Yes , Another CC100 Question

[bandit]

I was following the instructions posted , but they are for a 2004 non ABS. Mine is a 2005 ABS, I have everything where its supposed to be, but I am at a loss as to which coil wire to hook it up to. the directions have different colored wires than mine. Do i use a wire tap , or am I missing something that I can just plug it into? Als he lists the brake light wires as yellow adn brown, Mine are blue adn yellow. I just dont want to burn anything up doing this install. I searched all over, but cane find an install on a 2005 ABS bike to reference.

 

[ionbeam]

...the instructions...are for a 2004...Mine is a 2005 ABS...I am at a loss as to which coil wire to hook it up to...Do i use a wire tap...Als he lists the brake light wires as yellow adn brown, Mine are blue adn yellow...

The 2004 and 2005 are both Gen I, the wiring and color codes are the same. There is nothing that you can simply plug into.

All Gens tap the solid Orange or Gray/Red coil wires, no difference between the two coil wires for the AVCC. The tap can be done at the coils or preferably near the ECU (da komputer under the seat). Use a tap, not a splice. Worst case use something like the ubiquitous blue 'Scotch Lock' taco style taps or the vastly better Posi-Lock (available from many sources, this link is only for informational purposes )

You want to tap the Yellow brake wire, this is the wire associated with the front and rear brake switches, the Blue wire is only for the steady tail lights.

 

[bandit]

I got the coil wire figured out, I went to the rear post. I attached the purpe and red to each of the rear brake light wires. I can get power to the control pad, But when I ride it I turn the CC on I get the light showing it as on, But it doesnt work. I used this link.

https://www.fjr1300.info/howto/audiovox.html

I did not hook my lights to the front blinker, I used a switched one that runs my driving lights when the bike is powered up. Do I need to unhook one of the wires from the rear brake light wires?

Thank in advance for all the help.

 

[wfooshee]

Confusion is present when you say "each of the brake light wires."

You should be connecting at the brake light switch on the right side of the bike, not the actual lamps. The connector for the switch, at the rear brake, has a yellow and a brown wire. Purple from the cruise goes to the yellow, and the red wire from the CC goes to the brown.

The brown wire is 12 volts keyed. The yellow wire is grounded with the brake off, and 12 volts with the brakes on. If it doesn't ground, the CC will not set. It thinks the brakes are on if as little as 5 or 6 volts are present on the purple wire.

Some of the LED brake light kits require that you add a relay to this circuit to allow the purple wire to get 0 volts when the brakes are off.

If you connected at the lamps instead, expecting the CC to detect 12 volts as the indicator of brake action, it won't work. The 12 volts must be present at all times on the red wire to the CC. When the purple wire gets 12 volts instead of 0, that's when the CC sees the brakes as "on." That signal comes from the other side of the brake light switch from the bulbs.

Red wire must have 12 volts always, purple wire must have 0 volts to set the cruise, and the cruise will disengage when voltage is detected on the purple wire.

 

[ionbeam]

At the Brown connector, the AVCC Red wire should connect to the FJR's Brown wire, or any other ignition switched power source with a constant 12 volts. At the Brown connector, the AVCC Purple wire should connect to the FJR's Yellow wire.

Did you pop the key pad apart and seal it? Did you leave the 'filter' on the AVCC Blue wire intact? The filter on the Blue wire will have a short red sleeve.

The AVCC Gray back-light wire should be connected to any ignition switched power source.

There a a pair of Gray and Black wires with spade connectors, insulate and leave unconnected to anything.

 

[bandit]

So let me ask this for troubleshootiung purposes, If I hook the red up to my fuse block adn leave the purple discopnnected, Will teh cruse arm if its installed properly? I would never dream of leaving ti this way, But it it would arm if the system was otherwisw hooked up correctly, I might try that. I am goin out to the shop to check my wiring on the rear brake switch. Thanks for all the help, I am not out of the woods yet though.

 

[bandit]

I left the filter installed, I cannto find this cbrown connector, I might be on the wrong wires, Mine has ABS so on the rigth hand side under the cover I have the ABS system. I will go look around.

 

[bandit]

I found the connector, Its the same wire I tapped into but I tapped in on the left hand side. I ran my read to 12 volts and verified my purple wire gets 12 volts only when the brake is applied. I opened up the servo again adn checked, removed the jumper , and I have switch #1 , switch #4 , and switch 7 are in the up on position. on, Everything else is off. Maybe I am on the wrong side of the coil???Should the red light in the servo be one when power is on? Am I correct that the up position is on?

 

[bandit]

I ytied the other side of the coil with no improvement, I am going to recheck all my conncections , adn make sure everything is tight, I went thru the book to try to identify which way is on for the switches in the servo , I believe they go up. Not 100% but there is a small printed "on" near the upper side so I assume thats on. I am at a loss. My red light in my servo isnt on either.

 

[wfooshee]

Does the keypad power light (in the center) turn on when you press the ON button and go out when you press OFF?

(If it comes to it, and you don't mind a bit of a ride, I'm in Panama City. "Only" about 3 hours for you.)

 

[bandit]

Yes I am getting power to the pad, Also getting the center light when I turn the CC on, I looked in the servo adn I am getting the LED within a few second of powring it up adn arming the cruise.. I am done test rifing tonight, I am going to recheck all my connections and put a few pieces back together. If I dont get ti tomorrow i may take you up on the offer, 3 hours is almost enough to get my oil to operating temp. :lol:

Any other ideas?

 

[Patriot]

my idea/suggestion is to go to Panama City like I did and Walter's (WFooshee) garage Feejer farkle workshop.

he's VERY accomodating as long as you keep him fed good restaurant meals and DON'T touch or googoo eye his wife.

but, sneak a peek every once in awhile...she's very nice and is a blonde gymnast - still blonde and gymnastics athlete in college...need I say more...

Cheers,

Mike in Nawlins'

Hey Walter, damn, you found your Feejer spark plug wrench...damn, I guess the one I recently sold on ebay was mine :dribble:

Hey guys, if ya'll get together in FL, let me know...I'll take a ride to visit and hang out if I'm free...and I'll behave myself

Maybe we can fit in a trip to the Navy Air Museum in Pensacola somewhere

 

[bandit]

I may have found a problem. I was going thru the troubleshooting everything was checking out till I checked the green wire, Book says it should show 0 volts when depressed adn 12 when released. Mine is doint the exact opposite, Might have a faulty unit. I checked everything else off the book and it checks out. I am going to check on the website adn see if I can find anything.

 

[fjrb0]

my idea/suggestion is to go to Panama City like I did and Walter's (WFooshee) garage Feejer farkle workshop.
he's VERY accomodating as long as you keep him fed good restaurant meals and DON'T touch or googoo eye his wife.

but, sneak a peek every once in awhile...she's very nice and is a blonde gymnast - still blonde and gymnastics athlete in college...need I say more...

Cheers,

Mike in Nawlins'

Hey Walter, damn, you found your Feejer spark plug wrench...damn, I guess the one I recently sold on ebay was mine :dribble:

Hey guys, if ya'll get together in FL, let me know...I'll take a ride to visit and hang out if I'm free...and I'll behave myself

Maybe we can fit in a trip to the Navy Air Museum in Pensacola somewhere

Oops, just got back!!!

 

[bandit]

Oops, just got back!!!

Been there many times, But how does this help with my Cruise control problem?

 

[ionbeam]

I found the connector, Its the same wire I tapped into but I tapped in on the left hand side. I ran my read to 12 volts and verified my purple wire gets 12 volts only when the brake is applied. I opened up the servo again adn checked, removed the jumper , and I have switch #1 , switch #4 , and switch 7 are in the up on position. on, Everything else is off. Maybe I am on the wrong side of the coil???Should the red light in the servo be one when power is on? Am I correct that the up position is on?

The coil connection must be either the Orange or Gray/Red wire, the Red/Black wire is 12 volts all the time.

You confirmed that the black jumper to the left of the connector in the servo unit is removed. Good.

I may have found a problem. I was going thru the troubleshooting everything was checking out till I checked the green wire, Book says it should show 0 volts when depressed adn 12 when released. Mine is doint the exact opposite

If switch #6 isn't fully OFF the voltage will be backwards, it is the job of switch #6 to invert the voltage. Try toggling switch position #6 ON and OFF again to be sure it is fully OFF.

 

[bandit]

I removed teh brake purple wire to eliminate it. Cruise still not working, I have the red wire for the brake system ran straight to 12 volts. I spoke with the tech from AV this AM, He said the servo LED should blink constant when the bike is running, Thats how you know your getting a tach signal. mine is not blinking when attached to either post.

 

[ionbeam]

The Purple brake wire must be connected for the AVCC to work. If you want to eliminate the Purple wire <<DANGER>> ground the wire to a known good ground. THIS WILL PREVENT THE AVCC FROM TURNING OFF WHEN YOU USE EITHER BRAKE. You will have to use the ON/OFF on the key pad to turn off the cruise or pull in the clutch <</DANGER>> The Purple wire must be 0 volts when the brake is not active, even a small amount of voltage on this wire will prevent the AVCC from working.

 

[bandit]

The Purple brake wire must be connected for the AVCC to work. If you want to eliminate the Purple wire <<DANGER>> ground the wire to a known good ground. THIS WILL PREVENT THE AVCC FROM TURNING OFF WHEN YOU USE EITHER BRAKE. You will have to use the ON/OFF on the key pad to turn off the cruise or pull in the clutch <</DANGER>> The Purple wire must be 0 volts when the brake is not active, even a small amount of voltage on this wire will prevent the AVCC from working.

I will ground the purple and try again.

Here is my question. If I start the bike and the CC has not been activated, Should the LED on the servo be on? Or odoes it come on with just the switch?

P.S. Done ever call AV asking for any help whatsoever. Ignorant clowns.