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Murph
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I thought some of you might be interested in this article from the latest issue of “Midwest Motorcyclist.” It comes from the monthly column “ASK OUR LAWYER” BY ROD TAYLOR of A.B.A.T.E. LEGAL SERVICES:
Q: While traveling or riding my bike how can I carry a gun legally? Even to just go to the firing range or something like that. I do have a current FOID (Firearm Owner’s Identification) card. - Mike Brunson, Liberty Chapter, A.B.A.T.E. of Illinois
A: Your question is a good one. As with most questions, there is both a federal law, which would govern transporting firearms across state lines, and state law, which govern transportation within your state.
First, federal law. The applicable federal regulation states that a person legally entitled to possess a firearm may transport that firearm if it is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle. In the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment, the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console. 18 U.S.C. § 926a. What that means for riders is that your unloaded firearm should be in a locked case, with the ammunition in a separate locked case, preferably stored in separate saddlebags. For the very cautious, you can remove the cylinder from a revolver and place the unloaded cylinder, or the unloaded clip for your semi-auto, in a third, locked box. Your saddlebags should also lock, in order keep your firearms secured.
In Illinois, three statutory codes regulate the possession, transfer, and transportation of firearms — the Criminal Code, the Wildlife Code, and the Firearm Owner’s Identification Act. Under Unlawful Use of Weapons (UUW) in the Criminal Code, persons who have been issued a valid FOID card may transport a firearm anywhere in their vehicle or on their person as long as the firearm is unloaded and enclosed in a case, firearm carrying box, shipping box
or other container. Firearms that are not immediately accessible or are broken down in a non-functioning state may also be carried or transported under the Criminal Code. The Wildlife Code, however, is more restrictive. It requires that all firearms transported in or on any vehicle be unloaded and in a case. Other states have similar statutes. Check with your local gun club or sheriff’s department for additional details.
If you want to see the article, it is on page 11 of the issue. (Note: it'll take awhile to load since it's a .pdf)
Q: While traveling or riding my bike how can I carry a gun legally? Even to just go to the firing range or something like that. I do have a current FOID (Firearm Owner’s Identification) card. - Mike Brunson, Liberty Chapter, A.B.A.T.E. of Illinois
A: Your question is a good one. As with most questions, there is both a federal law, which would govern transporting firearms across state lines, and state law, which govern transportation within your state.
First, federal law. The applicable federal regulation states that a person legally entitled to possess a firearm may transport that firearm if it is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle. In the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment, the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console. 18 U.S.C. § 926a. What that means for riders is that your unloaded firearm should be in a locked case, with the ammunition in a separate locked case, preferably stored in separate saddlebags. For the very cautious, you can remove the cylinder from a revolver and place the unloaded cylinder, or the unloaded clip for your semi-auto, in a third, locked box. Your saddlebags should also lock, in order keep your firearms secured.
In Illinois, three statutory codes regulate the possession, transfer, and transportation of firearms — the Criminal Code, the Wildlife Code, and the Firearm Owner’s Identification Act. Under Unlawful Use of Weapons (UUW) in the Criminal Code, persons who have been issued a valid FOID card may transport a firearm anywhere in their vehicle or on their person as long as the firearm is unloaded and enclosed in a case, firearm carrying box, shipping box
or other container. Firearms that are not immediately accessible or are broken down in a non-functioning state may also be carried or transported under the Criminal Code. The Wildlife Code, however, is more restrictive. It requires that all firearms transported in or on any vehicle be unloaded and in a case. Other states have similar statutes. Check with your local gun club or sheriff’s department for additional details.
If you want to see the article, it is on page 11 of the issue. (Note: it'll take awhile to load since it's a .pdf)
TriggerT
Mr. Impatient
Don't even get me going on firearms in IL. I will refrain from responding further since I have no question in my mind I would be stepping WAY over the lines of proper Forum edicate. thanks for the information though.
Knifemaker
Not me
I just keep a loaded gun locked in my bags and worry not about laws.......
KM
KM
RockiesRider
Livin la buena vida!!!
Oklahoma allows you to have (purchase) a concealed carry permit, which I have done.
So I carry most all the time except when I'm at work and sometime I'd feel better carrying there. :glare:
I do conceal on the bike and not on my person outside the state. However, I do show my permit and tell the officer I' in possession.
I also carry a printed copy of the portion of the 2nd Amendment for an individuals rights to bear arms.
So far I've never had to use either the weapon or the paper.
So I carry most all the time except when I'm at work and sometime I'd feel better carrying there. :glare:
I do conceal on the bike and not on my person outside the state. However, I do show my permit and tell the officer I' in possession.
I also carry a printed copy of the portion of the 2nd Amendment for an individuals rights to bear arms.
So far I've never had to use either the weapon or the paper.
Patriot
Isabella is Lazarus
Just my 1.5 cents
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Gary F
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Being a Canadian you guys are scaring the hell out of me. Packing here means carrying a Viagra and being ready for whatever. I often thought that motorcyclists should carry a gun to even the score with automobiles but now I see that that is a reality in the States. Please manage those weapons wisely!
Gary
Gary
zzzzip
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dcarver
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I carry.
The meaniest sling shot you ever did see.
Fear me, I'll put a failed BMW rear-end ball bearing right between your eyeballs at 50 yards!
LOL, you know I have PLENTY of ammo!
The meaniest sling shot you ever did see.
Fear me, I'll put a failed BMW rear-end ball bearing right between your eyeballs at 50 yards!
LOL, you know I have PLENTY of ammo!
garywayne
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Hey Anj - seen 'ol Barn around lately?
(Sorry, just being a smartass...)
When I got my carry permit (Tennessee) we were told not to declare that we were armed if stopped. They told us the only time we should tell is if we were asked to do something where the officer might see the gun. If that was the case then better to tell him rather than let it suprise him.
krashdragon
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Old thread, but current topic...
If anyone is interested, this is a very interesting site...
Weekly email is free, but the website is a small fee.... lots of very good info, however....
and yes, he does sell stuff, but a guys gotta earn a living...
Mary
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/public/460.cfm
If anyone is interested, this is a very interesting site...
Weekly email is free, but the website is a small fee.... lots of very good info, however....
and yes, he does sell stuff, but a guys gotta earn a living...
Mary
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/public/460.cfm
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