Will Either Gen FJR fit on a 2nd Gen Shortbed Tacoma?

[DeweyIsgod]

This forum is going soft! I can't believe it took 19 posts before someone told the poster to ride it home.

Track bikes and trail bikes go in trucks and trailers. The FJR is meant for distance.

 

[RaYzerman19]

More i read about it,more im going to look into towing it somehow...

I had a hell of a time loading my f650 when i had a front tire blowout on it while on the interstate. Then my old ninja 250 felt heavy for me. i'm 5'7 and only weigh a measly 155lbs. Getting the fjr to the back of the truck will take me out!

Take somebody with you and ride it home. If not, trailer it or put some 3/4"plywood on the floor of the Toyota (2 sheets would be better)..... PITA is getting it loaded and unloaded.

 

[BwanaDik]

This forum is going soft! I can't believe it took 19 posts before someone told the poster to ride it home.

Track bikes and trail bikes go in trucks and trailers. The FJR is meant for distance.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Too true!

The other issue you'll have is that, once in the back of the truck, the roll center of the combined load is way high. You're putting all that weight above the sides of the bed which makes for some very weird handling in tight corners. The bike may not fall over if strapped in well but it sure feels like the whole rig is going to tip. I've got a 2000 taco and have given up on putting the Feej in the back for this very reason.

Also, renting a trailer is a LOT cheaper than the back surgery you'll need after riding/pushing/falling off the ramps trying to get that big pig into the truck bed. DAMHIK

 

[FastSpy]

. Getting the fjr to the back of the truck will take me out!

From my experiences loading motobikes in the back of my Tacoma.. The entry is easier because you can use the engine going up but getting it out and going down the ramp backwards trying to control your speed/balance is something you should make sure your insurance covers, both health and motorcycle..

 

[FastSpy]

I think he's thinking about all of the bike's weight being on the ramp before the front wheel gets into the truck, but he forgets that one end of the ramp is on the ground, and that end carries enough weight that you wouldn't want it sitting on your foot.

Myself, I still woundn't put an FJR on the tailgate.

I'm thinking about when the front wheel of the bike is just about to enter the box from tailgate..

actually about the time he and his bike hit the corner of the tailgate is where he will feel the tailgate drop and rest on the bumper after either breaking the cables or bending the tailgate. Try holding the front break of the FJR on while the front tire is resting on plywood or the inner bed and keep it from sliding backwards.

You could allways rent a H-haul trailer or borrow someones..

 

[FastSpy]

I read that the tail gate + cables were reinforced for the latest year taco's. Either way, im still not sure of putting the fjr on the tailgate for any length of time. Love the rims on your taco. Is that the 4cyl? Unfortunately i didnt get the 4x4 . A trailer may be my best bet, or a fly and ride. either way, i've got a feeling im going to be in for a road trip!

The wheels were a special design by Konig specifically for the Tacoma and imported from Japan. They do offer a bit more offset for those that move to larger diameter tires for off-road use by providing clearance during full locks turns at the rear pinch weld on the front wheelwell. Besides the look they are extremely light which doesn't impact the little 2.7L 4 popper performance or breaking at all and helps when running larger than 31" tires that typically weigh a ton.

 

[timk]

I hauled mine in a S10 a couple times with the back on part of the tailgate,never gave it a thought. I'd never attempt without a good set of arched ramps. Makes loading/unloading easy.

 

[wfooshee]

I think he's thinking about all of the bike's weight being on the ramp before the front wheel gets into the truck, but he forgets that one end of the ramp is on the ground, and that end carries enough weight that you wouldn't want it sitting on your foot.

Myself, I still woundn't put an FJR on the tailgate.

I'm thinking about when the front wheel of the bike is just about to enter the box from tailgate..

At which point most of the bike's weight is still on the rear wheel, which is on the ramp, and half the ramp's load will be at the end on the ground. The actual point at which the tailgate would be most loaded is when the rear wheel gets onto it, at which point it will be carrying at least 400 pounds, more if you're actually goofy enough to try to ride it up.

Which to me, is still too much to put on a tailgate. I'm not arguing that point, I'm saying there's not gonna ever be any 900 pounds.

 

[FastSpy]

The actual point at which the tailgate would be most loaded is when the rear wheel gets onto it, at which point it will be carrying at least 400 pounds, more if you're actually goofy enough to try to ride it up.

But you are forgetting where you (another 200lbs approx) will be at that point assuming you walk the bike up the ramp like most sane people would do with a FJR. When the rear wheel gets onto the tail gate your 200lbs will now be in the box and off the tail gate. You are also not considering the additional leverage put on the tailgate as you move towards the end of it or right off the end in comparison to being closer to the box.

I've loaded my enduros in the back of my Tacoma many many times and know exactly the point at which applies the most weight and leverage to the tailgate. Give it a try sometime.

 

[RadioHowie]

More i read about it,more im going to look into towing it somehow...

I had a hell of a time loading my f650 when i had a front tire blowout on it while on the interstate. Then my old ninja 250 felt heavy for me. i'm 5'7 and only weigh a measly 155lbs. Getting the fjr to the back of the truck will take me out!

Smart move. I got trapped under a BMW R100 and spent 20 long minutes in incredible pain before escaping. And everyone around to hear ignores my yells either.

 

[Pilot2Wheels]

I have a 2005 Tacoma double cab long bed, and after looking at the wheelbase and weight of the 2007 FJR I bought, said FORGET IT! Too much weight, and the thought of loading it gave me a vision I didn't like.

Now, if I wasn't the owner of the truck and/or FJR, I would have fun with the camera and trying to win $10,000 on America's funniest videos.

Don't do it. I trailered mine, but if I had to do it again, I would ride it home.

 

[sportsguy]

I got trapped under a BMW R100 and spent 20 long minutes in incredible pain before escaping. And no one around to hear my yells either.

Clearly a candidate for this little gem...

I have a 2011 Tacoma regular cab, 4x4. 6 foot bed. That would be pushing it to haul the FJR in my garage. Tailgate issues aside, the stock composite boxes on these newer Tacos are very slippery unless you have a bed mat in them. I'm in the camp of "fly & ride" on this one.

A few things will happen:

1 - you'll get very aquainted with the new bike - looking at your cycle history...and how can I put this gently... this will be a MASSIVE step up in power, so you'll wlecome the highway time t get used to the throttle/grin dynamic of an FJR

2 - you'll come to understand what,if anything, needs modifying to fit you personally

3 - you'll have an excellent experience

4 - you'll have a cool story to post up on the forum here, because if you drive down in the truck and tow the bike back on a trailer, we'll be in two camps: 1 - chuckling; 2 - jealous that we don't have a trailer (me) (I say this knowing I'v eonly managed 8k mile sin almost 3 years on my own FJR... )

5 - depending on the distance, and your expereince/desire, you could go for an Iron Butt designation on the ride home.

Mind that you buy the correct year/color or the whole things will simply go off the rails on you, too. (2009, black/black)

 

[stevet]

U-Haul motorcycle trailer rental.

https://www.uhaul.com/Reservations/EquipmentDetail.aspx?model=MT

 

[El Toro]

If you have a buddy (or significant other or adult child), take them with you and ride it back.

If you don't, the U-Haul trailer idea is a good one.

If you really want to take it in the pick up truck bed, you might want to use a loading dock on both ends. That's how I brought my '06 AE home in my full size pick up.

If you really want to use the pick up and you can't find a loading dock and decide to use a ramp, BE SURE TO ATTACH THE SAFETY STRAPS THAT FIX THE RAMP TO THE TRUCK BED. If you don't use the straps, when the front wheel comes off the ramp, the rear wheel under power is very likely to just kick the ramp off the tailgate, and you'll end up with some significant damage to either you, the bike, or most likely both.

 

[iiXioM]

I got trapped under a BMW R100 and spent 20 long minutes in incredible pain before escaping. And no one around to hear my yells either.

Clearly a candidate for this little gem...

I have a 2011 Tacoma regular cab, 4x4. 6 foot bed. That would be pushing it to haul the FJR in my garage. Tailgate issues aside, the stock composite boxes on these newer Tacos are very slippery unless you have a bed mat in them. I'm in the camp of "fly & ride" on this one.

A few things will happen:

1 - you'll get very aquainted with the new bike - looking at your cycle history...and how can I put this gently... this will be a MASSIVE step up in power, so you'll wlecome the highway time t get used to the throttle/grin dynamic of an FJR

2 - you'll come to understand what,if anything, needs modifying to fit you personally

3 - you'll have an excellent experience

4 - you'll have a cool story to post up on the forum here, because if you drive down in the truck and tow the bike back on a trailer, we'll be in two camps: 1 - chuckling; 2 - jealous that we don't have a trailer (me) (I say this knowing I'v eonly managed 8k mile sin almost 3 years on my own FJR... )

5 - depending on the distance, and your expereince/desire, you could go for an Iron Butt designation on the ride home.

Mind that you buy the correct year/color or the whole things will simply go off the rails on you, too. (2009, black/black)

1. my first thought when i went from the 250 to the 650 was essentially "omg im gonna ride on one wheel all the way home". My first thought when i jump on the FJR? "I'm cuban...is this what they meant by missle crisis?"

2. Definitely. especially with my smaller stature

3. I have an excellent experience just sitting on them in the showroom. I can only imaging flinging it around town.

4. Either way i'll have some kind of story!

If you have a buddy (or significant other or adult child), take them with you and ride it back.

If you don't, the U-Haul trailer idea is a good one.

If you really want to take it in the pick up truck bed, you might want to use a loading dock on both ends. That's how I brought my '06 AE home in my full size pick up.

If you really want to use the pick up and you can't find a loading dock and decide to use a ramp, BE SURE TO ATTACH THE SAFETY STRAPS THAT FIX THE RAMP TO THE TRUCK BED. If you don't use the straps, when the front wheel comes off the ramp, the rear wheel under power is very likely to just kick the ramp off the tailgate, and you'll end up with some significant damage to either you, the bike, or most likely both.

This...could possibly be an idea. I have access to a loading dock, so this may be the alternative way to go...that is..after i strap the ever living hell out of it and reinforce where ever the rear wheel hangs out from the bed. Though, at this point i may still just ride it home!

 

[Fred W]

This thread is hilarious.

Everyone is all worried about the "weight rating" of the tail gate of the truck, and whether it will support it. That isn't the freekin' problem here boyz. The problem is that when you get that over-600-lbs-of-two-wheeled-mayhem up in the air 3 or 4 feet, and slow down to get the thing into the bed, (without ramming the front wheel through the back of the trck cab) Where you gonna put your damn feet down to hold it up?

Flop. Bang. Fail!! <<< yeah, click that. It's a classic

Just buy a ******* plane ticket and ride the damn thing home.

Airfare is cheap. Chiropractors... not so much.

And your tender *** will get over it in a few days.

 

[ionbeam]

I'm with Fred on this one. The other hidden 'gottcha' is when you run up the ramp and the center stand hits bottom due to the steepness of the ramp angle right where it meets the tailgate. Let me tell ya, it takes a long ramp for this not to happen. When it does happen and you NEED to get a foot down on the ramp which will be 2' below what you can reach. While I haven't done this, I've seen a 850 lb motorcycle go over the edge and land on top of the loading rider.

 

[FastSpy]

This thread is hilarious.

Everyone is all worried about the "weight rating" of the tail gate of the truck, and whether it will support it. That isn't the freekin' problem here boyz. The problem is that when you get that over-600-lbs-of-two-wheeled-mayhem up in the air 3 or 4 feet, and slow down to get the thing into the bed, (without ramming the front wheel through the back of the trck cab) Where you gonna put your damn feet down to hold it up?

You get a tri-fold ramp that opens to 48" wide like the one pictured in the back of my Tacoma on the first page and you walk the bike up the ramp into the box. I hauled my friends Hayabusa this way but I would not go with anything as heavy as the FJR and you on the tail gate unless you are filming it..

The other problem you will have with a late model Tacoma is that there are NO D-rings in the front floor of the box to attach front tie downs to. The side rail mounts that come standard with a Tacoma are good for about 50lbs of tension..

Lots of speculation in this thread.. with NO experience only conjecture.

 

[MartyA]

I've had an XS11 and an FZ-1 in the back of my Ford Ranger X, took them both to GA a couple of times. I also rescued an R-1 for a friend. Never tried the FJR, though. It is more fun to ride to GA.

I load my bikes myself. I have a 6 1/2' long tri-fold ramp, which allows me to walk the bikes up and down into the bed. To be safe I find a tall curb or a bank on the edge of the road and that cuts down the angle of the ramp. I didn't need much, 4-6" was enough. The parking area at TWO had a nice dirt hump for just such an occasion.

The first trip with the XS11 the rear wheel did leave a bit of a dent in the gate. For the next two trips a square of 1" plywood under the rear wheel spread the weight sufficiently. The FZ-1 wheel base short enough that the rear wheel didn't rest on the tail gate.

You do need D-rings or eye-bolts or something reliable to tie the bike down. I have them included in the bed of my Ranger, front and rear. One could install a wheel chock in the front if there are no tie-down rings in the front of the bed. But you definitely need some reliable tie-down rings in the bed to secure the bike.

I don't know the length of your Tacoma bed, nor its weight restrictions. My XS11 weighed 565+ with a 63" (?) wheel base. The FZ-1 was shorter and 100lb lighter, much less of a problem. My Ranger is registered and rated as a 3/4 ton, with a bit of added spring underneath, and it still sagged a little under the XS11.

But avoid all this hassle, just remember - fly and ride.

 

[dcarver]

Fred, like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIj5G5xS2zs

FF to 2:45