After reading some of the banter recently regarding small, portable air pumps, I am a little frustrated to find out that the FJR dashboard power outlet is not set up well enough to power one. IMO, this is a pretty big flaw. I surmised that I need a seperate outlet wired off of the battery, but not being an electrician, I really have no idea how to set this up myself. Can anyone give me the Cliff Notes version of what it would take (both supplies and labor) for a mechanic to set me up with what I will need? Thx in advance for any help. JRH08FJR
A little frustration with some info on the dashboard outlet
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Wee Willy
It's bad, you know
You got that right (not the flaw part so much as the wimpy part)...I think it has a 2-amp fuse in the circuit if memory serves. Great for cell phones and the like...no pumps or heated gear though. Pumps will require a separate connector that some here run directly off the battery. Let me go look around...BRB.
Check this out.
And this.
There's more out there if you go to Google and search for XXXXXXX then add site:fjrforum.com
I'm going to add a switched SAE connector to power my Motopump in the next few days.
Cheers,
W2
Check this out.
And this.
There's more out there if you go to Google and search for XXXXXXX then add site:fjrforum.com
I'm going to add a switched SAE connector to power my Motopump in the next few days.
Cheers,
W2
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Why? There's not even a plug for Gen 1 owners.
Most FJR riders only want to charge their cell phone and call AAA if they have a flat.
We conveniently linked special external links with instructions to one farkle at to this page.
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Sagebrush
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The battery location is in the owners manual with access info. Two allen screws and a plastic fastener, front right panel. The batter is visible from the bike's seat.
Thx for the link. Think I will print this out and take it to my mechanic to get a labor estimate. BTW, I kind of disagree re: the wimpy dash outlet. Want to take my girlfriend out on some overnight and weekend trips and I cant see how I can depend on calling Progressive when half the time, my cell phone doesnt even work in the N GA mountains. This is something that could have easily been provided by Yamaha with just a minor amout of tweaking on the front end. JRH08FJR
krotchrocketgrampa
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I put a battery tender on mine,and bought the new slime compressor,and low and behold it has one of the same connectors as the tender,just plug it in and it works like a charm :yahoo:
RenoJohn
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....hmmmmm, kinda does make one wonder
What exactly do Gen2 riders do with those 2amps??
12v manicure set?
12v electric razor for their legs?
12v caviar and brie spreader?
This Gen1 owner would like to know.
Wee Willy
It's bad, you know
No worries. A battery tender is a trickle charger that you can connect directly to your battery during extended periods of little use to keep your battery topped off. Riders who live in cold climes and only ride when it's nice and old farts who ride their bikes once in a blue moon use them to keep the bike charged.
Battery tender at Amazon.com.
W2
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Wee Willy
It's bad, you know
Not a whole hell of alot except replace blown fuses...and I got the scars to prove it. :angry2:
Cheers,
W2
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wfooshee
O, Woe is me!!
As for why such a measly circuit?
Keep in mind this is not a car, where accessories such as 50-watt stereo amps could be supported by the factory wiring.
Some early owners whined about not having a convenient place to plug in their phone's car chargers, so Yammy added it on. The ignition switch supplies power to the ABS computer, the ECU, hazard light (and turn signals,) signalling systems (brake lights and horn,) headlights, all directly through the switch, which carries the full load of those systems, as they are not energized through relays. Now we greedy riders want an accessory power plug. They put it in by tapping that same line off the ignition switch, adding another fuse, and running it to an accessory plug. They didn't have a lot of headroom to play with, but who needs headroom for a phone charger?
Some may note, "Hey, Walter, you dumb ^$%#!!!! The headlights are on a relay!!!"
Yes, they are, but not to relieve the load. The headlight relay coil and load are both on the same fuse! (So I am not a dumb ^$%#.) The only reason the relay exists is so the ECU can turn the lights on when the motor starts. Why, it's almost British in its logic, having a relay and its load on the same circuit!!
Anything significant you want to add to this bike needs its own wiring either direct to the battery, or through an accessory fuseblock. Personally, I don't need a plug for an air compressor. I've hard-wired one and it stows under the pillion seat.
Keep in mind this is not a car, where accessories such as 50-watt stereo amps could be supported by the factory wiring.
Some early owners whined about not having a convenient place to plug in their phone's car chargers, so Yammy added it on. The ignition switch supplies power to the ABS computer, the ECU, hazard light (and turn signals,) signalling systems (brake lights and horn,) headlights, all directly through the switch, which carries the full load of those systems, as they are not energized through relays. Now we greedy riders want an accessory power plug. They put it in by tapping that same line off the ignition switch, adding another fuse, and running it to an accessory plug. They didn't have a lot of headroom to play with, but who needs headroom for a phone charger?
Some may note, "Hey, Walter, you dumb ^$%#!!!! The headlights are on a relay!!!"
Yes, they are, but not to relieve the load. The headlight relay coil and load are both on the same fuse! (So I am not a dumb ^$%#.) The only reason the relay exists is so the ECU can turn the lights on when the motor starts. Why, it's almost British in its logic, having a relay and its load on the same circuit!!
Anything significant you want to add to this bike needs its own wiring either direct to the battery, or through an accessory fuseblock. Personally, I don't need a plug for an air compressor. I've hard-wired one and it stows under the pillion seat.
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RenoJohn
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wfooshee
O, Woe is me!!
Aasland
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Dude! That's just what I'm looking for! Where can I find it? This Gen2 owner REALLY needs one!
I've already rewired my 12V outlet with thicker wires right to they battery and a 30AMP fuse for a tire inflator, but I think if I could just sit and enjoy some caviar and brie I'll just call for a tow instead.
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Checkswrecks
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JRH08FJR
Foosh very well captured the story about why, despite his living in pine barrens, where they have nothing better to do than watch for hurricanes and oil slicks.
As he said, what's easy to miss is that Mama Yama gave us what we asked for, and in doing so their engineers recognized that the ignition switch contacts were already close to what they could handle.* Hence the low fuse amperage and direct answer to your question. As for me, I don't see their responding to what owners wanted as a flaw. Kawasaki made about 20 years of KLR650s with a spring (the "doohicky") that would occasionally break inside the motor. To me, THAT is a flaw!
(*The recall for certain bikes was a long story and a good/needed improvement. Click for recall. As a newby you'll hear about it from time to time. Your serial number should be after this group and your dealer can tell you for sure.)
Foosh very well captured the story about why, despite his living in pine barrens, where they have nothing better to do than watch for hurricanes and oil slicks.
As he said, what's easy to miss is that Mama Yama gave us what we asked for, and in doing so their engineers recognized that the ignition switch contacts were already close to what they could handle.* Hence the low fuse amperage and direct answer to your question. As for me, I don't see their responding to what owners wanted as a flaw. Kawasaki made about 20 years of KLR650s with a spring (the "doohicky") that would occasionally break inside the motor. To me, THAT is a flaw!
(*The recall for certain bikes was a long story and a good/needed improvement. Click for recall. As a newby you'll hear about it from time to time. Your serial number should be after this group and your dealer can tell you for sure.)
wfooshee
O, Woe is me!!
RadioHowie
I Miss Beemerdons!
Most Gen II owners carry them in their purses. Lithium/Ion spreaders with plenty of battery reserve. Don't need recharging that often. Where YOU been???
