Are the lights still on at the IBA ?

[David Morrow]

A local rider emailed me and told me that she had submitted her SS1K documents sometime in 2005 and never heard another thing. There seems to be a lot of other long delayed ride certifications. Even the website, which doesn't necessarily reflect all rides that have been certified to date, is more than a year behind.

I have the doc's for my 7th & likely final IBA ride ready to go but wonder if I'm just going to wait for a year or two. I suppose that on the other hand, I might as well get in line now as it can't hurt. But, I'd just like to know what's going on at the IBA. I think the '07 IB Ralley is underway but that should cause the delays that I've read about.

 

[Orient_Express]

A local rider emailed me and told me that she had submitted her SS1K documents sometime in 2005 and never heard another thing. There seems to be a lot of other long delayed ride certifications. Even the website, which doesn't necessarily reflect all rides that have been certified to date, is more than a year behind.
I have the doc's for my 7th & likely final IBA ride ready to go but wonder if I'm just going to wait for a year or two. I suppose that on the other hand, I might as well get in line now as it can't hurt. But, I'd just like to know what's going on at the IBA. I think the '07 IB Ralley is underway but that should cause the delays that I've read about.

Don't know for sure - I do know one thing - they get a tremendous amount of email and certification requests (not only from the US but other countries as well). Also, don't think there is a huge staff there and they are VERY particular about confirming everything submitted - especially the mileage.

2005 is a long time to wait - she might want to give them a call or email - anyone can make a mistake and they may have her packet "buried" somewhere and has been forgotten about. I have two friends who did the SS1K. One got his certification in about 2 months and the other took fourteen months to get. Both rode at the same time, same route, same submission date.

I'll bet they're pretty busy at this time of the year as well. Not many do a ride from November to March!

 

[ponyfool]

At WFO, I heard people talking about non pre-planned rides taking more than a year to certify.

 

[Ignacio]

Well covered here and here for rides received after June 2006.

 

[David Morrow]

At WFO, I heard people talking about non pre-planned rides taking more than a year to certify.

What do you mean by "non pre-planned" ?

 

[David Morrow]

By way of a followup question, does anyone know if the more extreme rides get routed through the system any differently than the more basic ride ? My doc's are for a TransCanada Gold (#2) so I wonder if, because the rules are slightly more complex, if they go to someone who knows the rules for this ride and the geography up here.

 

[ponyfool]

At WFO, there was an SS1K where they had rally towels, Polaroids, and an odometer/time checker. When they completed the ride, they were instantly given their IBA numbers and certificates (well, instantly meaning at the banquet). It was because it was a pre-planned, organized and IBA approved event.

Anything outside of this would be a non pre-planned event.

But, I could be talking out my butt on this one too, I just know some of the folks got certificates the next night.

 

[Ignacio]

By way of a followup question, does anyone know if the more extreme rides get routed through the system any differently than the more basic ride ? My doc's are for a TransCanada Gold (#2) so I wonder if, because the rules are slightly more complex, if they go to someone who knows the rules for this ride and the geography up here.

Any answers on this forum would be speculation at best...and incorrect information at worst. Why don't you pose the question on the IBA forum itself? Ira monitors and responds to these types of questions regularly...and speaks with authority.

 

[beeroux]

Mike Kneebone has NEW trained staff in place, after the original team burned out and left abruptly, causing the delays we've seen recently.

This new team is making impressive headway, but they have a long way to go.

I can assure you, Mike Kneebone has no higher priority than to get those rides certified and out the door. In fact, he is spending his vacation time while the IBR is underway to get as many rides certified and the whole process up to full speed. He doesn't like this any more than you do, but THAT is how stringent and vetted every ride is. If you see a pin or plateback, you know that guy ain't talking smack. He did what he claims to have done.

How many other entity's in this world can claim such a rigorous protocol?

All will be well with the IBA in short order, I bet a million on it.

GZ

 

[Ignacio]

Mike Kneebone has NEW trained staff in place, after the original team burned out and left abruptly, causing the delays we've seen recently.
This new team is making impressive headway, but they have a long way to go.

I can assure you, Mike Kneebone has no higher priority than to get those rides certified and out the door. In fact, he is spending his vacation time while the IBR is underway to get as many rides certified and the whole process up to full speed. He doesn't like this any more than you do, but THAT is how stringent and vetted every ride is. If you see a pin or plateback, you know that guy ain't talking smack. He did what he claims to have done.

....some inside info....I stand pleasantly corrected.

 

[dcarver]

..and better yet, just do your event at next year's National.. assuming you can wait for a day..

so sayeth the CBA prez..

'sometimes it's just enough to know you can'.

 

[David Morrow]

Mike Kneebone has NEW trained staff in place, after the original team burned out and left abruptly, causing the delays we've seen recently.<snip> .....

All will be well with the IBA in short order, I bet a million on it.

GZ

Thanks, that's the most refreshing bit of detail I've heard yet. Off I head to the post office then.

 

[rocketdoc]

Yes'm I have done a couple of SS1000's but never submitted the signatures and logs. To me doesn't really matter. I've done it, know personally I can and will do big days again, but don't want the plate frame or certificate to tell the world. Everyone's different, don't think I don't appreciate the big dogs out there, but I just ride my own ride and let it be at that.

 

[Bounce]

By way of a followup question, does anyone know if the more extreme rides get routed through the system any differently than the more basic ride ? My doc's are for a TransCanada Gold (#2) so I wonder if, because the rules are slightly more complex, if they go to someone who knows the rules for this ride and the geography up here.

in the past i've been told by kneebone that the extreme rides are more closely scrutinized than the basic rides. receipts are audited against mileages, contacts contacted, etc. on the basic rides a basic validation check of receipts against claimed miles vs actual miles and, unless something raises a flag they move on (don't doubt for a second that the basic rides are slid through without review though). please note this is a paraphrase and i am, in no way, a rep for the IBA nor a spokesman for them. their procedures are their own.

it was about a year ago that discussions took place about how mike's life was overwhelmed by the huge increase in submissions over the past 5 years. that was when talk about the "gold" membership started and discussion about paid staff/certifiers coming on board to get things under control. the paid staff part was to deal with how volunteers were burning out and the turn over and training process was eating them up.

 

[MKO]

Mike Kneebone has NEW trained staff in place, after the original team burned out and left abruptly, causing the delays we've seen recently.
This new team is making impressive headway, but they have a long way to go.

I can assure you, Mike Kneebone has no higher priority than to get those rides certified and out the door. In fact, he is spending his vacation time while the IBR is underway to get as many rides certified and the whole process up to full speed. He doesn't like this any more than you do, but THAT is how stringent and vetted every ride is. If you see a pin or plateback, you know that guy ain't talking smack. He did what he claims to have done.

How many other entity's in this world can claim such a rigorous protocol?

All will be well with the IBA in short order, I bet a million on it.

GZ

Good to hear. I sent Mike Kneebone a message inquiring about my SS1k cert and got a reply from Ira Agins (new staff member?). My check was cashed on 7/9 and that used to be a good sign that certification would soon follow. Ira asked me to fill out a form and promised to status were my cert request was in the process. I have not yet heard back, but it's only been three days as write this. In IBA time that is like 3 hours.

 

[Groo]

I submitted by BBG ride coming home from WFO-5 last July in August of '06. They cashed my check around December. I still haven't heard squat. <_<

 

[beeroux]

ROCKETDOC.

So you've done some big days and you want ZERO recognition, yet you wish to proclaim such mileage to the cyber-world?

Hay-Zuez H KuhWrighst, get it over with and get a REAL certificate of achievement from the IBA vs. just "Saying" you did this and that.

The IBA process may be bogged down at the moment, but I can trust the IBA if they say a GUY has done X vs. YOU saying Blah Blah Blah, Blah, Sqwuak Blah Blah.

Ya dig?

Sho nuff.

If you ain't gotta plate back, you ain't got dick.

Stop TALKING and start WALKING.

Word to ya Mutha.

GZ

 

[dcarver]

ROCKETDOC.
So you've done some big days and you want ZERO recognition, yet you wish to proclaim such mileage to the cyber-world?

Hay-Zuez H KuhWrighst, get it over with and get a REAL certificate of achievement from the IBA vs. just "Saying" you did this and that.

The IBA process may be bogged down at the moment, but I can trust the IBA if they say a GUY has done X vs. YOU saying Blah Blah Blah, Blah, Sqwuak Blah Blah.

Ya dig?

Sho nuff.

If you ain't gotta plate back, you ain't got dick.

Stop TALKING and start WALKING.

Word to ya Mutha.

GZ

Geesh GZ, that was a bit harsh.. EvenTWN hasn't submitted his BB yet..

..and what about those riders back in the 50's and 60's, with 32 hp machines, no gps, no skyway hydration systems, no anti-lock brakes, no radar detectors, and a metal seat.. and having to stop and fix their machines 2 or 3 times during the ride? I bet they say you're the wimp , what with all the fancy shmancy equipment you have now. It's almost unfair.. anybody can do a ss1k now.

Heck, GZ, even me, the CBA prez has done unofficial ss1k's.. admittedly, the last one to WFO6 because I failed the read the freakin' rules and will make up for it in two weeks, but still, I think the bar is set too LOW. And, like I said, sometimes it's just enough to know you can.

IMHO, given today's newer, faster, more reliable and comfortable bikes, the ss1k should be eliminated and the IBA membership threshold should be a BunBurner.

Signed,

CBA PrezuDentus,

dcarver

..ps - all this meant in jest.. have fun with it Bee!

 

[beerme]

IMHO, given today's newer, faster, more reliable and comfortable bikes, the ss1k should be eliminated and the IBA membership threshold should be a BunBurner.

Maybe that's not a half bad idea.