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So the dealership financed my bike by putting it on a Yamaha-branded HSBC credit card. Now that the bike's paid off, is there any advantage to keeping it, or should I just go ahead and cancel it? I wouldn't think so, but I'm mostly a noob in the money department. It's got some horrendous rate for non-promo items.

 
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So the dealership financed my bike by putting it on a Yamaha-branded HSBC credit card. Now that the bike's paid off, is there any advantage to keeping it, or should I just go ahead and cancel it? I wouldn't think so, but I'm mostly a noob in the money department. It's got some horrendous rate for non-promo items.
It's complicated.

There is some advantage to keeping old accounts open when looking at your credit report.

Check out this article.Credit Score

 
So the dealership financed my bike by putting it on a Yamaha-branded HSBC credit card. Now that the bike's paid off, is there any advantage to keeping it, or should I just go ahead and cancel it? I wouldn't think so, but I'm mostly a noob in the money department. It's got some horrendous rate for non-promo items.
Don't cancel instead send it to me and I will take care of it for you.

Always looking to help out the Noobs :rolleyes:

 
Is this like the V-Stream windshield? Can I try out the card when you are done? Should we start a list?

Crash Cash

Bluestreek

SteveC677

 
So the dealership financed my bike by putting it on a Yamaha-branded HSBC credit card. Now that the bike's paid off, is there any advantage to keeping it, or should I just go ahead and cancel it? I wouldn't think so, but I'm mostly a noob in the money department. It's got some horrendous rate for non-promo items.
I'm in the same situation. The dealer gave me a great deal plus financed 180 days same as cash and was given the Yamaha card as part of that. The bike was paid for at the end of that term and now the Yamaha card is just sitting there unused. I keep it for my credit rating more than anything as long as they don't charge me any fees...

 
Sure, hang onto it, but keep watching for those tricky fees. Like for NOT using it, using it outside of Presque Isle, Maine, using the pen-on-a-chain in the bank office, or chatting-up the cute teller. Seriously, if it isn't costing you anything to keep it, then keep it and use it for the discount on whatever is included.

pete

 
It's complicated.
Yup! I figured... thanks for the explanation. I'll go ahead and keep it open, then. I'm the sort of guy who was taught to pay cash for everything, and it really hurt my finances for the longest time. My parent's method of "teaching me to manage money" was to open a savings account in my name, then never allow me access to it...

 
So the dealership financed my bike by putting it on a Yamaha-branded HSBC credit card. Now that the bike's paid off, is there any advantage to keeping it, or should I just go ahead and cancel it? I wouldn't think so, but I'm mostly a noob in the money department. It's got some horrendous rate for non-promo items.
Interesting question. When my 05 FJR was delivered in October 04 I signed up for the 6 months of free financing and got the card without asking for it. I paid in full after the 5th month, got the title, and forgot about the card since I never had any intention of using it. Just looked and I still have it...and it may still be active. Seems like I read somewhere that it is good for your credit score if you have between 4 to 7 active credit cards with no more than 30 percent indebtedness on each card...so having a CC sitting there with a zero balance is probably a positive as long as you don't have more than 7 cards.

 
That's pretty much my situation, I was cleaning up and came across the physical card, so I went online and it's definitely active, with a 22% rate for non-promo stuff, and apparently no yearly or other surprise fees. I'm surprised nobody suggested buying a 2nd FJR... :)

 
So the dealership financed my bike by putting it on a Yamaha-branded HSBC credit card. Now that the bike's paid off, is there any advantage to keeping it, or should I just go ahead and cancel it? I wouldn't think so, but I'm mostly a noob in the money department. It's got some horrendous rate for non-promo items.
Advantage of keeping it: Credit score may be a few points higher, shows other creditors that you have other acct's open, and your debt to available credit ratio will be better(creditors like this), not to be confused with debt to income ratio.

Disadvantages: annual fees if applicable, having an open credit account that burns a hole in your pocket, 1 more statement that an ID thief could get their hands on, and some creditors may look at the acct. as potential debt(meaning if you go out and try and get a mortgage or a new car, some creditors may say, well if we give him the loan and then he goes and maxes out the Yamaha card, he may not be able to fulfill his obligation to us).

I've been through this on 3 different bikes(1 Yamaha and 2 Kaws) and all 3 were 0% for 6mo. I also did this with Best Buy with a 0% for 36mo. All of the above use HSBC-Retail Svcs and if I remember correctly, my payments went to Carol Stream, IL. I never had an issue on any of the 3 bike purchases. All were paid in full before the 6mo term limits and all 3 cards were deactivated after 2-3yrs of inactivity. I don't recall my credit score ever going down from the deactivations and I monitor my credit monthly.

However, I found it odd that towards the end of the 36mo term with the Best Buy/HSBC card, they failed to send me a monthly statement on 2 different occasions. It didn't really matter much to me because I make sure my payments are made regardless of a statement, but it could've been disasterous. The initial Best Buy purchase was quite large, so towards the end of the term, the deferred interest was around $2,500.

I learned that, if you're late on a payment, miss a payment, or if your payment is $.01 less than the minimum monthly payment, they CAN attach all deferred interest to your balance. It was as if they failed to send my statements on 2 separate occasions on purpose, hoping I would miss a payment, therefore I would default on the agreement. I would've given them the benefit of the doubt if it happened once, but twice within a few months of one another just didn't seem right. I ended up just paying off the entire balance + sent them an extra $50, so they owe me and can't come back and say anything about me not being 'paid in full'.

The last experience left a bad taste for me, so instead of using HSBC's money for free for the term, i'm just gonna pay cash so I don't have to worry about them trying to screw me.

 
As long as there are no annual fees, keep it. Part of your FICO score is calculated based on age of accounts. So, if you close it now, it will stay on your report for approx 10 years and be fine, but once it drops, you'll lose points. Another part of FICO scores is debt:available credit ratio. For optimum FICO scores you should be at or below 10%. Closing the account will mean that credit line is not used in your scoring. (As a side note, with few exceptions, any score NOT obtained from myfico.com is NOT a FICO...its a FAKO and may or may not be close to your actual FICO. You can Google "FAKO vs FICO" if youre interested. Also, for the most part, you can only get your FICO for Trans Union and Equifax...but not for Experian.)

Here are the things that contribute to your FICO score:

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Oh gosh. This is becoming credit-nerdy.

 
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Unless this card now has an unusually low interest rate if you carry a balance, why keep it? Except that closing lines of credit or credit cards can lower your utilization rate (amount of credit used divided by total credit available). But that not withstanding, unless it does offer some real advantages to it's use with you, go with a card that gives you something in return (like cash, mileage, etc.). One of the best if you shop at costco is their amex branded card. Just remember amex can't be used in as many places as visa or m/c, but it should be in your wallet. No annual fees with the costco $100/yr membership, but you get 2% back from costco and 1-4% back from amex on everything you put on the card.

Me? I'm a cpa and I use 2 credit cards, both with no annual fees and they both have rewards. One is the above described costco amex card with the executive costco membership and the other is a capital one visa that gives me back 1.5% on everything I use it for. We travel alot overseas and that capital one visa is the only credit card out there with no foreign transaction fees for usage outside the U.S. And it covers secondary auto coverage for use in the U.S. and primary overseas so you do not need to buy cdw on a rental car. And just to remind you, these cards work best if you do not carry a balance as their interest rates are not low.

So there is my blurb to you and anyone else who gives a wit.

 
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As long as there are no annual fees, keep it. Part of your FICO score is calculated based on age of accounts. So, if you close it now, it will stay on your report for approx 10 years and be fine, but once it drops, you'll lose points. Another part of FICO scores is debt:available credit ratio. For optimum FICO scores you should be at or below 10%. Closing the account will mean that credit line is not used in your scoring. (As a side note, with few exceptions, any score NOT obtained from myfico.com is NOT a FICO...its a FAKO and may or may not be close to your actual FICO. You can Google "FAKO vs FICO" if youre interested. Also, for the most part, you can only get your FICO for Trans Union and Equifax...but not for Experian.)

Here are the things that contribute to your FICO score:

ce_scorebreakdown.png


Oh gosh. This is becoming credit-nerdy.
Nicely put. This is part of the New Beacon Score (that looks like a Google Search Algorithm) madness...again, not part of the Common Sense equation, but they make the rules.

Good to have Good Wide Credit (better source of history) than NO or Shallow history even though it means about the same.

Though you may not need it Now... it pays off with more Options/Flexibility later... but to have this later, it is best to maintain now ....so if and when that time comes....it is possible.

 
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