The Hindenburg blows up in New Jersey. 35 die. Blame the U.S. Navy for hoarding helium for their own airship fleet. Wouldn't sell helium to Germany. The Hindenburg's sister ship, the Graf Zeppelin, flew for 12 trouble-free years including the first circumnavigation of the globe...31,000 miles in 21 days. So what's wrong with hydrogen filled air ships?Do tell! How about these once great new technologies?
Hydrogen filled air ships
Funny, never heard anything bad about the rest of the White Star fleet.The soft iron Titantic
The Edsel...One of THE most collected cars from the late 50's/early 60's. The car was a marketing disaster. Overpricing, quality control and poor styling killed the Edsel, not technological problems.The Edsal
I want some of what you're smokingThe Buster Brown Xray shoe machine
35 successful flying years with only 1 fatal accident.The Concorde
Just what the heck is your point with the examples you provided?Just because the engineering world "can" do something, doesn't mean it's the smartest thing to do.
Apparently I already did. Or are you saying the design of the clutch determines "scooter-ism". So an FJR with a lever and hydraulic line is a motorcycle and an FJR with an electronically servo-controlled clutch is a scooter? So using your impeccable logic, if I buy a Majesty or Burgman and put a cable or hyrdraulic clutch on it, that makes it a motorcycle?Aw heck, just buy a damn scooter and be done with it!
Your mistake here is thinking that there's no clutch. It's still there. What's missing is the clutch lever. The assumption, based on similar systems used in automobiles, is the portion of the ECU that controls the clutch would monitor engine speed and/or road speed and disengage the clutch when engine rpms or wheel revolutions indicated the need for the clutch to be "pulled in".OK so the 06AE is not an automatic transmission. So short of selecting neutral-- when at a stop--how does one keep the bike from moving forward-- without a clutch for disengaging the tranny from the drive system? I assume there is no torque converter as part of the system.
My point here is the design of the Titanic didn't sink it. Running it into an iceberg did. And the technology wasn't what killed over 1500 people. It was the lack of sufficient numbers of lifeboats."Funny, never heard anything bad about the rest of the White Star fleet."
Damn dude! The rest?! Isn't one giant mistake bad enough?
Where's the rap on technology? It was simply a new model of car that bombed due to poor marketing, poor styling and poor workmanship. It's happened before, it's happened since. A more telling argument would have been if you'd used the Corvair as an example, but I guess 40 odd years of Volkswagens and Porsches with air cooled engines and swing axle transmissions would have proved you wrong, huh?"The Edsel...One of THE most collected cars from the late 50's/early 60's. The car was a marketing disaster. Overpricing, quality control and poor styling killed the Edsel, not technological problems."
Bottom line; new technology... and it still didn't make it, did it?
I'm giving you half a point on this one. I never heard of an xray shoe machine until today. but the limited research I just did (ain't Google wonderful) indicates a technology in use from the early '20s through at least 1970. 50 years of use kind of blows your "unnecessary technology" argument, and I can't seem to find any statistics backing up your assessment the machines "create radiation poisoning.""The Buster Brown Xray shoe machine." " I want some of what you're smoking."
Read your history books. Believe it or not, years ago the xray shoe machine was a "new" technology. Unfortunately it had a tendency to create radiation poisioning.
Oh please...there is ongoing research and development underway right now for continued commercial SST ventures. A French/Japanese joint venture. Sukhoi, Lockheed/Martin, Boeing -- all committed to continue the study of SST flight."35 successful flying years with only 1 fatal accident."
Here's one more techie achievement that didn't continue, and struggled to stay financially afloat. Notice no one is making super-sonic passenger planes any more?
Look again, Sparky. This is fjrpilot1945's thread. Not mine. My you do jump to incorrect conclusions."Just what the heck is your point with the examples you provided?"
Simple! Your thread, "Electronic Shift, you're gonna want it!"
A- I don't personally give a rat's ass if anyone, or everyone, likes it. That's Yamaha's problem, not mine.Points are:
A- Since you haven't driven it, you're guessing will like it.
B- If you want it, go for it, but don't think we're all gonna want it.
C- Not all new technology is so great.
I'm doing no more than anyone else in these non-stop AE threads. I'm speculating on it's operation. Not once have I said it's better than, or will replace, the current state of technology. However, I have pointed out that dismissing it because it IS new technology is rank Luddism, plain and simple.Personally I think it would make a lot more sense to report on the AE "after" you spend some time on it.
You've shown us you're capable of that innumerable times.I could be wrong
Would these be the same magazines, one of which recently place the FJR dead last out of 5 Sport Touring bikes tested, because the sound of the motor "lacked character"?but I believe that's the way motorcycle magazines recommend most new bikes.
See a) above, this time substituting "hope" for "likes".Here's to hoping the AE is everything you hope it is.
Can you ride and shoot with your left hand at the same time? I'd be TOTALLY INTERESTED in one if so!I think Yamaha is going to try to tap in to the law enforcement market with the Fjr E shift. Sounds like the perfect setup for all day city riding.
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