Escort Passport - Laser False alarms

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Fred W

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So a few years ago I bought a refurb Escort Passport 8500 radar detector, and since then, I've become a total convert. Knowing where the police are clocking your speeds by radar is so awesome. I'm sure that mine has saved me a number of tickets, as most of the back roads po-po just cruise around with the radar blasting, letting you know their every where-about.

One little "issue" that had cropped up as the unit aged was I noticed that I was getting some really weird false laser alerts on the detector. Like I'd be cruising down the Kank at FJR nominal 20 over and round a corner in the woods and BEEEP!! For those of you familiar with the laser alarm on the passport, that can be abit unsettling as the laser alert starts at maximum volume and the rails off, under the assumption that, if it's detecting a real LIDAR gun, it's probably already too late.

But I'd look around and conclude that there was really no way that there was anything shooting LIDAR on that rural stretch of roadways and the RD was just goofin' me. I did some intarwebs searching and apparently this is a fairly common observation with this particular group of Escort models (not sure it it applies to the 95XX series but I'm guessing it may. So after lots of Googleage, I finally found a theory that makes the most sense. The theory is that the laser detector in these units is a very finicky and sensitive sensor. If you open your unit up and snoop around you'll see that it is shielded inside a little grounded shield box. But that box is only grounded by some bent and crimped tangs of the box, which may not be adequate.

Well, I've got me some little screwdrivers and tools, let's get a lookie-loo:

Cracking the case open is pretty intuitive. Here's the component side of the main circuit board

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The large gray metal unit that takes most of the real estate is the super-hetero-dyne radar receiver sensor. You'll notice that on this model the horn receiver faces forward so it is only sensitive to radar from in front, or whatever bounces at you from in front. The silver cage with the R15 hand written annotation is the cover over the laser sensor.

Now here's the back side of the board:

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The four philips head screws on this side hold the super-het on the other side. But the silver metal shield is on the back side of the laser sensor, supporting the idea that it may be hyper sensitive to outside interference. Also note that there are little tangs coming from the box shield on the component side pasing thru to the back and that they are just bent over to secrure that front side box shield. Only one of those tabs (on the far right) is actually soldered to the shield on this side to provide a good ground bond.

When I wiggled the box on the component side it was clear that it could move around a small amount. That movement, under the vibration of a motorcycle, might be just what is required to allow outside interference inside the Faraday shielding of these grounded boxes and plates.

Using a flat blade screw driver and holding the box tight to the component side, I firmly crimped each of the tangs on the back side, and then, after insuring the shield was now tightly captured, I soldered every one of the tangs to the back side shield plate, here:

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I made this mod a couple of months ago, but since the false laser alerts were intermittent (though clearly were increasing in frequency and annoyance), I wanted to wait a good long while before declaring victory. I'm happy to report that I have not had a single false laser alert since the mod.

Hope that helps out some other Escort Passport users.

 
Fred . . . sometimes you simply amaze me with the amount of technical gobily **** you harbor in your cranium . . .

Now to come up with a fix for the 8500x to stop going off whan I come up on the fancy new vehicle with the lane/car sensors on them . . . makes me batty . . .

 
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For anyone thinking about trying this, should we worry about electro-static discharge when we open up the covers and handle the board?

 
Thanks for posting up the how-to on this Fred. After multiple false lazer alerts, I just defeated the Lazer function as I'm in the camp that believes you'll probably see the LEO (if practicing proper scanning) before he gets a good lock on you and the Lazer alert would just confirm you need to pull over to receive your award. Please keep us all updated as to how this fix works out in the long run.

 
After multiple false lazer alerts, I just defeated the Lazer function as I'm in the camp that believes you'll probably see the LEO (if practicing proper scanning) before he gets a good lock on you and the Lazer alert would just confirm you need to pull over to receive your award.
But, but, butt, it's FUN to get the heart rate up just to realize it's a false alarm! :lol:

 
Fred, thanks for the write up.

I stopped using the Laser function after receiving a LIDAR ticket from a LEO hiding on an overpass (could not be seen) and the Laser detection feature serving only to remind me to pull over so he could give me a ticket.

Ever since then I've turned off the Laser function and upgraded my anti-LEO defenses to include a LASER Jammer. There is really no substitute for a Laser Jammer to keep you safe from LIDAR.

That one ticket I had to pay to some piss-ant little county in GA that I-75 briefly crosses was about the equivalent of the price of the Laser Jammer setup (after also needing to engage the services of a "local" traffic lawyer to help knock down the speed so that my home State would not be notified of the infraction).

I'm happy to report that for the past 3+ years I've not had to pay any LIDAR generated roadside taxes, even though I've gone past many LIDAR traps, most of which were well enough camouflaged to ensure that I would not have seen them in time.

 
Fred, thanks for the write up.

I stopped using the Laser function after receiving a LIDAR ticket from a LEO hiding on an overpass (could not be seen) and the Laser detection feature serving only to remind me to pull over so he could give me a ticket.

Ever since then I've turned off the Laser function and upgraded my anti-LEO defenses to include a LASER Jammer. There is really no substitute for a Laser Jammer to keep you safe from LIDAR.

That one ticket I had to pay to some piss-ant little county in GA that I-75 briefly crosses was about the equivalent of the price of the Laser Jammer setup (after also needing to engage the services of a "local" traffic lawyer to help knock down the speed so that my home State would not be notified of the infraction).

I'm happy to report that for the past 3+ years I've not had to pay any LIDAR generated roadside taxes, even though I've gone past many LIDAR traps, most of which were well enough camouflaged to ensure that I would not have seen them in time.
Do tell! What kind of Laser jammer are you using?

 
Fred, thanks for the write up.

I stopped using the Laser function after receiving a LIDAR ticket from a LEO hiding on an overpass (could not be seen) and the Laser detection feature serving only to remind me to pull over so he could give me a ticket.

Ever since then I've turned off the Laser function and upgraded my anti-LEO defenses to include a LASER Jammer. There is really no substitute for a Laser Jammer to keep you safe from LIDAR.

That one ticket I had to pay to some piss-ant little county in GA that I-75 briefly crosses was about the equivalent of the price of the Laser Jammer setup (after also needing to engage the services of a "local" traffic lawyer to help knock down the speed so that my home State would not be notified of the infraction).

I'm happy to report that for the past 3+ years I've not had to pay any LIDAR generated roadside taxes, even though I've gone past many LIDAR traps, most of which were well enough camouflaged to ensure that I would not have seen them in time.
Do tell! What kind of Laser jammer are you using?
As I mentioned my setup is a few years old now, so there is a newer and better model, but mine still works well enough...

I'm running the Blinder M25 X-Treme Laser Jammer

There are now a number of good Laser Jammers around, and the latest offering from Bliner is the the BLINDER M27. From memory this new model supports USB firmware upgrades, and has other cool new features.

 
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I believe that Jammers, being transmitters, are regulated by the FCC, which would make it a federal offense (not being licensed to transmit at that frequency). If one were riding in an area that uses LIDAR a lot, it would probably still be worth the risk to avoid a ticket. While there are some places (where using a radar detector is illegal like VA and Wash DC) that the cops run radar detector detectors (they sniff out leakage from your RD) I've never heard of a LIDAR jammer detector. Yet.

I was just at the point of disabling the Laser alarm feature on my 8500 to prevent the false alarms when I stumbled onto this potential "fix". It has been 2 months now of regular use and no false alarms. Just prior to the fix I had been getting them daily. On one ride I was getting them every 10-15 minutes. :angry:

A little more history on this: About a year and a half ago I started getting them regularly and opened up the RD and snooped around did a little light cleaning and blew the circuit board, super-het and laser sensor off with compressed air. Snapped it back together and the false alarms seemed to go away. For a while, then gradually they came back to the most recent frequency reported above. So yeah, a long term test of this fix is surely warranted. I'll definitely report if they come back. At that point I'll probably just disable it.

Geezers point is well taken. Clearly there are sensitive electronics on the circuit board of these things. If you do not know what anti-static / ESD measures are called for, you probably shouldn't be inside there mucking around, or else you may disable all the alarm features of the RD when you let the magic out. :p

 
So my question is why hasn't Escort (the company) figured out the solution to this?
To what? These false alarms?

This is on an 8500. I'm not sure if the issue carries forward to more current models.

The 8500 is definitely obsolete in their eyes, and I doubt they would invest too much engineering time into fixing an obsolete product, but still works great for me.

 
There are no federal laws about laser jammers, however there are some states that have laws against jammers. The FCC doesn't regulate the light spectrum, oddly it is the Food and Drug Administration.

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Be aware that several types of laser guns are able to issue a jamming alert to the officer and let him/her know that the target vehicle is using a jamming device. In a ***-for-tat war, some newer jammers attempt to minimize error codes on the police laser guns.

In addition to what Fred says about soldering the shield, I have also tuned up a few 8500s by cleaning them.

 
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So my question is why hasn't Escort (the company) figured out the solution to this?
To what? These false alarms?

This is on an 8500. I'm not sure if the issue carries forward to more current models.

The 8500 is definitely obsolete in their eyes, and I doubt they would invest too much engineering time into fixing an obsolete product, but still works great for me.
So, no false alarms since the fix? Any real alarms? i.e. Is it fixed or broken with respect to laser detection? Any way to test it?

Ross

Edit: Just re-read my response and it could be taken the wrong way. Not meaning to be critical at all! Lot of stuff out there may be excellent in terms of design but may fail in an application like MC with vibration, exposure to the elements etc. Age can also take its toll with minor oxidation of grounds/contacts. Often a fix like the one Fred has done can bring a unit back to within original design parameters (or even better). Just wondering if there is any way of testing it. I would hate to find out its not working at all (for laser detection) by getting a performance award.

RK

 
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Hi guys. Ex-FJR now Wing guy. I installed a Qi45 Escort (based on the 8500 I think) on my wing a few months ago and had the exact same problem. Laser alerts constantly. I finally turned Laser off. I may look into this fix for mine. It's good to look on other boards, never know what you will find! thanks for posting this fix.

 
There is also a common issue with Escort detectors where they give false laser warnings when you accelerate. Apparently they are sensitive to voltage changes. This is talked about in many places in the forums. A couple weeks ago I found a FAQ on the ESCORT site that said they had a microcode fix for this and you can send it in and get the fix. I can't find that FAQ today.

 
I believe that Jammers, being transmitters, are regulated by the FCC, which would make it a federal offense (not being licensed to transmit at that frequency).
oddly enough laser is under the umbrella of the FDA and there are no current federal laws against laser jammers.

 

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