TopHog:
What's got me a little stumped is why haven't there been as many 06 complaints prior to the last couple months when the problem was primarily reported on 07 models?
Painman:
I as an owner of an 06 with the surging issue can only speak for myself. My personal feeling to the answer to this question is that as I have mentioned in several posts is that the 06's with the surging issue don't have a problem as severe or a frequency as most 07's but nontheless is there. Therefore I think most 06 owners haven't stepped forward who have had only a "few" situations when the bike surged/stalled and really the 06 with the issue is probably alot more rideable than the 07.
TopHog:
I don't think I found a single 06 specific thread related to altitude surging until it was mentioned as a problem reported by 07 owners within the last couple months. I know there are lots of *rough* throttle threads, *jerkiness* issues, etc. which the 07 also has
Perhaps I may have overlooked the posts.
Painman:
I'll be darned if I can use the search to find old threads but I complained about this issue at least a year ago and folks kept thinking I guess that it was the jerky/low speed issue that you mentioned. I really felt that those on the board didn't really hear as to what I was talking about. There kept being confusion about the posts I made with the problem being the slow speed throttle issues. I complained to my dealer in June of 2006 that my bike demonstrated the surge but they said there was no report or bulletin and tested the bike (not at altitude), but said there was no issue and since the bike had only done the surge a couple of times I just let it go at the time and had not brought it up again until about six months ago when I reported it myself to Yamaha and my dealer again when it started to appear as a problem on the 07 bikes.
TopHog:
Since starting the thread below I have seen several 06 owners indicate it's a problem on their bikes. I wonder if 06 owners not been concerned with the problem for the last 1.5 years?
Painman:
I was and am sure others were but the numbers were not as many as the 07's and as mentioned above again the problem probably not as severe or as frequent as the 07's.
TopHog:
IMO this problem is not just an annoyance ...it almost makes the bike unridable at altitude and certainly dangerous depending on where you are at when it occurs. I would be curious to ride an 06 with this problem and see if it's the same deal as on my 07.
Painman:
I'm sure you would find the problem again not as severe as your 07 if you rode an 06 with the problem and I wholeheartedly agree it is a safety issue. My experience has been on my 06 that the issue usually always rears up at right around 2200 ft. elev., always going down hill and at the point of just starting to apply throttle with a sense of running out of fuel, applying more throttle, with no luck and then after a period of about 4 to 5 seconds doing this the power starts to return. If you happen to have the throttle in a position that is too far open after the episode of lag, the bike really wants to take off and or buck. My case is probably a little different in that I now only have around 9000 mi. on the odometer and have only had the bike at elevation about six to eight times as mentioned with surging usually but not every single time right around 2200 ft. elev. I think the reason other 06 owners with this problem hasn't stepped forward until now for probably the same reasons I mentioned or just haven't felt the issue severe enough to really go to batt for. There were some other 06 owners who spoke up but for some reason, probably because there weren't enough of us, we were sort of pushed aside or wrote off as some anamoly or that another problem existed and that only the 07's had the problem. Sorry to say but thanks to you 07 owners we as owners of the 06 can now hopefully get some help and get a fix as well. A special thanks to folks like you TopHog and Truwrecks for getting this problem in the open and out to Yamaha so we can all move on to greater things. And like WC said in another post it is this type of effort here on the board that can not only help us but later riders of the FJR so we can continue to help develop a fine machine that makes our lives a little better so we can all enjoy. And AGirl, I think the best is just to contact your dealer if you can't arrange a swap with another dealer as it looks like the new ECU's are suppose to come in about a week out as mentioned before. Hope this is of help. PM. <><
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