70 speeding tickets in 5 months!
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I feel out of touch. I had not heard of speeding cameras. I knew of the red light cameras. Speeding cameras suck.
Rogue
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They are real big in the UK. Just starting to come here.
JimV
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I just spent a couple of weeks in Japan. My Japanese colleague had a solar powered radar detector in his Range Rover that also had a built in GPS and speed camera database. So, the thing would beep to warn you that you were approaching a speed camera. How cool is that?
I've also seen people add speed camera data to the navigation DVD's in their cars so they could see that they were approaching the camera.
Finally, places like radarbusters.com sell license plate covers that allegedly frustrate the ability of the cameras to take accurate pictures of your license plate. I'm not advocating this but I'd be looking into it if I lived someplace that had them.
Cheers,
Jim
I've also seen people add speed camera data to the navigation DVD's in their cars so they could see that they were approaching the camera.
Finally, places like radarbusters.com sell license plate covers that allegedly frustrate the ability of the cameras to take accurate pictures of your license plate. I'm not advocating this but I'd be looking into it if I lived someplace that had them.
Cheers,
Jim
worldbound4now
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Holy crap! Just think if they start putting those things between Tohopah and Ely NV..... so many triple digit tickets to mail out..... Maybe our schools would finally get some extra $$$.
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Toecutter
What would DoG do?
Wouldn't the camera need to hit you with radar or laser to find out if you are speeding, before taking your picture? I'm thinkin' a radar detector would pretty much take care of that issue.
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twowheelnut
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Yeah, that stretch of the 101 in Scottsdale has been making a lot of noise. Next up is they are to install db meters on those same cameras and start tagging the zoomie crowd.
The only upside to these robots is that they free up law enforcement to focus on catching the real bad guys. Other than that, slap a handful of mud on your plate and go nuts.
The only upside to these robots is that they free up law enforcement to focus on catching the real bad guys. Other than that, slap a handful of mud on your plate and go nuts.
Rogue
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Well some Brits have the right idea: One solution. :assassin: :assassin: :assassin: :assassin: :assassin: :assassin:
feejer222
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They are everywhere here in the UK. Supposed to be only where there are accident black spots. Quite often positioned 200 yards apart so that when you think you are through the zone and accelerate again the next one gets you, sometimes 3 at a time.
There are companies that sell sat-nav attatchments that show them and warn you about them. Of course this would be illegal, so they describe it as a black-spot-locating device. Turning it around on the cops.
evil_henchman
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Paintball guns were made for traffic cameras h34r:
Just remember that there's usually a hidden camera nearby looking for just that sort of thing. Extra points apply for "fixing" that one too.
h34r: Just remember that there's usually a hidden camera nearby looking for just that sort of thing. Extra points apply for "fixing" that one too.
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Feejer/Weejer man
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IIRC Garmin has a program that can be bought and loaded to alert you of these kind of traps. But I haven't checked on it yet.
I like that her last name is the same as one federal agency/department head that left under allegations of making false statements to federal officials.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Cisneros
Seems it might run in the bloodline.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Cisneros
Seems it might run in the bloodline.
JimV
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It looks as if there are both active (radar) and passive (inductive loops in the road or video triangulation) versions of the speed cameras
Given that, it would be nice to know where the damned things are.
The thing that I really don't like, having gotten a ticket from a red light camera in Louden County VA, is the elaborate legal scam they came up with to be able to fine you. Since you have the right to face your accuser and you can't cross examine a speed camera, these tickets are something short of a normal ticket and you don't get points for getting one, AFAIK. But you either pay the fine or sign an affadavit saying that you weren't the one driving at the time. Of course, making a false statement is a felony, so you either pay the fine or take your chances. I can't see where paying my attorney $350 would ever get me off the hook here. Of course, there really isn't any doubt that I was guilty. After all, they did have the freakin' picture of me doing it.
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fjrchooser
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Appears that the majority of those Gatsos where taken out by igniting an old tire hung around the camera housing.
FJR owners could be formidable foes the way we go through them !
FJR owners could be formidable foes the way we go through them !
weekend rider
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Wait until the cops figure out how to use GPS and give tickets. So everyone that has GPS and rides for fun , trips or a group ride there could be a ticket waiting for you at lunch where ever you are riding. Lets hope they do not monitor this forum so they know when some rides are taking place. All done with triangulations or a algebraic log rythym. What is next??????????
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worldbound4now
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Lay off the pot weekend rider. Hit up a nice whore out there and cool your nuts off a bit.
Dwavey
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We used to have those things here in British Columbia. Had them installed in unmarked mini-vans parked on the side of the road, supposedly in high accident areas (but just as often on the highway straightaways outside town along the commuter routes). Same deal as the other systems, radar picked up the speeder and clicked a picture of the back of the car and licence plate, owner received the ticket in the mail, only way out was to swear you weren't driving the vehicle and identify who was (who would then get the ticket). The ticket carried the same fine as if a LEO had caught you in person, and they started at 10km/h over - not sure if people were more pissed at the $115 fine for doing just 10 over or the fact that they wouldn't be aware of being caught for an infraction until the ticket arrived in the mail a month later and couldn't remember anything about the situation that they might possibly use to fight it or mitigate punishment.
To fix the problem of being able to face your accuser the province first put a LEO then a technician in the vans to testify that the equipment was working at the time and the photo was an accurate match to what the equipment recorded. The police got wise to those plate covers that obscured the licence plate to side pics really quick and started handing out tickets for using them. So if you didn't have a radar detector the only other way to avoid the ticket (other than being lucky enough for the pic to have some technical flaw) was to go by at the same time as another car travelling in the same direction so that the camera snapped a pic of both cars and plates - the system couldn't identify which one was the speeder.
It was really controversial - opponents came up with stats that showed it didn't lower speeds or reduce accidents, supporters brought forward their own numbers (lies, damn lies and statistics, eh?) - and ended up being an opposition party election platform promise. They won the election and got rid of them once they came to power, one of the few promises they did keep. There was a lot of opposition to getting rid of them, mostly from a couple of the bigger urban municipalities which wanted to also get hold of the fine $$'s - more proof that the system was more about raising revenue than traffic safety?
Anyway, we still have red light cameras at high accident intersections, and every now and again there's talk about bringing photo-radar back in some form, particularly when they talk about the street-racing problem. Doubt it will be back, at least with this government. But if our economy was to go down the toilet and the government needed something to generate revenue...
To fix the problem of being able to face your accuser the province first put a LEO then a technician in the vans to testify that the equipment was working at the time and the photo was an accurate match to what the equipment recorded. The police got wise to those plate covers that obscured the licence plate to side pics really quick and started handing out tickets for using them. So if you didn't have a radar detector the only other way to avoid the ticket (other than being lucky enough for the pic to have some technical flaw) was to go by at the same time as another car travelling in the same direction so that the camera snapped a pic of both cars and plates - the system couldn't identify which one was the speeder.
It was really controversial - opponents came up with stats that showed it didn't lower speeds or reduce accidents, supporters brought forward their own numbers (lies, damn lies and statistics, eh?) - and ended up being an opposition party election platform promise. They won the election and got rid of them once they came to power, one of the few promises they did keep. There was a lot of opposition to getting rid of them, mostly from a couple of the bigger urban municipalities which wanted to also get hold of the fine $$'s - more proof that the system was more about raising revenue than traffic safety?
Anyway, we still have red light cameras at high accident intersections, and every now and again there's talk about bringing photo-radar back in some form, particularly when they talk about the street-racing problem. Doubt it will be back, at least with this government. But if our economy was to go down the toilet and the government needed something to generate revenue...
Toecutter
What would DoG do?
Wait until the new cars come equipped with GPS and a ticket printer. As soon as you violate, your ticket spits itself out of the dash. It'll even work for stop signs.
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