This is a known issue with S&T 2008. To fix it follow these instructions:
I have a question concerning 2010 street and trips and this new .gpx export. I've been using street and trips 2007, then using a convert program to convert it to .gpx. i then load that .gpx file into mapsource , which in turn loads it into my garmin. I was under the impression that mapsource converted the .gpx file into some other format for the garmin (which was the reason you had to use it). i've never heard of anyone being able to drop a .gpx file into the nuvi (cause i dont think it stores these routes as .gpx files). If the new street and trips will allow export to .gpx, I think it will only allow me to bypass the conversion step. I'll bet you'd have to take that exported .gpx file and open it into mapsource before downloading it into your nuvi. Let me know if i'm wrong about this. I'd love to be able to skip the mapsource part of my procedure, but i dont think street and trips 2010 will be that ticket. Hope i'm wrong....Awesome work on this comparison. I just thought I would add a few updates based on the new 2010 release of MS Streets & Trips.
- Both GPX import and export are finally supported. Unlike DeLorme, there is no limit on the number of points contained within the GPX file. Yeah, now I can forget about the extra converter tools.
- Here is a video I stumbled upon showing how to transfer stops from S&T to a Garmin Nuvi. Alternatively, you can just export to GPX and manually drop the GPX file onto the NUVI's GPX folder on the device.
- Drag 'n drop routing. When you mouse over the route highlight the cursor changes from the arrow to a hand and you can "drag n'drop" the route to make it go on the roads you want.
- Abiltity to rename your route waypoints to something more meaningful than "Near Denver"
- Streets can work with any USB GPS reciever that exposes a virtual COM port (not new but there seems to be some confusion on this point). Even a 3rd party USB GPS receiver like GlobalSat BU-353 works great. It's waterproof and has a magnetic mounting! :yahoo:
- download a free 60 day trial or order a copy from Amazon.com or some such place .
Mapsource is what comes with the nuvi. Its the "sanctioned" way to get custum routes into the device. I dont think that when you transfer a file from mapsource into the device that it exports it into the device as a .gpx file. Mapsource converts it into something the nuvi can understand. It then shows up in the my favorites folder (but also included all the waypoints. the only way to import a custom route is to transfer the route to the device, then go into the "my data" folder and select import routes from file or folder. the device somehow finds the route and puts in in the "custom routes" area (which is where the damn thing should put routes in the first place. PUtting all the waypoints and the route in the favorites folder is just plain stupid). . The old tom tom i had was different. you could use the convert program (to conver the .est file from street and trips into a .itn file for tom tom) and send it directly into a specific tom tom folder. It seemed to know what to do with .itn files.If the Nuvi accepts a .gpx file for import, it will calculate its own route from the information in the file rather than using the route as calculated by Mapsource. I don't have access to a Nuvi, but from what I understand it doesn't accept routes from Mapsource, just .gpx files, then you have to "import" the file in the Nuvi's menu and calculate a route in the device from that. I'm sure someone will be along to correct me if I'm wrong.
I think you should be able to simply copy the .GPX file from Streets & Trips to the Nuvi while it's connected to your PC. It will appear as an external disk. You would bypass the conversion and the Mapsource load and transfer.
Keep in mind my thread was written with my Streetpilot in mind, and the Zumos are pretty similar in operation to those.
You don't have to use TYRE to get the Google maps into your Garmin GPS.
You don't have to use TYRE to get the Google maps into your Garmin GPS.
You'll need an account on myGarmin .
The Nuvis don't actually receive the "route" from Mapsource, just the waypoints, and it recalcs. Same going the other way, transfer the route to Mapsource, you get straight lines between the points until you recalc.
I believe you are correct. you can take a .gpx file and drop it into the gpx folder on the nuvi. i think what happens is that all the waypoints in the route go into your favorites (which has very little benefit other than giving you some distict wayponts (as long as you've named them in a way that makes sense (which is another benefit of street and trips 2010)). The real world application is that once you drop that file into the gpx folder, you should now be able to go into the "my data" folder and choose "import from a file or folder" option. the GPX file that you dropped into the nuvi should be automatically found and you can import it (which basically means it will import the route into the "custom route" folder). What i'm fighting with is how many waypoints to put in. I dont know what that nuvi is planning to do with my .gpx file. i can see what mapsource is doing with it and make updates to the route as appropriate, but i cant see what the nuvi is doing internally. Thats why i always plan my route with street and trips, then convert it to a .gpx (using itnconv), then bring it into mapsource, do a recalculate, and add additional waypoints if it changed my route, then copy it into the nuvi and import into custom routes.
Absolutely correct...... adding waypoints in mapsource can be be a pain, but once your use to the process, its still a pain, but very doable. I like to go other way and add too many waypoint into MSST, then convert the .est to a .gpx, then open that in mapsource and start taking waypoint out untill i get the minimum i need to keep my route. Its pretty easy to delete waypoints in mapsource and do recalculates to see what changes in your route. If your route changes undesirably, you can do an undo. Its one thing that mapsource actually does better than MSST. Deleting points and recalculating in MSST isnt what it does best. The recalculate in MSST causes the screen to change and forces you to re-zoom into the area you were making changes to. Mapsource just keeps your current view and shows you the new route. I do have a problem selecting waypoints on my route in mapsource to delete though. You need to be in selection tool mode and when you try to select the waypoint it will sometimes jump into a mode that connects the point before and the point after together. you then have to right mouse click and hit cancel, the retry. I've never really figured out what its trying to do, but i'm able to eventually work around it. If anyone has any suggestions about that one, let me know.
