Bystanders pull motorcycle driver trapped under burning car
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TriggerT
Mr. Impatient
A few things:
First I think it is great that people jumped in, risking their own safety to help the rider.
Second, I think it is funny (in a sick way), how after pulling him from under the car everyone just backs away, then the cops put out the fire, and then they get around to checking on the riders status.
Last, I just wonder if the squid will have learned anything and buy some gear if he decides, or is able to, get back on a bike. (Gear might not have kept him from getting hurt in this case, but it certainly would have helped.)
First I think it is great that people jumped in, risking their own safety to help the rider.
Second, I think it is funny (in a sick way), how after pulling him from under the car everyone just backs away, then the cops put out the fire, and then they get around to checking on the riders status.
Last, I just wonder if the squid will have learned anything and buy some gear if he decides, or is able to, get back on a bike. (Gear might not have kept him from getting hurt in this case, but it certainly would have helped.)
Checkswrecks
Well-known member
Also caught the lack of helmet and then everybody backing away. My experience with accidents and heart attacks is that people first rush in to see and then freeze or back away.
Presuming the fat guy in the suit owned the Beemer, his total response was not to help, no curiousity about the kid under his car, not even joining the crowd to lift. His response was to pull out his cell phone and cross his arms. Incredible!
The police response could have been better too. The first officer pitched in to lift the car somewhat. But after the kid was out, he's wandering and talking on his radio, not even seeing if the kid needs basic aid. Most officers see a lot of car fires and so should know that the fire was far enough away. There were also two officers, so could have split their efforts. Maybe it was just human to focus on the bigger attention getter.
When the second cop finally gives attention to the kid, after knocking down the fire, why in the world were they trying to pick him up and move him? The fire was no longer a threat, the kid was presumably breathing (chest moved a couple of times) and not bleeding out. Basic response training is that major trauma should assume to have back or other internal injuries and to limit movement. With two cops and an instant crowd, this probably was an area with ready EMS, so the response should have been to simply keep him stable for the ambulance. Fortunately there was somebody who recognized this, coached the officers, and they listened.
In the end, I have a kid that age, so get well young Mr. Wright.
Presuming the fat guy in the suit owned the Beemer, his total response was not to help, no curiousity about the kid under his car, not even joining the crowd to lift. His response was to pull out his cell phone and cross his arms. Incredible!
The police response could have been better too. The first officer pitched in to lift the car somewhat. But after the kid was out, he's wandering and talking on his radio, not even seeing if the kid needs basic aid. Most officers see a lot of car fires and so should know that the fire was far enough away. There were also two officers, so could have split their efforts. Maybe it was just human to focus on the bigger attention getter.
When the second cop finally gives attention to the kid, after knocking down the fire, why in the world were they trying to pick him up and move him? The fire was no longer a threat, the kid was presumably breathing (chest moved a couple of times) and not bleeding out. Basic response training is that major trauma should assume to have back or other internal injuries and to limit movement. With two cops and an instant crowd, this probably was an area with ready EMS, so the response should have been to simply keep him stable for the ambulance. Fortunately there was somebody who recognized this, coached the officers, and they listened.
In the end, I have a kid that age, so get well young Mr. Wright.
I think it's human nature to back away once you can't add to the situation, in hopes that someone that can will jump in there.
I'll be interested to know what comes of it, who's at fault and how the rider does.
I'll be interested to know what comes of it, who's at fault and how the rider does.
Pete Bansen
Well-known member
And the news story notes that the driver of the car was "not seriously injured".
No **** - he didn't even wrinkle his suit.
I can't really fault the cops too much, although I think I would have moved the guy a little farther away from the burning bike and car once it was clear their suppression effort had not been effective. The cop may not appear to be doing much, but chances are good he was talking on the radio providing an update, determining what resources were enroute and how soon they would be arriving. I've been in the situation many times and a video would not reveal what I'm doing as a fire officer. If the patient is breathing and there's no significant (i.e. life-threatening) bleeding, you'd want to protect his cervical spine and keep him or anyone else from getting injured by the fire, as well as providing a location for the first-due fire engine and ambulance to park.
I'm a little surprised that number of people were able to lift the car that well, given that they couldn't get too close to the front because of the fire, which was probably pretty toasty.
No **** - he didn't even wrinkle his suit.
I can't really fault the cops too much, although I think I would have moved the guy a little farther away from the burning bike and car once it was clear their suppression effort had not been effective. The cop may not appear to be doing much, but chances are good he was talking on the radio providing an update, determining what resources were enroute and how soon they would be arriving. I've been in the situation many times and a video would not reveal what I'm doing as a fire officer. If the patient is breathing and there's no significant (i.e. life-threatening) bleeding, you'd want to protect his cervical spine and keep him or anyone else from getting injured by the fire, as well as providing a location for the first-due fire engine and ambulance to park.
I'm a little surprised that number of people were able to lift the car that well, given that they couldn't get too close to the front because of the fire, which was probably pretty toasty.
FJR-RemingtonRider
Their Sunset / My Sunrise
Just saw this post and walked into my dining room and a guest was playing this on their phone.
This is pretty awesome.
Many times opportunities like this for human spirit to erupt is passed on by those
who are there, but not this time...people banded together and that really is the story.
I think if they had not come together in unison; we never would have known of this accident
nationwide as we have. Maybe the lingering spirit of 9/11 or perhaps the perfect
storm; whatever the reason, through their efforts this young man was blessed with
an opportunity to live; whatever that capacity may be...I do pray he takes full advantage
of it.
This is pretty awesome.
Many times opportunities like this for human spirit to erupt is passed on by those
who are there, but not this time...people banded together and that really is the story.
I think if they had not come together in unison; we never would have known of this accident
nationwide as we have. Maybe the lingering spirit of 9/11 or perhaps the perfect
storm; whatever the reason, through their efforts this young man was blessed with
an opportunity to live; whatever that capacity may be...I do pray he takes full advantage
of it.
ctfjr
Well-known member
Of course there is the classic:
Riggs said Wright tried to protect himself by laying his bike down.
Riggs said Wright tried to protect himself by laying his bike down.
vabrzn
Well-known member
"First I think it is great that people jumped in, risking their own safety to help the rider.
Second, I think it is funny (in a sick way), how after pulling him from under the car everyone just backs away, then the cops put out the fire, and then they get around to checking on the riders status."
Apparently the police told them to back away after they pulled him out. I thought it was odd too whe I first saw the video.
Second, I think it is funny (in a sick way), how after pulling him from under the car everyone just backs away, then the cops put out the fire, and then they get around to checking on the riders status."
Apparently the police told them to back away after they pulled him out. I thought it was odd too whe I first saw the video.
not2shabby
Well-known member
So the ****** in the suit was the driver? Way to pitch in and help out ya @#%$*&^%#$@!
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