El Toro Joe
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just pick one out and buy it...lots to choose from, in many price rangesI wish someday to be spoiled by the fjr.
just pick one out and buy it...lots to choose from, in many price rangesI wish someday to be spoiled by the fjr.
Going to try and do just that. Have been lurking for awhile and trying to learn about FJRs. I have a feeling I may have to wait until its Spring before I find one being in the northeast. If I haven't found one by the time Yamaha/Star brings there trailer to town with new bikes to demo ride I might have a tough decision.just pick one out and buy it...lots to choose from, in many price rangesI wish someday to be spoiled by the fjr.
See you at next year's Hooterville; it's in your backyard. Even the grandma group rides in a spirited manner.Mad German posted: <snip, snip> While I love the sheer outright performance of the liter supersports I've owned and ridden over the years, I believe I'm a dedicated sport-touring guy from now on.
I really enjoyed my cruiser, and rode it on several 8- to 10-hour rides. The riding position was exactly as hppants stated: sitting on my *** in a La-Z-Boy. However, trying to ride spiritedly through the city or the north Georgia mountains led to scraping the hard parts under the floorboards. After one incident that lifted the back tire off the pavement, I retired the bike.hppants posted a few thoughts, but this one called out for me to chime in:
With regard to cruisers, the other thing that really bothers me is the fact that the riding position [on a cruiser] doesn't lend itself well to handling a quick evasive maneuver. You have so much weight on your arse that you simply cannot lift yourself off the seat to help ride through a surprise pot hole or object in the road. You have so little weight on your hands that you simply cannot countersteer yourself around a decreasing radius curve, a quick lane change, or the like. To compensate for that, you have to greatly slow down your riding to a "cruise" to give yourself more time for reaction in most of these situations.
Good saying. Colorful people make the world a more interesting place. And the way other cultures view motorcycles is intrigueing...."Son, if everyone was the same, this would be one boring ******* place."
...and if I've learned anything in my 50 years, it's OK to agree to disagree.
...then you also need sufficient wind protection to keep your helmet from buffeting, and your chest from getting blasted..
What Pants says is true. I regularly peruse the bikes for-sale-by-owner on Craigs List just to stay on top of the market. What I see are scads of cruisers - mostly H-D but plenty of the Asian variety - for sale with very, very low miles - 2,000 and less per year. Some 1,000 or less - four poker runs annually. Are these owners really "bikers" or even "riders"? I suppose so since they are probably in the majority. What's really interesting is that they've spent far more on bling than they ever spent on riding. Stage I, II, III, intakes and pipes, fuel modulators, seats, bars, custom paint, chrome flaming eagle skull geegaws... $4,000-$8,000 in "upgrades." "Never been ridden in the rain" is a common selling come-on. It also seems that the depreciation and market supply-and-demand realities have come home to roost where pricing is concerned. Some are asking wishful-thinking prices, others are more realistic. Sport bikes are about the same - 1,000-2,000 per year. All have fender eliminator kits, aftermarket LED turn signals, most with after-market pipes, some with bling lighting... These have often been damaged. It would seem not enough riding to sharpen the skills compounded with boneheadedness. I'm not condemning, just wondering at the decision making process employed when the bike was purchased and all the money spent. There are also plentiful true dirt bikes - not street legal - of various ages and conditions. On the other hand, most touring, ST and some ADV bikes have been ridden hard and put away wet: 10,000 miles or more per year, though there are rare exceptions as we all know. I bought an '05 FJR one year ago with 9,000 miles on it - about 1,000 annually. My own '03 1000 V-Strom has less than 30,000 miles - about 2,500 annually. Dealers are telling me "sport bikes are dead; cruisers, touring and STs are slow, ADV and dual sport are hot; quads are slow-to-dead, side-by-sides are hot." Anyway, there are real riders (check their odometers) but I believe there are far more posers in (almost) all motorcycle categories.Some of my cruiser bike friends don't have a clue. They bought an image. They call themselves "riders", but they are really posers. They are enamored with the idea of riding, but when it comes down to it, they would rather kick tires and swing their pee pee. Not all are like this, but most are.
Most of my sportbike friends are the same way, too. After the 4th or 5th squid pose, they are basically done. That usually happens about 40 miles from home.
In each case, I would never call them out on it - they are still my friends and if I've learned anything in my 50 years, it's OK to agree to disagree.
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