), but standing astride a bike stopped at a red light and trying to feather the clutch as she rolls on the throttle when the light turns green is likely to be one of the biggest challenges she will face for a while. All she has to do is drop it with traffic waiting, or lurch it though a crowded intersection, and her stress level will go off the charts, her fear level will go up and her enjoyment level will go way down. I want her to have the maximum advantage in becoming a good rider who learns to concentrate and handle a bike intuitively, not be scared and distracted by bike issues that clutter the mental and emotional landscape.

Displacement isn't the primary factor here. Weight and leverage (e.g., seat height) certainly play a part. BUT the main ingredient is that a small (600cc) 4 cylinder tuned to produce peak power up around 10,000 rpm doesn't have the torque at lower rpms that a 2 cylinder of similar displacement does. As a result, there's generally a LOT greater margin of error in feathering the clutch from a standing start with the 2 cyl. than there is with a more highly tuned 4 cylinder of similar displacement, which must be revved higher to get the same torque to start off. Easy for you and me; not so easy for a newbie who hasn't been clutching with a left hand and rolling on throttle with the right for most of her life.

BTW, the Suzuki SV650 would fall into the same group as the Ninja 500 or 650 IMO and can be found used, but I'm not convinced yet that its seat height is (or can be made) low enough. Still, it would be one I'd like to look at for her -- again, assuming she wants to go ahead after the MSF class. I've told her that I'll only support this endeavor if she wants to do it for her (not for me) AND is committed to becoming an excellent rider. I DO NOT want to watch her do a get off on a bike. If she spends a year or two getting to be a good rider on an easier bike to learn on, then I'd happily encourage her to sell the first bike and get an FZ6 (a bike I really like, esp. for the money a used one goes for) if that's what she still has the hots for.

 
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Jeff have you and your wife thought about the Buell Blast?

https://buell.com/en_us/home.asp

Looks like a good starter. It's 500cc, enough power to run all day on the highway, belt final drive, and it has a low seat.

gypsy

 
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Yes there are exceptions, but the really good female riders out there are just that, exceptions. Generally, boys are much more coordinated and have quicker reaction times than girls.
Must... restrain... self...

 
my girlfriend rides a Triumph SpeedMaster 865, she is 5'2, been riding just a year, she loves this bike and it gives her the power she needs to last another season, it handles well, good seating position, low maint, and is a great classic bike, and resale value will be good, BTW, she keeps refering to when she takes my FEEJER out, I think she's going to move to Galxy5 when I move to an '07,

 
Yes there are exceptions, but the really good female riders out there are just that, exceptions.  Generally, boys are much more coordinated and have quicker reaction times than girls.
Must... restrain... self...
:haha: :haha: :haha:

Go ahead, AZBikergirl, let it out!

You'd think, by now, that some would understand this is not a "good ol' boys club" and that there are several lady riders who belong to the FJR boards. Doh! IIRC, a lady rider owns one of the top speed records @ Bonneville. Yep, them gals jist can't seem ta learn how ta ride one uh these here powerfool motorsickles. We gotta watch fer'em, 'cuz they jist can't measure-up. Geez, wait until the next generation coming up reaches their teens and early twenties...I'm thinking of the young ladies who are now terrorizing the dirt tracks and pocket bike circuits. One of these days, its going to be: Watch out for that rider in the pink leathers! Aaaand, we all know that them fellers is soooo much bedder at multi-tasking!?!?!?!

I'm thinking that Kasey has more miles on her '03 FJR than most of the riders who post here. I wonder how she does that, being a grandmother and all?

 
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"All of the gals seemed to have a much slower response time than the guys, and this makes it much more dangerous for them in a dangerous situation. Their brains can't seem to handle the clutch, foot shift, brake, balance combination, as quickly as guys can. I guess I'm going to catch hell from a few folks but this is my opinion based on years of observation. If my wife had her own bike, I would have her HEAVILY insured." MIKE

professor,

my girlfriend Arnica just read your comments,, she wants to ride her SpeedMaster right up your ,,,,,, ****** well you get the message!!

 
I should probably temper what I just posted. The issue might be better defined by one simple fact: Most women aren't interested in riding motorcycles. The reasons for this are many and varied, but not the least is the way motorcycling is portrayed...Mr. Macho Cuiser or Baaad mo'fo' streetracer are probably not conducive to introducing most lady riders to this sport/hobby/whatever.

It's interesting to note the amount of pillions, and daughters of riders, who are now taking MSF courses and the interesting threads about "My wife's/girlfriend's first bike".

Those lady riders who have made the transition and are spreading the word about the freedoms and joys of motorcycle touring and cruising, the senses that are heightened by the smells and sights of nature that can only be observed on bikes, etc., serve only to increase their percentage in the mix of riders. May their tribe increase, and may we welcome and encourage them, to the betterment of us all.

 
Oh, damn....glad my sister-in-law isn't reading this. She is a highly accomplished rider that started out on a Radian 600; she's been riding a Maxim-X for several years and can really make it handle in the twisties. Others always seem surprised, either to be passed by a...what was that? Or when the helmet comes off- to see a female.

My wife (5'5") had been looking at a Triumph Bonneville as a first bike, or a Suzuki GS500F; but now, after the MSF class, and racking up hundreds of miles on my trusty GS1100L, she's thinking about a V-Max! B)

 
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