Cav47
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The plan is to watch this live as much as we can in class today. Hope it matches up with our school time.
December 7th, Pearl Harbor Day - a personal connection
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El Toro
Innocent Bystander
Very nice.
My wife's uncle, who has now passed on, was a pipefitter on the Idaho. He talked about "Pearl" often. They were in port there for a period of time, but were out to sea on December 7th.
He would not buy anything from Japan. Nothing. No trucks. No cars. No clothes. No electronics. No appliances. Nothing. He never forgave them.
After the Korean War he came home and settled back into farming. He'd had enough adventure.
My wife's uncle, who has now passed on, was a pipefitter on the Idaho. He talked about "Pearl" often. They were in port there for a period of time, but were out to sea on December 7th.
He would not buy anything from Japan. Nothing. No trucks. No cars. No clothes. No electronics. No appliances. Nothing. He never forgave them.
After the Korean War he came home and settled back into farming. He'd had enough adventure.
BkerChuck
Second hand vegetarian
John,
My thoughts are with you and your family today....
My thoughts are with you and your family today....
beemerdons
Certifiable Old Fart
Exact same scenario with my Uncle Drew, first went motorcycling riding behind him on his Triumph Thunderbird in the Fifties!
My Uncle Drew was on the USS Maryland that morning, just across the Estuary from USS Arizona She made it out of the Harbor, being strafed and Dive Bombers making torpedo runs at her! JSNS, RIP!
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beemerdons
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Panman
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Lost my 96 year old Father in-law this last June a week before I left for Spearfish. He lived in Canada at the break of the war but was born here in the States and had dual citizenship. He came down to the States and joined the Navy as he didn't like the looks of the Canadian Navy's uniform.
Two years on a sub chaser and two on a bird farm. God rest your soul Don Dawson, you were a good man.
Two years on a sub chaser and two on a bird farm. God rest your soul Don Dawson, you were a good man.
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beemerdons
Certifiable Old Fart
beemerdons
Certifiable Old Fart
From yesterday's Phoenix Arizona Republic Newspaper, Survivors ringing the Bell of USS Arizona: https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/best-reads/2015/12/07/uss-arizona-survivors-meet-ua-tucson/76885258/
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My personal rememberance of Dec 7th?
US Navy, 1978-1984. MM1/SS (nuke) on the USS James Madison SSBN-627(G). Fleet ballistic submarine. After a refueling (new nuclear reactor) overhaul, sea trials, tests, tests, and more tests including numerous torpedo and 1 missle shot, then normal patrols & cross training to stand EM watchstations; December 7, 1983 was the day I walked off for the last time. 3 yrs, 9 months, 28 days on The Jolly Dolly, aka, Big Fat Lumbering Pig. Never saw it again, scrapped '90-'92.
US Navy, 1978-1984. MM1/SS (nuke) on the USS James Madison SSBN-627(G). Fleet ballistic submarine. After a refueling (new nuclear reactor) overhaul, sea trials, tests, tests, and more tests including numerous torpedo and 1 missle shot, then normal patrols & cross training to stand EM watchstations; December 7, 1983 was the day I walked off for the last time. 3 yrs, 9 months, 28 days on The Jolly Dolly, aka, Big Fat Lumbering Pig. Never saw it again, scrapped '90-'92.
El Toro
Innocent Bystander
I just looked up the Idaho's history before and during WWII.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Idaho_(BB-42)
Like so many old guys who served in WWII but weren't politicians, Uncle Ed did not spend a lot of time talking about his time in the Navy. But he did tell a story from time to time. I was surprised at how easy it was to follow the story line in the link based on my recollection of stories told in the shade of trees over cigarettes and beer. His brother, my father in law, was assigned to be a gunner on ships in the Merchant Marine. My own father was assigned to the Great Lakes Naval Training Center, played the trombone in the band, and worked on modern technological warfare ... you know ... stuff like that new fangled radar, and sonar, fancy bomb sights and such.
Thanks for starting the thread.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Idaho_(BB-42)
Like so many old guys who served in WWII but weren't politicians, Uncle Ed did not spend a lot of time talking about his time in the Navy. But he did tell a story from time to time. I was surprised at how easy it was to follow the story line in the link based on my recollection of stories told in the shade of trees over cigarettes and beer. His brother, my father in law, was assigned to be a gunner on ships in the Merchant Marine. My own father was assigned to the Great Lakes Naval Training Center, played the trombone in the band, and worked on modern technological warfare ... you know ... stuff like that new fangled radar, and sonar, fancy bomb sights and such.
Thanks for starting the thread.
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bigjohnsd
2021 BMW R1250GSA
It was an emotional rollercoaster ride yesterday, didn't realize how wiped I was until I got back to the house and had a drink. Relaxing by the pool today. FESTAR and I going to rent bikes and ride on Thursday. No FJRs unfortunately. I think I've got a Bolt and he has a Guzzi.
Uncle Hud
Just another blob of protoplasm using up your oxyg
Sorry I missed this when it was revived this year. Was camping in the pristine jungle of Cumberland Island National Seashore, but hoisted the flask of Bulleit at 0800 on December 7 -- spilling a swig or two on the beach for those not present.
It was quiet and calm, warm and crystal clear, with the sun slightly above the horizon shining directly into my eyes. The contrast between 2015 and 1941 raised goosebumps.
Hud the Stud (everybody's bud)
ETR2 (SS)
USS Tunny (SSN 682)
Homeported at Pearl Harbor 1978-1982
It was quiet and calm, warm and crystal clear, with the sun slightly above the horizon shining directly into my eyes. The contrast between 2015 and 1941 raised goosebumps.
Hud the Stud (everybody's bud)
ETR2 (SS)
USS Tunny (SSN 682)
Homeported at Pearl Harbor 1978-1982
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bigjohnsd
2021 BMW R1250GSA
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It was an emotional rollercoaster ride yesterday, didn't realize how wiped I was until I got back to the house and had a drink. Relaxing by the pool today. FESTAR and I going to rent bikes and ride on Thursday. No FJRs unfortunately. I think I've got a Bolt and he has a Guzzi.</p></blockquote>
The Bolt was a Bust!
Same ******* that designed tthe FJR seat must have had his **** Skinner's on the Bolt Seat as well. 140 miles damn near hospitalized me tailbone.
It was an emotional rollercoaster ride yesterday, didn't realize how wiped I was until I got back to the house and had a drink. Relaxing by the pool today. FESTAR and I going to rent bikes and ride on Thursday. No FJRs unfortunately. I think I've got a Bolt and he has a Guzzi.</p></blockquote>
The Bolt was a Bust!
Same ******* that designed tthe FJR seat must have had his **** Skinner's on the Bolt Seat as well. 140 miles damn near hospitalized me tailbone.
Niehart
Pie Smuggler
bigjohnsd
2021 BMW R1250GSA
Sorry Don, but the Maryland did not get underway and out of the harbor. The only ship to get underway was the Nevada, she made it partway down the channel before being beached at Hospital Point to prevent her from possibly blocking the channel due to the attention she was receiving from the attacking planes.
Here is a link to the Maryland's after action report:
https://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/ships/logs/BB/bb46-Pearl.html
beemerdons
Certifiable Old Fart
^^^^^Many Thanks for the clarification Big John, it was very hard to get my Uncle to talk about December 7th. Did talk about "Fighting Mary" after she was refitted and went back out to sea, he was upset when she was scrapped after the war. I researched USS Maryland while a student in 1974 on the GI Bill at Cal-Poly San Luis Obispo, California; what I discovered at that time was that she had steam and had attempted an escape. Obviously bad information!^^^^^ https://www.pearlharborinhawaii.com/ussmaryland.html
"On December 7, 1941, when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, the USS Maryland was moored at Battleship Row alongside the ill-fated USS Oklahoma, which capsized as a result of the bombings. The USS Maryland, on the other hand, was able to open fire against the enemy and send teams of its sailors on rescue missions to retrieve those stranded on the other battleships. The ship was eventually struck by two bombs, one of which exploded in the ship’s hull and caused serious flooding."
https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2015/12/07/survivors-return-to-pearl-harbor-74-years-after-attack
"On December 7, 1941, when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, the USS Maryland was moored at Battleship Row alongside the ill-fated USS Oklahoma, which capsized as a result of the bombings. The USS Maryland, on the other hand, was able to open fire against the enemy and send teams of its sailors on rescue missions to retrieve those stranded on the other battleships. The ship was eventually struck by two bombs, one of which exploded in the ship’s hull and caused serious flooding."
https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2015/12/07/survivors-return-to-pearl-harbor-74-years-after-attack
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