Ye Olde Pharts like us need to be careful out there!
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Dr. Rich
Arrested Development
I do think the article is accurate in some respects... I do find it harder to sit on the bike for long periods of time. I think it must have something to do with the thickness of my wallet. I know that I don't ride as fast as others because "I don't have to". I don't have to be at work on Monday morning any longer. As far as skill level, I try not to put myself in situations that would raise my blood pressure and cause me to take another pill. Also as evidenced by Old Michael and Neihart, we old men can't ride as far without taking a wee break...I probably wear better gear now than I ever did because I know if I hit the ground, it is going to hurt!... Seriously I don't think the article is accurate in many respects. I don't take the risks I once did, I don't feel the need to prove anything to anyone and when you are the age of some of us old fossils, you have a keen sense of self preservation. There is a saying about Old Pilots, Bold Pilots but no Old Bold Pilots...We old farts have survived a long time by not testing our limits too often and wanting to enjoy another slice of pie or happy hour.
Chuck35
Well-known member
I recently discovered I'm not as smart as I used to think I was.
Does that make me now smarter than I was then?
Redfish Hunter
Gone Fishing
I am not smart enough to figure that one out...
I know when I was younger I thought I was smarter than everybody. Fred W and Ionbeam could not begin to approach how smart I thought I was. Now, I have gotten so dumb that I... Wait, what were we talking about again?
SkooterG
Purveyor of Crooked Facts
While some of our physical abilities may decline as we age, like strength, reaction times, and eyesight, we gain experience, wisdom, and respect for our own mortality which I believe trumps those things that decline. Just like Fighter Pilots. It's the 'experienced' ones that are good.
Of course some folks are stooopid. And I bet most of these older rider crash statistics are newer, or returning riders, with no recent training.
I agree the article is a sham and manipulates the numbers for sensationalism. But those red boots! I could totally see Fred W sporting those fancy red boots!
Of course some folks are stooopid. And I bet most of these older rider crash statistics are newer, or returning riders, with no recent training.
I agree the article is a sham and manipulates the numbers for sensationalism. But those red boots! I could totally see Fred W sporting those fancy red boots!
HotRodZilla
GOD BLESS AMERICA
Somebody's gotta Photoshop Beemerdons in those boots and a thong. That'll bring your mortality to a screeching halt.
+100 - It is one of life's greatest ironies that young men, who have their entire lives ahead of them and so have the most to lose, are mostly fearless. And conversely, when we are old and gray and can count the years we have left on our fingers we wouldn't dream of taking "unnecessary chances."
Red? No way. You clearly don't really know me very well, SkooterG. I'd sooner wear a leather vest and ***-less chaps than wear a white jacket and red boots.
Now HiViz boots...
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beemerdons
Certifiable Old Fart
Working on it as we speak El Pendejo Grande, and SkooterG is so right on that I am still a STUDLY RIDER! "While some of our physical abilities may decline as we age, like strength, reaction times, and eyesight, we gain experience, wisdom, and respect for our own mortality which I believe trumps those things that decline. Just like Fighter Pilots and Irish Pugilists. It's the 'experienced' ones that are good."
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Bustanut joker
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What sheep?
I lost my glasses yesterday and can't see a damned thing, the wife described the scene but she didn't talk loud enough for me to "get the picture" and this braille keyboard is a fuker to use.
John d
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This article is similar to others I've read in the past regarding 40+ riders being the new high risk category. Certainly, this age group has the means more so than the younger generations to enter the market, as is now apparent with the increasing numbers. The real problem I think, and that the insurance companies focus on, are new 40+ riders, and 40+ riders that are starting to ride again after a long absence. Many of these riders focus on image and may think their old skills are good enough, or feel that being older helps, as in already having experience on the road, but the reality is, they sadly lack the real riding skills required. The 40+ riders who have always ridden from an early age are much less of an issue, since their skills have been finely honed over time. As always, experience counts, and the insurance companies do ask questions that establish rider experience.
So, "ye old pharts" still need to be careful out there, but being older is not a prerequisite to an insurance claim. Being much older though, as in infirm is, and hopefully everybody knows when to hang up the helmet.
So, "ye old pharts" still need to be careful out there, but being older is not a prerequisite to an insurance claim. Being much older though, as in infirm is, and hopefully everybody knows when to hang up the helmet.
That reminds me of something that was once told to me " The older you get, the smarter your dad becomes.". A very true statement.
oki
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Granger
Well-known member
You can make statistics say almost anything you want if you look diligently enough. The fact is that the Boomer generation is changing all the stats. Put a huge population wave into the mix for a limited two decades and we can ruin all the stats, but unfortunately it will be the next generation that really suffers the results with the insurance companies because their data always looks backwards, about (guess what) two decades.
Yeah, I know that at 60 I am not quite as fast as I used to be, but this is offset by 30 years of learning where to look out for other drivers' stupidity and blindness, and I'll take that over quicker reactions. Yep, I can still make mistakes, but I am intentionally more careful now because of my age and my awareness of not just mortality but damage control.
I bought my FJR from an older guy who admitted that he just could not do long distance rides anymore, which is what he had purchased it for, and because of that I got a great deal. Now he just rides his hot Ducati "around the neighborhood" to feed his impulse to ride (!).
Yeah, I know that at 60 I am not quite as fast as I used to be, but this is offset by 30 years of learning where to look out for other drivers' stupidity and blindness, and I'll take that over quicker reactions. Yep, I can still make mistakes, but I am intentionally more careful now because of my age and my awareness of not just mortality but damage control.
I bought my FJR from an older guy who admitted that he just could not do long distance rides anymore, which is what he had purchased it for, and because of that I got a great deal. Now he just rides his hot Ducati "around the neighborhood" to feed his impulse to ride (!).
LAF
Well-known member
You guys do know that big S on your chest does fade with age, right? I know in my 20's that thing was bright red. In my 30's it faded a bit more. By mid 40's is was there but very light kinda hard to see. By fifty it was barley there and I could just make it out. 55 and it is gone, not even a slight trace of it.
So now that my S was gone off my chest I had to use the skills God gave me. That means I need to take my meds, go to the gym, eat better, and be a bit slower in speed. It is not a bad tradeoff as knowledge is king. I will take my 30 or more years riding experience to my S any day!
I still get a wild hair and do a ton every time I am on the bike. I do it in a more appropriate settings, with more awareness then when younger, but I still play.
Getting older is not a bad thing at all. And with a little gym time and taking care of yourself a bit older is really liberating. I know I will push the **** It Button in a heartbeat and say and do what I like wherever or whatever I am doing.
I may be a bit slower but I sure do know what and what not to do, and when it should or should not be done.
56 and loving the Freedom.
So now that my S was gone off my chest I had to use the skills God gave me. That means I need to take my meds, go to the gym, eat better, and be a bit slower in speed. It is not a bad tradeoff as knowledge is king. I will take my 30 or more years riding experience to my S any day!
I still get a wild hair and do a ton every time I am on the bike. I do it in a more appropriate settings, with more awareness then when younger, but I still play.
Getting older is not a bad thing at all. And with a little gym time and taking care of yourself a bit older is really liberating. I know I will push the **** It Button in a heartbeat and say and do what I like wherever or whatever I am doing.
I may be a bit slower but I sure do know what and what not to do, and when it should or should not be done.
56 and loving the Freedom.
Bustanut joker
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Had to what old man??? Pound rocks into dirt? Part the Red Sea? Learn to count with an abacus?
Do tell..
odot
CC member # 17,----- DUP member # 7, mensa club m
I think they only had five chapters in the bible back then...........
Bustanut joker
Well-known member
Oh I bet it was done.. But O'Keeffe was in charge of the edit and had just discovered fermenting fruit..
beemerdons
Certifiable Old Fart
Dr. Rich edited Genesis through Ecclesiastes, Papa Chuy edited Song of Solomon through Malachi and Old Michael edited The Gospel According to Matthew through Revelation; that is why Revelation got kind of freaky-deaky and weirded out, OM had invented Irish Poteen around that time period! jes' sayin' and nuff' said!
