EXPDSGT
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I would bet the tire pressure was off; esp. the front tire. Also as someone else said -- it the tires are worn -- that will do what you describe. My FJR does none of the things you describe.
You know if you guys put where you lived in your profile you may be able to get some current owners to offer up a test ride....
Rockaway, NJ??? I'd go back to keeping it hiddenYou know if you guys put where you lived in your profile you may be able to get some current owners to offer up a test ride....
I didn't realize I had not added that FIXED.....
No problem! Just slap some tuning forks on the POS you just bought and call it good! Seriously, that's a nice ride.Hello:Thought I'd share what happened if anyone is interested.....
After riding the Blackbird, I thought I'd look for something a bit lighter and perhaps sportier than the FJR.
Sat on a Ducati ST3, but couldn't get a test ride. Ruled it out due to a fair number of folks online complaining of buzzy handlebars. Also sat on the Triumph Sprint ST, but couldn't ride that either. Not sure why, but the Triumph just didn't click for me.
Did a lot more reading and saw that there were some folks using their Kawasaki ZX14's for touring duties.
While waiting to test ride the ZX14, had the chance to ride a new BMW K1200R Sport. Not my favorite style of the K1200, but very impressive motor, handling, and overall feel.
Rode the ZX14 today and was very impressed with how manageable it was to ride. As long as the throttle is used judiciously, it's not scary at all, handles beautifully, and is really really really STUPID fast! I really liked the bike, but was pretty unsure about the image the bike portrays. (for a somewhat overweight, balding, married, 40 yr. old anyway)
The plan was to visit the nearest BMW dealer tomorrow to sit on and perhaps ride a K1200S, but leaning towards the ZX14 due to the huge difference in cost for a BMW.
By luck, my friend with the Blackbird (who accompanied me to the Kaw. dealer today) stopped at the Honda dealer on his way home. Called me to say there was a used K1200S parked amongst their new sport bikes.
The bike was an '07 with just 2,550 miles in blue/silver/black. It's plenty fast, but didn't feel quite so stupid fast as the ZX14. Handling is very intuitive and the motor is smooth as can be. I bought it!
Thanks again for all who offered their feedback. This is a great forum.
I guarantee she will love the new 650.It is a blast!Take her to the BMW dealership and look at the new 800 F series.Very similar but she can buy 2.5 Kawasakis to one F serisGlad you, too, are back in Orangevale safe from the southern part of the state! :clapping:Sounds to me like you'd be super happy with a FZ-1. Blackbirds are great bikes, certainly not apple to apples comparison. We have a blackbird and FJR owner on line and his remarks are similar to your findings and he uses the bikes to compliment each other. He has said that if he could only have one, it would be the FJR.
And you must be talking about me, though I'm one of a few I know of on the site who own both Blackbirds and FJRs.
Both my bikes have aftermarket suspensions and some farkles aimed at performance; my XX also has lighter aftermarket wheels and Micron pipe with CF can (haven't yet installed the Muzzy full system on the FJR).
The XX is lighter than the FJR -- probably a little under 100 lbs with the mods I have, and with them similarly loaded or unloaded with luggage. It does have more horseponies than the FJR, though less grunt in the mid range. It won't keep up with a modern liter sport bike in the top end HP department, but it sure does have the full powerband, esp. with a pipe.
A smoother 4 cyl. engine you will not find than on the XX.
They are both sport touring bikes, but the XX is closer to the sport side of the compromise and the FJR closer to the touring side. Neither is a full sport bike.
I mostly use the XX as a one up, full day, mountain passes and twisties mount. I use the FJR mostly for two up riding, and long distance trips (have done same on XX, but nowhere near as comfortable). On either bike, most of my riding is in twisties (blessed to live where I do), and the FJR does a great job there within its limits. I'm sure that on the XX I could beat myself on the FJR through the twisties, but would probably scare the **** out of myself and I doing it -- they're both good enough and quick enough to be able to go too fast in that kind of an ignorant competition.
I LOVE both bikes and cannot imagine selling either (this is my second XX), BUT . . .
IF I had to get down to one bike, it'd be the FJR. It is simply the better all around bike. It does nothing the best, but as a platform of compromises, it is unequalled in my opinion. Set up the suspension right, and it will do an admirable job in the twisties as long as you aren't trying to race it.
If I had the SV650, I'd feel the need for more of a tourer to keep it company in the garage. It's just a question of degree. Hard to argue against an XX for me, but FOR ME, the FJR gets the most use and works the best for the range of riding I do -- esp. for taking the GF along -- and she LOVES riding**.
**She's now got the hots (and oil company motivation) to take the MSF course and buy a Kwak 650R Ninja -- the 2 cylinder in candy blue. She sat on one last Thursday and fell in love. (Edit to note: went home for lunch today and see the Kawasaki brochure out on the counter and a Post-it note with an arrow pointing to the full page picture of the blue 650R leaned over in a curve and the note: "My Bike!!!" LOL -- and then I found two print outs of glowing magazine reviews with specs -- open on the coffee table.)
Joe buying any motorcycle is like buying shoes.You know you have the right fit when it is comfortable and works for you.The FJR is a solid platform IMO to build up a rock solid sport tourer that wont break your bank.I got mine so my wife and I can ride together.If I were to ride only solo then I would not have picked the FJR but the FZ1.I also love riding my buds Suzuki SV since he changed the bar setup to a Heli bar and a Rifle windscreen.Might look into that one for you.For the past few months, I've been planning to buy a new FJR, but just couldn't pull the trigger before actually riding one. Last week, a friend of a friend was kind enough to allow me to take his '03 for a good 1/2 hour ride that included some gentle curving roads, stop and go in-town, and a bit of interstate.
My current (and first) bike is an '04 Suzuki SV650S. I really like it a lot and am glad it was my first. My plan was even to keep it for a while after purchasing the FJR just for quick rides on the twisties near home. I wanted the FJR for a more comfortable riding position, smoother ride, and long-distance touring capability. While I'm working on improving my riding posture, my hands still tend to get numb on the SV due, I'm sure, in part to the riding position and partially due to the buzzy V-twin motor.
I've read all the fantastic reviews and probably thousands of posts on this forum. What I expected with the FJR was a much bigger, but still sporty feeling ride. What I found (at least on this particular '03) was that it felt like the handlebars were fighting me back at in low speed turns (neighborhood speed) and an exhaust note that was extremely unsatisfying. In the 45-50mph curving roads, it was nice, but still felt big to me. On the highway, it felt fantastic and would be even better with a slightly taller windscreen.
Another friend, who was also sure the FJR would be my next bike, offered to let me ride his '97 CBRXX Blackbird. Obviously, not apples to apples, but the Blackbird is almost the same weight as the FJR and similar power. I hope this isn't sacreligious on this forum, but I LOVED the Blackbird. The throttle response was fantastic, it sounded great, shifted perfectly, and handled like I expected a big sportbike to handle. This bike is about to turn 50k miles and was as smooth and tight as could be. The ride was only about 20 minutes and I really don't think I can live with the seating position for a 250-300 mile day.
OK, have at it...... You won't hurt my feelings. What's wrong with me? What was wrong with the '03FJR I rode? What, if any, other bikes should I look at? What bikes did you consider before choosing the FJR and why? (I'm now considering Ducati ST3 or used BMW K1200GT or RS)
Thanks very much for your thoughts. I've really enjoyed just learning about the FJR and was looking forward to joining you as an owner (and may still do so, just not so sure now!)
Joe
St. Louis, MO
YOU RODE THE NEW CONNIE? I BET SHE WAS ONE HOT TICKET :dribble: Guess what they are going to make a police version of it tooHello:Thought I'd share what happened if anyone is interested.....
After riding the Blackbird, I thought I'd look for something a bit lighter and perhaps sportier than the FJR.
Sat on a Ducati ST3, but couldn't get a test ride. Ruled it out due to a fair number of folks online complaining of buzzy handlebars. Also sat on the Triumph Sprint ST, but couldn't ride that either. Not sure why, but the Triumph just didn't click for me.
Did a lot more reading and saw that there were some folks using their Kawasaki ZX14's for touring duties.
While waiting to test ride the ZX14, had the chance to ride a new BMW K1200R Sport. Not my favorite style of the K1200, but very impressive motor, handling, and overall feel.
Rode the ZX14 today and was very impressed with how manageable it was to ride. As long as the throttle is used judiciously, it's not scary at all, handles beautifully, and is really really really STUPID fast! I really liked the bike, but was pretty unsure about the image the bike portrays. (for a somewhat overweight, balding, married, 40 yr. old anyway)
The plan was to visit the nearest BMW dealer tomorrow to sit on and perhaps ride a K1200S, but leaning towards the ZX14 due to the huge difference in cost for a BMW.
By luck, my friend with the Blackbird (who accompanied me to the Kaw. dealer today) stopped at the Honda dealer on his way home. Called me to say there was a used K1200S parked amongst their new sport bikes.
The bike was an '07 with just 2,550 miles in blue/silver/black. It's plenty fast, but didn't feel quite so stupid fast as the ZX14. Handling is very intuitive and the motor is smooth as can be. I bought it!
Thanks again for all who offered their feedback. This is a great forum.
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