Engine dies on an 08 FJR

[salan10]

Less than 2000 miles on my 08 FJR and I have this problem: I Put the bike into first gear with the clutch pulled in and the side stand down and engine dies. If I re-start the engine in neutral, put the side stqnd up, pull in the clutch put it into first then it will go. Any ideas?

 

[Badcat]

You are kidding right?

 

[r1byker]

Uh, have you ever considered that it's designed to do that? A safety thing and all. Try looking in the owner's manual.

 

[rushes]

Better take it back to the dealer while it's still under warranty.

 

[salan10]

You are kidding right?

No I'm not kidding. This just started to happen today. I am on a long road trip and up until now I did not have this problem. I think it may be a faulty switch up by the clutch but I am not sure.

 

[r1byker]

If you don't get it fixed, I'll take the bike off your hands for cheap. I could live with that problem.

 

[Big-D]

Your FJR is suppose to do that. So that problem (as you refer to it) has always existed. All I can say is you are lucky it is not Friday!! But you are new to the Forum, but have no fear, you will learn if you stick around long enough!!

 

[salan10]

Uh, have you ever considered that it's designed to do that? A safety thing and all. Try looking in the owner's manual.

No the safety circuit is not working correctly. Think about it. If you pull in the clutch and put it in gear the bike should not stall until you try to engage the clutch with the side stand down. My bike stalls when I put it into first gear with the clutch pulled in or disengaged.

 

[r1byker]

If you don't get it fixed, I'll take the bike off your hands for cheap. I could live with that problem. My bike does the same thing.

 

[Big-D]

I am really sorry, but now that is an oxy-moron. How many people do you know that engage first gear without first pulling in the clutch lever, there by, disengaging the clutch.

Perhaps an AE version??

 

[UselessPickles]

I'll bite...

The bike will only start if it is in neutral, or if the kickstand is up AND the clutch is disengaged while the bike is in any gear.

If the bike is in any gear and the kickstand is down, the engine will stop (doesn't matter whether the clutch is engaged). This is a safety feature to prevent you from driving around with the kickstand down.

Possible reasons that this problem "just started" today:

1. Your bike had a faulty kickstand switch that suddenly started working (unlikely).
2. You never tried putting your bike into gear with the kickstand down before.

 

[salan10]

I'll bite...
The bike will only start if it is in neutral, or if the kickstand is up AND the clutch is disengaged while the bike is in any gear.

If the bike is in any gear and the kickstand is down, the engine will stop (doesn't matter whether the clutch is engaged). This is a safety feature to prevent you from driving around with the kickstand down.

Possible reasons that this problem "just started" today:

1. Your bike had a faulty kickstand switch that suddenly started working (unlikely).
2. You never tried putting your bike into gear with the kickstand down before.

It may be true that I never tried putting the bike into first gear with the side stand down and just discovered today how this safety feature works. But I rode an 03 FJR for 7 years and that bike worked differently. You could put the 03 into first gear with the clutch engaged and the side stand down and it would stall only when you engaged the clutch. Could the 08 work differently, that is, the way you described?

 

[rushes]

I'll bite...
The bike will only start if it is in neutral, or if the kickstand is up AND the clutch is disengaged while the bike is in any gear.

If the bike is in any gear and the kickstand is down, the engine will stop (doesn't matter whether the clutch is engaged). This is a safety feature to prevent you from driving around with the kickstand down.

Possible reasons that this problem "just started" today:

1. Your bike had a faulty kickstand switch that suddenly started working (unlikely).
2. You never tried putting your bike into gear with the kickstand down before.

It may be true that I never tried putting the bike into first gear with the side stand down and just discovered today how this safety feature works. But I rode an 03 FJR for 7 years and that bike worked differently. You could put the 03 into first gear with the clutch engaged and the side stand down and it would stall only when you engaged the clutch. Could the 08 work differently, that is, the way you described?

I gotta ask why yur wantn to ride with the sidestand down anyway.

It just sounds crazy to me....

:dntknw:

 

[RadioHowie]

Run, salan10, RUN!!!

The vultures are circling!

 

[salan10]

I'll bite...
The bike will only start if it is in neutral, or if the kickstand is up AND the clutch is disengaged while the bike is in any gear.

If the bike is in any gear and the kickstand is down, the engine will stop (doesn't matter whether the clutch is engaged). This is a safety feature to prevent you from driving around with the kickstand down.

Possible reasons that this problem "just started" today:

1. Your bike had a faulty kickstand switch that suddenly started working (unlikely).
2. You never tried putting your bike into gear with the kickstand down before.

It may be true that I never tried putting the bike into first gear with the side stand down and just discovered today how this safety feature works. But I rode an 03 FJR for 7 years and that bike worked differently. You could put the 03 into first gear with the clutch engaged and the side stand down and it would stall only when you engaged the clutch. Could the 08 work differently, that is, the way you described?

I gotta ask why yur wantn to ride with the sidestand down anyway.

It just sounds crazy to me....

:dntknw:

I don't want to ride with the side stand down. I just want my bike's safety features to work the way they were designed. It seemed to me that there was something wrong when I happened to have the side stand down and put the bike into gear, and it stalled. My 03 FJR would not have stalled at that point. Since the 08 did I thought there was something amiss.

 

[Badcat]

I'll bite...
The bike will only start if it is in neutral, or if the kickstand is up AND the clutch is disengaged while the bike is in any gear.

If the bike is in any gear and the kickstand is down, the engine will stop (doesn't matter whether the clutch is engaged). This is a safety feature to prevent you from driving around with the kickstand down.

Possible reasons that this problem "just started" today:

1. Your bike had a faulty kickstand switch that suddenly started working (unlikely).
2. You never tried putting your bike into gear with the kickstand down before.

It may be true that I never tried putting the bike into first gear with the side stand down and just discovered today how this safety feature works. But I rode an 03 FJR for 7 years and that bike worked differently. You could put the 03 into first gear with the clutch engaged and the side stand down and it would stall only when you engaged the clutch. Could the 08 work differently, that is, the way you described?

I gotta ask why yur wantn to ride with the sidestand down anyway.

It just sounds crazy to me....

:dntknw:

I don't want to ride with the side stand down. I just want my bike's safety features to work the way they were designed. It seemed to me that there was something wrong when I happened to have the side stand down and put the bike into gear, and it stalled. My 03 FJR would not have stalled at that point. Since the 08 did I thought there was something amiss.

The purpose of the safety feature you question is to keep you from rolling out with the side stand down. In gear, side stand down, bike dies. That is how it is designed and how it works. If your 03 did not work that way it was faulty. No bike that I have ever seen has an interlock on the clutch lever.

 

[madmike2]

I'll bite...
The bike will only start if it is in neutral, or if the kickstand is up AND the clutch is disengaged while the bike is in any gear.

If the bike is in any gear and the kickstand is down, the engine will stop (doesn't matter whether the clutch is engaged). This is a safety feature to prevent you from driving around with the kickstand down.

Possible reasons that this problem "just started" today:

1. Your bike had a faulty kickstand switch that suddenly started working (unlikely).
2. You never tried putting your bike into gear with the kickstand down before.

It may be true that I never tried putting the bike into first gear with the side stand down and just discovered today how this safety feature works. But I rode an 03 FJR for 7 years and that bike worked differently. You could put the 03 into first gear with the clutch engaged and the side stand down and it would stall only when you engaged the clutch. Could the 08 work differently, that is, the way you described?

Uhmmmmm....my '04 taught me that once the stand was down and I "snicked" it into gear the engine would stop.

Uh...er....my '05 does exactly the same thing. Stand down, put it in gear and the engine quits until the transmission is in neutral or the sidestand is UP.

Maybe there was something wrong with your '03.

 

[rushes]

I'll bite...
The bike will only start if it is in neutral, or if the kickstand is up AND the clutch is disengaged while the bike is in any gear.

If the bike is in any gear and the kickstand is down, the engine will stop (doesn't matter whether the clutch is engaged). This is a safety feature to prevent you from driving around with the kickstand down.

Possible reasons that this problem "just started" today:

1. Your bike had a faulty kickstand switch that suddenly started working (unlikely).
2. You never tried putting your bike into gear with the kickstand down before.

It may be true that I never tried putting the bike into first gear with the side stand down and just discovered today how this safety feature works. But I rode an 03 FJR for 7 years and that bike worked differently. You could put the 03 into first gear with the clutch engaged and the side stand down and it would stall only when you engaged the clutch. Could the 08 work differently, that is, the way you described?

I gotta ask why yur wantn to ride with the sidestand down anyway.

It just sounds crazy to me....

:dntknw:

I don't want to ride with the side stand down. I just want my bike's safety features to work the way they were designed. It seemed to me that there was something wrong when I happened to have the side stand down and put the bike into gear, and it stalled. My 03 FJR would not have stalled at that point. Since the 08 did I thought there was something amiss.

Take the 03 back to the dealer...

:thumbsup:

BTW, yur makin my bourbon much more enjoyable. Thanks!

 

[Auburn]

I'll bite...
The bike will only start if it is in neutral, or if the kickstand is up AND the clutch is disengaged while the bike is in any gear.

If the bike is in any gear and the kickstand is down, the engine will stop (doesn't matter whether the clutch is engaged). This is a safety feature to prevent you from driving around with the kickstand down.

Possible reasons that this problem "just started" today:

1. Your bike had a faulty kickstand switch that suddenly started working (unlikely).
2. You never tried putting your bike into gear with the kickstand down before.

It may be true that I never tried putting the bike into first gear with the side stand down and just discovered today how this safety feature works. But I rode an 03 FJR for 7 years and that bike worked differently. You could put the 03 into first gear with the clutch engaged and the side stand down and it would stall only when you engaged the clutch. Could the 08 work differently, that is, the way you described?

I gotta ask why yur wantn to ride with the sidestand down anyway.

It just sounds crazy to me....

:dntknw:

I don't want to ride with the side stand down. I just want my bike's safety features to work the way they were designed. It seemed to me that there was something wrong when I happened to have the side stand down and put the bike into gear, and it stalled. My 03 FJR would not have stalled at that point. Since the 08 did I thought there was something amiss.

No problem, interlock is working properly