Drain Excess 1 Quart Oil

[Zackly]

2003 FJR

Has anyone figured out how to extract the quart of oil left in the engine after every oil change. The 2003 FJR holds 5.1 total quarts of oil. However, it only drains approximately 4 quarts.

I was unsuccessful with routing a small suction hose through either the oil filter drain or the engine pan drain to locate the remaining oil left in the engine.

I also had limited success with tipping/raising/lowering the bike to enhance draining.

Your expertise is appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

 

[escapefjrtist]

Normal quantity for an oil change is 4.23 qts [4 liters] with a filter change. A completely dry engine, fresh out of the factory takes more to fill due to empty oil galleys and such. On a normal oil change you'll never get all the oil out.

What are you trying to accomplish?

--G

 

[FJRay]

It's pretty easy right after you remove the exhaust and then drop the bottom cover. There are tons of bikes out there with well over 100k on them without issues. What little bit is left doesn't really matter. What's more important is which oil are you using so you can always match it for viscosity and additive package so you don't foul the muffler bearings.

There, now I feel better. Have a nice day. :yahoo:

 

[SkooterG]

2003 FJR

Has anyone figured out how to extract the quart of oil left in the engine after every oil change. The 2003 FJR holds 5.1 total quarts of oil. However, it only drains approximately 4 quarts.

I was unsuccessful with routing a small suction hose through either the oil filter drain or the engine pan drain to locate the remaining oil left in the engine.

I also had limited success with tipping/raising/lowering the bike to enhance draining.

Your expertise is appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

Holy Cow dude! Un-clinch that sphincter just a little bit! You'll never get it all out.

Taking it off the C-stand and putting it on the sidestand will result in a bit more coming out, but probably like a tenth of a quart.

 

[johnny80s]

wow

 

[not2shabby]

Total motor disassembly and flush all parts in a parts washer works for me....

 

[Geezer]

I'm going to assume that you have a good reason to want all of the oil out besides just that it is used and needs to be changed.

If you have something very harmful in there then it may be worth your while to drop the exhaust and remove the oil pan. Other than that, your best bet is to simply drain the oil normally, fill it up and run the engine briefly to mix the old with the new, then drain it again. Repeat this three or four times and you will have such a small amount of the old stuff still mixed in that it should not matter what it is.

 

[lnewlf]

Duh!-just turn the bike upside down..geez already..

 

[SouthernCruizer]

While you're draining those last nano specs of oil, don't forget to lube your muffler bearings and change the air in your tires.

 

[wfooshee]

No vehicle in the uiniverse drains the oil completely when changing. Cars will have small pools in the valve gallery, or stuck in the pump, whatever. Adding new oil dilutes the old oil enough that it doesn't matter.

Unless you've gotten water in the oil (as one member recently had happen) then there's nothing to worry about. Drain it, bolt it, fill it, ride it.

If you've gotten contaminated oil, with gas or water in it, then multiple consecutive changes with a bit of a run in between to mix and dilute the stuff is the only way.

If you're worried about metal in the oil, then draining wouldn't be enough anyway, you need to go ahead and drop the pan, at least, and depending on what's discovered, more serious work may be in order.

 

[wheatonFJR]

wow

agree.

I'm going to assume that you have a good reason to want all of the oil out besides just that it is used and needs to be changed.

If you have something very harmful in there then it may be worth your while to drop the exhaust and remove the oil pan. Other than that, your best bet is to simply drain the oil normally, fill it up and run the engine briefly to mix the old with the new, then drain it again. Repeat this three or four times and you will have such a small amount of the old stuff still mixed in that it should not matter what it is.

The Geezer Oil ********...

:lol:

 

[fjrob1300]

Zackly, don't get discouraged by some of the answers you get. Your bike will be fine. It's up to you to dicide who's trying to help you and who's being themselves. <_<

Use motor bike rated oil and change your filter.

Rob.

ps welcome to the forum.

 

[Fred W]

+1 to what Rob said.

Yeah. most engines don't drain completely when doing an oil change. But the FJR is particularly onerous in that there is > 15% of the total oil volume that is not drained during a normal oil and filter change. Couple that with the manufacturer's recommendation (not followed by too many people) of only changing the oil filter on every other oil change and there is a goodly amount of oil left behind.

The unfortunate truth is that there is really no good way to get those dregs out of the engine. Your best bet is to be sure to use a good quality oil (of your choice) and change it on schedule. As much as any online forum likes to dwell on motor oil, it really isn't as mystical and magical; as we may want to pretend it is. Leaving that pint and a half of used oil will never cause your engine any problems.

There are many other far more serious things to worry about in your motorcycle life. Like tahrs...

 

[ahchiu]

You ca get a little more out by tipping the bike to both sides and holding for 30 sec per side to let the oil run out of the nooks.

 

[HawkWing]

1. Bike on side stand, drain pan beneath drain plug.

2. Remove (drain) plug and (oil) filter.

3. Wait one day.

4. Replace drain pan with clean receptacle.

5. Repeat #4 daily until no oil appears in receptacle.

6. WARNING!! This may take a while. Don't forget that you're changing the oil.

 

[FJRBluesman]

I guess the bigger question is why? Why get it all out? To what extent? I mean if it was truly all out, what would protect your motor when you fire it up until the new oil gets to all the parts under pressure? Wear happens with metal to metal contact, oil is the lube or liquid bearings (so to speak) that protect the moving parts. Let that small amount stay in.

You'll never get it all out unless you disassemble the motor and trans. Way too many little passages, etc, that the oil clings to. The surface are is huge of all the internally lubed parts in the engine and trans. :dribble:

Ever try to completely clean the oil pan (bucket wheat ever) after an oil change? Looks like the old oil is done draining into a container, but you wipe the inside and there's still a bunch of oil clinging to it, that's without it hiding like in the motor and trans.

Relax, drain it till it stops draining, refill, and ride.

 

[08FJR4ME]

Man you guys are brutal on Newbies!

Now you dun scared the po boy off. He's only obsesive compulsive a bit.

Geeeeesh!

Dave

 

[johnny80s]

Man you guys are brutal on Newbies!

Now you dun scared the po boy off. He's only obsesive compulsive a bit.

Geeeeesh!

Dave

Let's face it, that was pretty tame. If he can't take a little ribbing then he won't make it here that long any ways.

Come on Zackly don't take no ****. Then they will know you are weak.

 

[wheatonFJR]

...Come on Zackly don't take no ****. Then they will know you are weak.

Yeah, and keep your soap on a rope...especially if "fill in the blank" is in the neighborhood.