You keep your cell phone on your person for safety, but do you do this?

[SacramentoMike]

". . . How about an oversized, bright red zipper pull? Maybe even with Emergency or ICE imprinted on it. Thinking here about those novelty "Remove Before Flight" tags. It would be functional as a zipper pull, can be used with any gear you have and what may be best of all, would allow the rider to choose what pocket he/she would like to use for holding the info."

OK, Big Ogre, that's a hell of a good idea. And here's what I'm going to do. My wife has an embroidery machine that she uses for all kinds of things, usually putting designs or names on towels or pillowcases for gifts (or most every riding t-shirt I own), but she can--and agrees to--make up a bunch of exactly what you're talking about. I even have one of the "Remove Before Flight" key fobs that I showed her and she said "easy." She'll just make some up (they'll just say "I.C.E.") and put a grommet in the end for a key ring. I've even got a box of grommets out there right now from some job I did a while back and only needed one of them. I'll leave it up to anybody who asks to figure out how to attach it to the zipper pull on your own jacket--a split ring or whatever.

If anybody's interested I'll start a separate thread to tell the folks about it. They won't cost enough to bother with; I'll just stick 'em in an envelope and send you one. I'll take a picture of the first one and post it asap.

 

[Wlfman]

FWIW, I can say that even on the other side of the country, the picture HRZ paints is spot on. While all should obviously try to see the big picture, each first responder has a role and his/her actions will probably be geared towards accomplishing the tasks they're responsible for. I say that though from the viewpoint of an urban/suburban response and wonder if some of the roles don't overlap more in a rural/remote area.
I would like to add one thought here. While training of PO's and EMS personnel will tell them not to assume the obvious, it's hard not to jump to conclusions say, for instance, when you pull up to a bike laying outside a curve and the rider down. Hopefully though your rescuers will consider the not so obvious and look for any possible underlying causes to the incident. This is probably preaching to the choir but should you happen to have any atypical medical concerns, eg. implants, seizures, medical allergies or anything else you might imagine being engraved on a medical-alert tag, this info is most likely more important to relay on than your spouse's work number. Even an updated list of current medications would be worthwhile to the hospital physician. But as HRZ alluded to, most field personnel are not going to take the time to search for this. If you would like something known, make it in-your-face noticeable and easy to quickly access.

Re. that Aerostich sleeve. That's really nothing more than a red pocket. How about an oversized, bright red zipper pull? Maybe even with Emergency or ICE imprinted on it. Thinking here about those novelty "Remove Before Flight" tags. It would be functional as a zipper pull, can be used with any gear you have and what may be best of all, would allow the rider to choose what pocket he/she would like to use for holding the info.

Actually its an add on that has waterproof paper in it that you write your info on. Also it can be placed anywhere by sewing a strip of the "female" Velcro to the garment. Or in the case of hard surface (helmet) adhesive backed "female" Velcro strip. It has EMERGENCY MEDICAL INFORMATION printed on it and if an EMS/First responder doesn't see it, they don't need to be driving much less providing medical assistance.

 

[HotRodZilla]

Ooooh. I like the red tag zipper idea. Then maybe those EMS dorks will use the zipper instead of cutting off a $300-$400 jacket. Lol...But maybe not.

I have a friend who got into a motorcycle crash a year or two ago. He's still pissed about his expensive boots being cut off. Oh well, his feet were ok, so I guess they did the job.

 

[HotRodZilla]

SAC MIKE...I WANT ONE!!!

Yes, I'm yelling.

 

[majicmaker]

SAC MIKE...I WANT ONE!!!Yes, I'm yelling.

ME TOO!!!

 

[escapefjrtist]

Nice idea with the zipper pulls BigOgre!

SacMike...let us know when production ramps up -- I'd like one too!

--G

 

[zzzzip]

I ordered a few of these for me and gifts for my friends: www.theicedevice.com

It was reviewed in Rider a while back.

 

[SacramentoMike]

SAC MIKE...I WANT ONE!!!

ME TOO!!!

SacMike...let us know when production ramps up -- I'd like one too!

OK, cool. I'll get a production line going and get hold of you guys. And anybody else who posts about it or PMs me.

 

[dcarver]

Me tooo!

Nice offer, Mikee! :applaud:

 

[scubatech]

When I crashed a few years back my puched a hole in my ribs. I used to carry it in the breast pocket but now it lives in the glove box.

Your what punched a hole in your ribs?

I really proof read that well didn't I?? It was on my 2005 FJR,dog slammed into my front tire full speed from the side and flipped us. I had the cell in the inner pocket of my jacket so it put a nice hole in ribs. Anything can happen so I'm being more careful of what I carry on me. The saddle bags stayed on & glove box stayed closed for a 100 foot flight. Those bag mounts are pretty good!!

 

[Fred W]

I too think the red zipper pull would be a good idea.

I wouldn't put a grommet on the end though. Just a slit, so the free end can be stuck through the zipper tab and pulled through the hole. Aerostich makes some like this with just their logo on it. Linky

If something like this became really popular then maybe the EMSes would be looking for the red tabs and they would become even more effective. And while you think that it may not be worth the effort to ask anything for them in the near term, Mike, you also might want to do a quick back of the napkin business plan on what something like this might be worth. Package the zipper pull with a small vinyl waterproof ziplock type bag with a card or cards to fill out, to be put in the red tagged pocket?

Oh. and I definitely want a few. I have more than one jacket!

 

[AVGeek]

SAC MIKE, COUNT ME IN TOO!

Yes I yelled on purpose

 

[SacramentoMike]

I too think the red zipper pull would be a good idea.
I wouldn't put a grommet on the end though. Just a slit, so the free end can be stuck through the zipper tab and pulled through the hole. Aerostich makes some like this with just their logo on it. Linky

If something like this became really popular then maybe the EMSes would be looking for the red tabs and they would become even more effective. And while you think that it may not be worth the effort to ask anything for them in the near term, Mike, you also might want to do a quick back of the napkin business plan on what something like this might be worth. Package the zipper pull with a small vinyl waterproof ziplock type bag with a card or cards to fill out, to be put in the red tagged pocket?

Oh. and I definitely want a few. I have more than one jacket!

Feel free to remove the grommet, Fred. But these would have to be bigger to have enough room to embroider the letters on, and be obvious to rescuers. I got some little nylon/velcro tabs like you're talking about at a bike show once, but they're just to let you grab the zipper with gloves on. Way too small to show up for rescuers to notice.

Who knows, if folks like them, maybe I'll see if any of the local bike shops want to have some as give-aways or even to sell. I'd sell some to them.

 

[tcfjr]

Great idea, SactoMike - please count me in...

 

[SacramentoMike]

They're here! Well, the first batch, and they came out ok. You guys will have to PM me your mailing addy and I'll get one on the way. You guys who want two or three, hmmm. I'll do it for you guys who've already asked, but I think I'll ask folks to just move the damn thing from one jacket to another.

(edit--some of you ride with your S.O. or somebody. Feel free to ask for one for her. Or him. I don't judge.) The tags look about like this (with a few connector ideas): BTW, I think the white shows up best, after trying the gold, but first one who wants that one can have it. And don't forget to make up an emergency info card to put in the pocket with the tag.

 

[James Burleigh]

What a great idea! I keep my wallet in one of my thousands of Aerostitch pockets. As I like to say, "I have more pockets than chuckles the clown." Does the author of this insightful post get one?

And when's someone from NorCal gonna organize a #$%*&@ ride anyhow?

 

[Monty]

Very good info. Thanks, Hans.

 

[SacramentoMike]

What a great idea! I keep my wallet in one of my thousands of Aerostitch pockets. As I like to say, "I have more pockets than chuckles the clown." Does the author of this insightful post get one?

And when's someone from NorCal gonna organize a #$%*&@ ride anyhow?

If the author of this insightful post sends me a freaking address, yes he does. Of the 35--count 'em--35 PMs that came in this morning (yikes!), zero from you, Chuckles.

I can't organize a game of catch, myself. If you organize one, Hans, I'll hand you an ICE tag. If it's nearby, anyway. And I don't have some other plan that day, and all.

Gotta go. I'm in production mode.

 

[crumpadump]

Hey SacroMike what a great idea, are you going to make more tags? I'd love to have one too, I'll even send a stamped self addressed envelope...

 

[SacramentoMike]

Hey SacroMike what a great idea, are you going to make more tags? I'd love to have one too, I'll even send a stamped self addressed envelope...

Just send a PM with your addy, Crump. Or Dump.

I've even upgraded them. See the other thread (think it'll be post no. 26).