'06 performance

[tripletango]

The weight issue 05 abs vs 06 abs - 05 vs 05abs etc etc. yada yada. These bike is damn fast any way you look at it. Just how often do you hammer the bike through the gears? How often is that 10th of a second difference going to change your life?

The FJR is a fantastic bike and the 12,000 miles I have put on my 05 have convinced me that even if the 06 is maybe just that little bit heavier it is going to be a better bike.

I ordered an AE cause if I am hammering the bike just one little bobbled gear shift and the other dude has got you!

The AE turns you into the perfect power shifting honker and I bet that in 99 percent of drags with another FJR extra weight or not the AE will kick ass!! whoop whoop

 

[dcarver]

From what I've seen of MOST FJ pilots, the weight differential could EASILY be made up by putting the pilot on diet..

Thus saving money for more FJ farkles.

All of which add weight..

Of course, if you are serious about reducing weight, use the Rollie Free method!

Signed - Living in a Glass House..

 

[tripletango]

Totally true. I need to lose that 25 lbs anyway!

 

[Bounce]

Totally true. I need to lose that 25 lbs anyway!

What is this "FJ" of which you speak?

I looked at my FJR and it doesn't have a chain or anything else what would indicate it be such a beastie.

 

[petey]

How will the taller gearing effect the top end of the '06? Will it top out higher than previous models?

 

[Centerline]

The weight issue 05 abs vs 06 abs - 05 vs 05abs etc etc. yada yada. These bike is damn fast any way you look at it. Just how often do you hammer the bike through the gears? How often is that 10th of a second difference going to change your life?The FJR is a fantastic bike and the 12,000 miles I have put on my 05 have convinced me that even if the 06 is maybe just that little bit heavier it is going to be a better bike.

I ordered an AE cause if I am hammering the bike just one little bobbled gear shift and the other dude has got you!

The AE turns you into the perfect power shifting honker and I bet that in 99 percent of drags with another FJR extra weight or not the AE will kick ass!! whoop whoop

Actually, I hammer the machine through gears 2, 3 and 4quite often. I am sort of an acceleration junkie. I particularly enjoy initiating a pass of a cager or any Harley at about 55-60 mph by downshifting to 3rd and blasting around, it gives me a real thrill. I don't much enjoy hammering the beast in first tho, cause I am a litle afraid of the rising front wheel

 

[torch]

I suspect the subjective impression off the line will be similar to the earlier models. Yamaha didn't just change the final ratio, they also played with the throttle mechanism. It's been reworked to give a faster throttle response in the initial twist, tapering off at the end of the travel. The earlier FJRs had a linear relationship between throttle and grip so this should compensate for the taller gearing and increased weight by giving it more throttle for the same wrist rotation. Initially anyway.

Downside? Possibly worse surge issues (unless the reworked FI has that licked). Possibly less impressive feel during a high speed roll-on.

 

[Wildcat48]

O.K. So maybe I should lose 100 lbs and keep the '05, then I'll have a chance of keeping up with the auto clutch version.

Tripletango, be sure to let us all know how you like the AE. (I'm chicken to try new technology that does not have a track record.)

Petey, it makes sense that the '06 might have a higher top speed, but I'm never gonna find out. I've never gotten close to top speed on my '05. I think, if you are of a mind to wind it out to warp speed, you should do it on a track. Usually, when I see the speedo needle inching past 110, I start hearing nagging little voices telling me to slow down.

Centerline, I can relate. (Passing in 3rd gear makes other vehicles look like they are in reverse!) The awesome acceleration is really FUN, hence my concern about the '06 being slower. Who wants to give up ANY of that raw power . . . even if it's just a smidgen? It's like asking a fighter jet pilot if he would mind going with a smaller afterburner. You just don't do that.

 

[Centerline]

O.K. So maybe I should lose 100 lbs and keep the '05, then I'll have a chance of keeping up with the auto clutch version.Tripletango, be sure to let us all know how you like the AE. (I'm chicken to try new technology that does not have a track record.)

Petey, it makes sense that the '06 might have a higher top speed, but I'm never gonna find out. I've never gotten close to top speed on my '05. I think, if you are of a mind to wind it out to warp speed, you should do it on a track. Usually, when I see the speedo needle inching past 110, I start hearing nagging little voices telling me to slow down.

Centerline, I can relate. (Passing in 3rd gear makes other vehicles look like they are in reverse!) The awesome acceleration is really FUN, hence my concern about the '06 being slower. Who wants to give up ANY of that raw power . . . even if it's just a smidgen? It's like asking a fighter jet pilot if he would mind going with a smaller afterburner. You just don't do that.

+1

 

[tripletango]

Here is a post by Twister on another FJR board. My thanks to Twister for such a great description and I hope he does not mind me posting it here.

Sequential Manual Gearbox

Ferrari introduced the notion of modern sequential manual gearboxes on production street machines when it first developed its F1 system for the '95 F355. Similar high-tech race-inspired trannies are now offered by other manufacturers, too. BMW's recently launched this technology on the M3 and has even trademarked the acronym SMG. Other terms frequently applied are "electrohydraulically controlled manual" and "clutchless manual." A mouthful at best, we can see why BMW picked SMG.

True to its name, the sequential manual gearbox is, from an architectural and engineering standpoint, a true manual transmission. Though there's no clutch pedal, there's definitely a clutch (and some form of flywheel, pressure plate, and throw-out bearing). Depending on the manufacturer, gear shifting is via paddles on the steering column, buttons on the steering wheel, a shifter on the floor, or some combination of the three. But these are merely switches: Computers, solenoids, hydraulics, and some pretty fancy linkage do the shifting.

When a Ferrari driver wants to upshift, he pulls the appropriate paddle. In 25-50 milliseconds (depending on how aggressive a shift is mandated by throttle position, rpm, and other factors), the system backs off the throttle, engages the clutch, makes the shift, disengages the clutch, and reapplies the gas. The best of these systems can execute this mechanical ballet faster than most humans can--without a possible missed shift. The action is much the same for a downshift; virtually all these systems can add in a "throttle blip," so the engine revs can be matched to the lower gear ratio for a smooth shift. They can make everyone look like a great "driver."

All these setups contain safety overrides to ensure the driver knows what gear he's in and won't allow an engine-damaging command. There's also Reverse, of course, and most offer some combination of Winter, Sport, and fully automatic modes. A major advantage of a sequential manual gearbox is that it suffers none of the power-robbing hydraulic losses often associated with conventional, torque converter-equipped automatics. In the case of the new Ferrari 575M Maranello, for example, the company's test numbers show that the F1-system-equipped car can accelerate quicker than one with a conventional six-speed manual gearbox. In this showdown, the computer proves quicker

Yamaha Chip Controlled shifting (YCC-S) is an industry first on a sport touring machine. The most noticeable difference is the lack of a clutch lever on the FJR1300AE. The YCC-S system uses two electronically controlled actuators … one for the clutch and one for shifting. The rider has the option of shifting with via a conveniently located handlebar switch or using the conventional foot shifter. The big difference is there is no clutching involved. Shift changes are much smoother than a conventional manual clutch system and the foot shifter effort has been greatly reduced with this new system. The benefit is improved rider comfort do to the elimination of clutch hand fatigue especially in stop and go traffic plus reduced foot shifter effort. NOTE: This system is not an automatic shift system … the rider still must shift the bike, but without worrying about the clutch

 

[Wildcat48]

Very interesting, all that stuf about the auto shift version. Maybe this version will be faster?

 

[tripletango]

Think you are right. The extra 18 lbs of the electric clutch ain't gonna slow me down. Perfect no wheel spin take offs plus instant full throttle gear shifts at precisely the rpm you choose means syonara dudes. whoop whoop!!!!!!!!!!

 

[RadioHowie]

What the heck is wheel spin?

Maybe I'm just too big a fatass and create too much traction. If I hammer it really, REALLY hard, the only wheel spinning is the one in front up in the air.

Maybe I oughta try sliding up TIGHT against the tank and hammering it and see what happens. Personally, I'd prefer a little wheelspin over a moon launch.