Sorry, yes, I understood what you meant.
And yeah, those are the dog bones.
And yeah, those are the dog bones.
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epoche
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Fjrscocks,
Remarkable how vibration free your video is. Could you post pics of your camcorder set up. When I mount a Canon HD camcorder on handlebar ball I get unacceptable vibration.
Remarkable how vibration free your video is. Could you post pics of your camcorder set up. When I mount a Canon HD camcorder on handlebar ball I get unacceptable vibration.
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Hi epoche,
on my current bike I have got the same problem as you.
On the FJR the camera was mounted on the fuel tank. That was a very good solution:
Yeah, that looks pretty safe. I'm sure that wouldn't castrate you in a get off. 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpQn8cFDJKI&feature=youtu.be
Finally figured out how to show the picture
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GeorgiaRoller
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I pride & challange myself on staying in my own lane when riding the twisties. Even if I have clear vision of the road and "could" use the other lane to cut down the curve angle...I don't. I mainly choose to not use the other lane because I just don't want to develop any bad riding habits that might come back and bite me later. I feel like that's sloppy & dangerous riding. I have much, much more respect for riders that can ride fast BUT maintain their lane & hold consistent lines!
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Taking a corner from the opposite lane and coming out wide on the exit is simply straightening up the curves big time... no fun in that.
Here's one more for ya. Unedited and a little boring but a full run up 341 Push Mountain Rd in Arkansas. Watch out for my mid corner braking at about 4:45.... had a bad line/feel at that corner! 12 miles of nice road to yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwSiv9BK6W8
Here's one more for ya. Unedited and a little boring but a full run up 341 Push Mountain Rd in Arkansas. Watch out for my mid corner braking at about 4:45.... had a bad line/feel at that corner! 12 miles of nice road to yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwSiv9BK6W8
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Carlson,
I see now how you get rid of your tires so quickly. You're hard on the gas out of every corner.
Those were some pretty nice, clean sweepers. I could feel the pucker moment at 4:48 from here, even before I read your comment.
I see now how you get rid of your tires so quickly. You're hard on the gas out of every corner.
Those were some pretty nice, clean sweepers. I could feel the pucker moment at 4:48 from here, even before I read your comment.
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Hello my friend,
nice to hear from you!
Yes, the K1300S is doing fine. I now already have 35000 kilometers on it (~22000 miles).
And apart from one broken battery after 6 month, there was no other defect until now.
This year in September I will do a tour with other BMW-K-riders on this wonderful roads.
If you like you can go to this forum topic, but it's german language.
I will guide a group of more crazy K-drivers and we will do the same roads as on the videos.
In fact there will also be some Ducati drivers among them (which changed from BMW to Ducati).
See you,
Olli.
A question for you more spirited riders;
I just finished a four day trip. 30 hours in the saddle on my 05 FJR. Part of my ride took me to the Cherohala Skyway and deals gap. I was amazed at how fast some of the smaller bikes could make the corners and instantly knew that I could ride the corners better than I was riding them. In the dragon, After letting a few sportsbikes pass, a Harley V Rod Rider showed up in my rearview mirror. I let him pass but seeing that his bike was large and heavy like mine I decided to try to keep up with him to learn from his riding. I did pretty well. Clearly he knew the road well, I did not. He got away,cornering better than me, but I kept up by using my better Acceleration in the straightaways.
Watching how he used his brakes and how he powered out of turns guided me in handing it better.
So one of my question for you is how do I find my lean angle boundary without killing myself first. Those hairpins felt ridiculous, like I needed to start my line in the opposing lane, or like I'd have to lean so far and not be able to get the bike back upright. Looking at the markings on my tires Imused all but 3/4 inch of the Roadsmarts., I've never dragged any parts, mine or the bikes. And I was probably using 98% counter steering and 2% leaning. I really want to learn to ride this Yamaha better I didn't like watching the sports bikes disappear in front of me so easily. At one pont it seemed they must've driven off the edge. I can't believe how quickly they were able to,do that. .
On one hand it was a landmark ride just keeping up with the V Rob Rider. However, I I have watched the yellow gold wing video where a a biker through the entire Dragon going incredibly and unbelievably fast. Second questi: Am I incorrect in assuming that the FJR should handle at least as well as that Gold wing?. If that same biker was familiar with the FJR shouldn't he be able to ride the FJR at that same pace on the Dragon.
Not that I ever will do that. But I really want to understand just where the capabilities lie. You guys have explored the FJRs extremes. Caveat-I've never riden a SB, the FJR is my second bike, the first was a DL650 dual,sport. My body ailments wont allow me to ride a sports bike but FJR is comfortable and is probably as sporty as I will ever be able to get so I really want to ride this bike well. To me that means understanding exactly where its boundaries are. I'm pretty sure the bike will do all 180 mph listed on the speedometer but there is no lean angle gauge . Thanks.
I just finished a four day trip. 30 hours in the saddle on my 05 FJR. Part of my ride took me to the Cherohala Skyway and deals gap. I was amazed at how fast some of the smaller bikes could make the corners and instantly knew that I could ride the corners better than I was riding them. In the dragon, After letting a few sportsbikes pass, a Harley V Rod Rider showed up in my rearview mirror. I let him pass but seeing that his bike was large and heavy like mine I decided to try to keep up with him to learn from his riding. I did pretty well. Clearly he knew the road well, I did not. He got away,cornering better than me, but I kept up by using my better Acceleration in the straightaways.
Watching how he used his brakes and how he powered out of turns guided me in handing it better.
So one of my question for you is how do I find my lean angle boundary without killing myself first. Those hairpins felt ridiculous, like I needed to start my line in the opposing lane, or like I'd have to lean so far and not be able to get the bike back upright. Looking at the markings on my tires Imused all but 3/4 inch of the Roadsmarts., I've never dragged any parts, mine or the bikes. And I was probably using 98% counter steering and 2% leaning. I really want to learn to ride this Yamaha better I didn't like watching the sports bikes disappear in front of me so easily. At one pont it seemed they must've driven off the edge. I can't believe how quickly they were able to,do that. .
On one hand it was a landmark ride just keeping up with the V Rob Rider. However, I I have watched the yellow gold wing video where a a biker through the entire Dragon going incredibly and unbelievably fast. Second questi: Am I incorrect in assuming that the FJR should handle at least as well as that Gold wing?. If that same biker was familiar with the FJR shouldn't he be able to ride the FJR at that same pace on the Dragon.
Not that I ever will do that. But I really want to understand just where the capabilities lie. You guys have explored the FJRs extremes. Caveat-I've never riden a SB, the FJR is my second bike, the first was a DL650 dual,sport. My body ailments wont allow me to ride a sports bike but FJR is comfortable and is probably as sporty as I will ever be able to get so I really want to ride this bike well. To me that means understanding exactly where its boundaries are. I'm pretty sure the bike will do all 180 mph listed on the speedometer but there is no lean angle gauge . Thanks.
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wheatonFJR
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If you want to explore lean angles...do it on one of the track courses that Professionals put on occasionally. I know Bungie did one recently. Don't explore your limits on the street...or you will find it.
GeorgiaRoller
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Yes...without question!
Yes...all things being equal rider talent wise, IMO the FJR should outpace the bigger Wing. But don't judge yourself against faster & more experienced riders. Just work on improving yourself. Also it's not wise to try to keep pace with a faster rider beyond your comfort zone regardless of what type of bike he's on.
I respectfully disagree. I've never once been on a track and I've surely explored my riding abilities/boundaries over the years and have improved as a rider on public roads.
Improving your riding should be the main focus. "Exploring your boundaries" does not mean you go take a corner 20mph faster than you feel comfortable just so you can see if you don't die from from it. lol. 1/2 or more of improving your riding is the mental aspect of it and having a mental gameplan and knowing "how" to improve, "what" to look for, and going out and practicing a few things...like trying to improve your golf swing.
fjrsochs I would recommend you purchase & read Proficient Riding by David Hough. I think chapters 5-7 (If I remember correctly) get into:
-Cornering
-Counter-Steering
-Delayed Apex riding
-Reading curves and properly judging the "vanishing point"
-Coming unglued (riding off the saddle)
I've picked up some excellent pointers from this book and it's giving me something to implement & practice on public roads to make myself a better rider. Going out and just aimlessly trying to ride faster can be a recipe for disaster. Knowledge is key.
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I'm not an expert on cornering, but I understand pretty well what is going on. There are two distinctly different limits to cornering: The bike's mechanical limits and your mental limits. In my case, the latter restricts me far more than the former. I do not mind that.
Given a smooth and clean road surface, the bike will lean into corners, and maintain traction until it hits hard parts that lift the tires off the road. That is the bike's mechanical limitation. Before this happens you'll drag the footpegs, which will fold back harmlessly as they scratch along the road. If you aren't yet touching the pegs feelers yet, you aren't near the mechanical limit of the bike.
You'll notice I said "clean road surface" above. Any bike can and will lose traction and slide out if there is something on the road that compromises tire traction. If you can't see around a corner and come in too fast, and find out too late that there is something in or on the road, you will probably go down even if you are nowhere near the bike's mechanical limitation. You need to be knowledgeable enough to know what entry speed will allow you to react to unforseen hazards around the corner. This comes with experience.
There is also a limit in your head as to what "feels" safe. When you get near that limit you will experience a rush of adrenaline. It is fun. It's why we all keep coming back for more. As you gain time and experience near this limit, it will tend to push out, and you will become faster, little by little. But you need to keep the above paragraph always in mind and not ride over your head on the street where you have no control or knowledge over the road conditions.
The scenario for the majority of single vehicle motorcycle crashes, especially with newer riders, is where the rider exceeds their personal threshold, straightens up (for whatever reason) and rides the bike off the road, or worse, into the opposite lane into oncoming traffic. They did not exceed the limits of traction (yet). When you do get to one of those pucker moments (because we all do sooner or later) try to remember in the back of your mind that your bike is probably a whole lot better than you are. I know that mine is. Trust the bike. Ride the bike. Keep it on the road, and in your lane.
Other than some kind of an ego boost, I don't really see why it is particularly important that you can (or do) run as fast or faster than XYZ bike, or person. Enjoy your own thrill of riding near your own personal limits now. Yes it will change over time. But, as the mantra goes... Ride your own ride.
And remember: Riding a motorcycle is great fun. But, crashing one sucks pretty badly.
Given a smooth and clean road surface, the bike will lean into corners, and maintain traction until it hits hard parts that lift the tires off the road. That is the bike's mechanical limitation. Before this happens you'll drag the footpegs, which will fold back harmlessly as they scratch along the road. If you aren't yet touching the pegs feelers yet, you aren't near the mechanical limit of the bike.
You'll notice I said "clean road surface" above. Any bike can and will lose traction and slide out if there is something on the road that compromises tire traction. If you can't see around a corner and come in too fast, and find out too late that there is something in or on the road, you will probably go down even if you are nowhere near the bike's mechanical limitation. You need to be knowledgeable enough to know what entry speed will allow you to react to unforseen hazards around the corner. This comes with experience.
There is also a limit in your head as to what "feels" safe. When you get near that limit you will experience a rush of adrenaline. It is fun. It's why we all keep coming back for more. As you gain time and experience near this limit, it will tend to push out, and you will become faster, little by little. But you need to keep the above paragraph always in mind and not ride over your head on the street where you have no control or knowledge over the road conditions.
The scenario for the majority of single vehicle motorcycle crashes, especially with newer riders, is where the rider exceeds their personal threshold, straightens up (for whatever reason) and rides the bike off the road, or worse, into the opposite lane into oncoming traffic. They did not exceed the limits of traction (yet). When you do get to one of those pucker moments (because we all do sooner or later) try to remember in the back of your mind that your bike is probably a whole lot better than you are. I know that mine is. Trust the bike. Ride the bike. Keep it on the road, and in your lane.
Other than some kind of an ego boost, I don't really see why it is particularly important that you can (or do) run as fast or faster than XYZ bike, or person. Enjoy your own thrill of riding near your own personal limits now. Yes it will change over time. But, as the mantra goes... Ride your own ride.
And remember: Riding a motorcycle is great fun. But, crashing one sucks pretty badly.
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If you don't modify your FJR, the possible lean angle is not very much.
Your scratch the foot pegs quite early.
That means that you definitly have much room to improve your lean angle.
Just try lo lean more, on a road like the dragon tail the tires will definitly do it.
Just be prepared for the foot pegs to scratch. You have to set the foot back, so that you stand on the front part of your foot.
When you scratch the foot pegs of an unmodified FJR, you are not in danger. The FJR can do much more.
And I would say, when the "yellow" driver scratches the FJR like he scratches his Gold Wing, he will be at approximately the same speed.
As you know, I improved the setup of my FJR year by year until the maximum height.
At this point the foot pegs were scratched away up to the rubber beginning.
Is this setup the maximum leaning angle was more than enough and I could follow those sport bikes you talked about.
In this setup the "yellow" driver could go much faster with the FJR than with his Gold Wing.
SwollenRaccoon
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Nice video, Matt. Man, that brings back good memories from 5 weeks ago. I'd ride that every day, if I could.
Yeah, scary moment you had in that left-hander. Glad you got your wits about you and gathered it back in. Good work.
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