2005 gen1 copper connection to fuel pump elec. harness snapped off...

[Jabonkin]

Was cleaning all the tarnish off the fuel pump and housing today...and the little copper arm that connects to the fuel pump elec. harness snapped off. Can I resolder this after cleaning or is it possible to get a new wire harness??? The harness looks like a $10 piece but the parts diagram doesn't break down the components of the fuel pump. Desperate to get fixed ASAP, going on cross country trip in 3 1/2 weeks!

Thanks,

Jabonkin

 

[Fred W]

pics needed

 

[Jabonkin]

It doesn't make a difference...I was cleaning all the components of the fuel pump unit with hot water and Dawn soap, and the "Permanent filter" basically disintegrated. So...I ended up going on ebay and ordered a used pump for $150.00.

As a side query: With the amount of/and aging FJR engines and components...does anyone have an idea why the pump components aren't available individually, or will they ever be available either OEM or aftermarket? $500 for a new unit OR scrounging for a salvaged unit is for lack of a better descriptor...ASININE!

 

[ionbeam]

Based on the threads about fuel pump failures in this Forum it appears that the fuel pump and fuel gauge sending unit are very reliable making parts unnecessary. Most of the pump problems have been as a result of killing parts and not failures. There have been a bunch of broken fuel fittings by the owner's meddling, some electrical problems due to the owner's meddling and the very rare rust poisoning from a (wet) Fla owner, but the pump doesn't seem to wear out or the filter clog.

Yes it would be nice to have the parts available but evidently Yamaha considers the fuel pump to be a non serviceable part like the ECU, ABS and meter assembly.

 

[Jabonkin]

Here are the Pics...PRE and POST cleaning...

 

[Jabonkin]

Based on the threads about fuel pump failures in this Forum it appears that the fuel pump and fuel gauge sending unit are very reliable making parts unnecessary. Most of the pump problems have been as a result of killing parts and not failures. There have been a bunch of broken fuel fittings by the owner's meddling, some electrical problems due to the owner's meddling and the very rare rust poisoning from a (wet) Fla owner, but the pump doesn't seem to wear out or the filter clog.
Yes it would be nice to have the parts available but evidently Yamaha considers the fuel pump to be a non serviceable part like the ECU, ABS and meter assembly.

I appreciate the general assumption of operator error...but to generalize and state "owner meddling" is a little condescending at best! I'm fairly competent with working on a variety of items be it car, bike, house, etc;...have torn down and rebuilt both motorcycle and car engines in the past...not saying I'm infallible but at the very least A+ personality and extremely anal when it comes to procedures and the fragility of electrical components and their handling. With that being said...cleaning the severely clogged filter screen with water and soap...should not had the effect of disintegration. It seems as rare as a gas tank not being treated with a stabilizer...(sarcasm), something like the filter one would think...should be a individually replaceable item...just saying!

 

[ionbeam]

I had mentioned that one Forumite in Fla had a rusty, crusty fuel pump -- and now we have a second one. In your opening post I missed that you had a rust clogged fuel pump, the way I read 'tarnish' and the nasty red goo you had weren't the same.

You are exempted from the meddling group because it looks like you were trying to raise the dead (insert zombi icon here)

 

[Constant Mesh]

The pump and inlet strainer appear to be fairly standard items found in auto fuel tanks. The fuel filter on the outlet of the pump should be near the top of the assembly up above the pivot of the level sensor.

Don't see what's left of the outlet filter?

How long had it been sitting partially immersed in old gas? These centrifugal pumps are very sensitive to sitting inactive for long periods in old gas.

 

[Jabonkin]

Had prepped for a 2000 mile loop in 10/11 and ended up not being able to ride until now...so 2 1/2 years...

 

[Fred W]

I would blame that ugly pump situation on the inactivity and being (partially) bathed in fuel with 10% alcohol content. If it had been fully submerged in real gas (a nearly unobtainable commodity in these parts) it would have looked pristine and new.

You are lucky enough to be included in a club with Radio Howie (and nobody else that I am aware of). So sorry about that at several levels...

PS - I

I'd also do a careful inspection of the inside of your fuel tank. Plastic does not corrode to create ferrous oxide (rust)

 

[Jabonkin]

Yeah, I've learned a value added lesson last week that everyone needs to heed...If you even think you may not be riding for more than a month put the proverbial double jimmy hat on your bike and stabilize it or throw some techron in it, start it and run it at least once a week!

When I removed the tank and pulled the pump...On first inspection thought I was screwed with the condition of the inside. I washed it out twice with hot water and dawn, for the most part it's clean. Lot's of varnish and sediment flakes, but not rust. I blew it dry yesterday and will throw some tranny oil in it today to give it a coat...unless any of my info. compadres can suggest another alternative low cost protection.