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Radio 'Owie just proved he's truly an old phart!
Yeah???

Then text this, ******!

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Oh just great, The Battle of the Titans; TweedleDick against TweedleDumb, or Boy George versus Pee Wee Herman! jes' sayin' and nuff said, es Verdad ese!

 
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So, you do your thinking and we'll do ours.

After all this thinking, what did you come up with? What call did you make for the rest of us, since yer being all official n stuff?

Thumbs up or down on pleasure riding?

 
...you were whining
I call it reflecting on my life and the world I live in. It's called thinking. It's what makes us human. I prescribe a dose of it for you. Specifically, a little Socrates (see "the unexamined life"), and since it's Sunday, Matthew 7:6.
Please trust us on this one Hans, in both Arkansas and Arizona "you were WHINING!" Existentialism is a prophylactic asshats use to **** with my mind!" from BeemerDonS

 
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The odds for the majority of us 50+ males is that we'll die of heart failure or cancer. Worrying about whatever else might get me seems a waste of energy, especially if that worry prevents me from doing things I enjoy.

But I say live and let live - enjoy the commute!

 
The odds for the majority of us 50+ males is that we'll die of heart failure or cancer. Worrying about whatever else might get me seems a waste of energy, especially if that worry prevents me from doing things I enjoy.
But I say live and let live - enjoy the commute!
This statement right here's living proof of why my Buddy Russ Perry is the smartest man on our FJR Forum (next to Bust, odot, Howie and ionbeam, of course!). JSNS!

 
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I'd rather die smiling on my bike than shitting myself in a nursing home.

The odds for the majority of us 50+ males is that we'll die of heart failure or cancer. Worrying about whatever else might get me seems a waste of energy, especially if that worry prevents me from doing things I enjoy.

But I say live and let live - enjoy the commute!
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Most of you haven't met and/or spent quality time with Hans. This is not a troll thread. It's just one man's reflection of personal values, assumed, imagined, and real risks and the joy quotient derived from said such risks.

Hugs n' Kisses

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Most of you haven't met and/or spent quality time with Hans. This is not a troll thread. It's just one man's reflection of personal values, assumed, imagined, and real risks and the joy quotient derived from said such risks.
Hugs n' Kisses

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Hey Carver, BLOW US!

 
Holy crap. I haven't seen a more pointless thread everrrrrrr.
And that includes syn vs. conventional.

4 pages of this dribble!

My hat is off to Hans. Well done.

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Back where I come from, we have universities, seats of great learning, where men go to become great thinkers. And when they come out, they think deep thoughts...


 
Holy crap. I haven't seen a more pointless thread everrrrrrr.
And that includes syn vs. conventional.

4 pages of this dribble!

My hat is off to Hans. Well done.

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Back where I come from, we have universities, seats of great learning, where men go to become great thinkers. And when they come out, they think deep thoughts...
I see the equation ;) ...so you're saying JB =
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My reasoning there (after having been crowded / threatened by cell users many times) is that the drunks know they are impaired and try to keep a low profile. The cell phone wackos think they are the only ones on the road.At least cell users / inattentive drivers seem to be a lot more common here.
In spite of my sarcasm I completely agree with you. The cell phone zombies are certainly the most prevalent form of danger on my commute every day. I use all sorts of words in my helmet to describe them.
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I can't recall the car maker, but there is a commercial out there now with a driver thinking about things at home, reaching for something on the console, etc, and the point is to show that if the driver is distracted, that's OK, because the car will brake automatically, and warn him that he's drifting across the lane or changing into an occupied space...basically selling the fact that if you aren't really paying attention to driving, don't worry about it because the car's got it for you! I cringed when I saw that ad for the first time. Can we enable distracted driving any more thoroughly?

 
Ya know, they sell cell blockers in Europe.....
They do ... and using one here is a Federal offense. You really do not want to be caught deliberately blocking telecommunications, bad things will happen.

Plus, they can adversely effect cell towers if you pass close enough, and disrupting the emergency calls others might be making is not something you want to do.

In the UK they reached a compromise. You may use a cell phone, but it has to be handsfree and the penalties for not complying are severe. Most folk see the sense in the compromise, and the problem, while it still exists, was massively reduced. There are still laws about "driving while distracted", so it is permission to use a phone only when it is safe(ish) to do so. Have a wreck and you will still be in trouble, and drivers know this.

Trying for a total ban is almost certain to fail, with widespread non-compliance.

 
I don't even buy hands-free as being any better than using a hand-held phone while driving. After all, you can drive a car with one hand pretty easily, whether you're using the other hand for another task or it's just resting in your lap or in that thing on the left side of you there. What's it called? Oh yeh--the "arm rest."

When you're talking to somebody who's not right there with you, you have to fill in all the details that you'd be getting from the other person if they were there with you. Your mind is just as busy on something other than driving and watching the road whether one of your hands is holding a phone or not. I really don't believe the hand-held cellphone ban in California has done much good at all, and not just because people are ignoring it and using their regular phone anyway.

On the other hand, some drivers, at least, are waiting to make or answer that call until they get somewhere safe, so at least those drivers aren't adding to the carnage. There are still way more distracted drivers thanks to cell phones than there ever were before, sad to say. And Twigg is right. Banning their use, with or without hands, just wouldn't be very effective. We just have to be much more vigilant, out of pure self preservation. Still, I continue to ride. I like it.

 
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