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Shawnking ....You are correct sir, 6-2, 265lbs. Weight of either bike does not concern me. Question though.....The ST seems to have a few more.....nice to haves...such as the 2 glove boxes with the auxillary adapter. I dont know... I am all over the place right now.

My Gold Wing has two glove boxes, and a trunk and a cruise and........and my FJR is still more fun to ride.

"auxillary adapter." I think you are talking about a 12V power point, my FJR has one in the glove box that is powered as long as the key is on, I have used it to charge my cell phone.

You really need to ride them, to me a Honda ST is nothing but a stripped down gold wing.

 
Dude.. It's almost the weekend. Test ride both bikes this weekend and report back! I'm 95% sure I know what you will say afterwards.

Oh... and make sure you get a look at the ST with bags removed :puke: . You will not always want those dumbells hanging off your bike.

 
Last Fall I decided to put the v-twin RoadStar to the rear of the garage and try something a little more comfortable and fun! A Goldwing was just too huge for a single rider (didn't think it necessary to carry around a couch on the back) so my thoughts turned to the Honda ST.

After calling a local dealer he asked why I would choose a ST over an FJR?? I asked why he's asking that, thinking that he only sold Yamaha's. He said he had both on the floor, but in his opinion the FJR is more bike for the money and it would be worth investigating.

I did. And guess what?? That's right... I went with the FJR.

I liked the looks, handling, sound, smell, feel, touch, etc. of the FJR and when looking at the reviews from bike magazines along with the price tags, it wasn't a difficult decision for me. That being said, others may like the ST better in the looks, handling, sound, smell, feel, and touch department. The heat issue was also part of my decision.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If we all bought FJR's it wouldn't be so unique either.

Maybe the Honda IS for you! :rolleyes:

 
The ST is a great bike by almost any standard.

The FJR is a great bike by almost any standard.

The FJR will put a bigger smile on your face.

I commute with the FJR to work some, and to the grocery store etc for short trips just because it's fun to ride.

Mostly I use it for longer day rides and longer weekends.

More sport than the Honda.

I don't think you will get many here thinking the st is more fun.

Mark

 
tlang,

I've owned an ST (put 16k miles on), but not an FJR, yet.

You sound pretty certain on the sport touring type bike, but mention many others you've looked at. I would say to you, if you were one of my students in a BRC or ERC class, think about something used. Something that's a good deal, and 'close' to what you want.

Someone who hasn't ridden in a long time, may find that "it's not for me". Or you may find that inexpensive naked bike you got a good deal on, "suits my purpose just fine".

It's really hard to call it, if you know what I mean. But one thing for sure... if you're not pretty adept at handling a bike, these big ST's can end up on their sides pretty easy, and that plastic ain't cheap brotha.

You may also get one of the ST's (I prefer the FJR personally), even new, and it works out great, who can say? But for sure, going the used route get's ya back in the saddle, maybe at a price you could even sell it for more then you paid! and you get to "work things out"; like do you want something more upright, like a fazer, or yeah, you can handle the ride in the crotch rocket postion, so the big ST's would be fine, etc etc,

Like others have said, definately take the MSF course first, if yer gonna drop a bike, drop theirs ;)

 
I went from Yamaha to Honda in 1982 and was hard-core Honda until... Until 2003 when my neck couldn't tolerate the ergos and windblast of my CBR XX Blackbird. Then I was ready for the Honda ST. However, I found the FJR less expensive, less weight, more power, better handling and better looks. Now, five years and 44,000 miles later, I'm planning to keep my '03 FJR at least five more years. Only mechanical issue: fork seal went out. I like this bike so much that when it was stolen, recovered and totaled due to extensive cosmetic damage, I bought it back from the insurance company and had it restored.

You, on the other hand, might find the ST perfect.

Big Sky

 
I was an old RT rider and love them still....just not the price. Also since I can be such a cheap person these days most sport touring bike required Super but not the FJR. With the way gas prices going north and if you put alot of miles on the bike....that will add up very quickly.

Brian Faure

Liberty Hill, Texas

 
OH FOR CRIPES SAKE!! Just go buy the damned bike, already!! Three pages of us massaging you is getting old! We need you, Officer, to march into that dealership and drop your very hard earned cash on a Feejer (he he, then when you see one of us tipping the speed scales you will only shake your head and say "man I can't wait to get off work and go riding!"... we get no tickets, and they all lived happily ever after. The end

C

By the way, even though I don't live in your neighborhood, thank you for the work you do!

I ride an 07 and I LOVES me some FJR!

 
Is there anyplace you can rent? I had been away from riding for about four years and was really missing not having a MC but didn't really know what I wanted.

Here in Washington we have a place called Mountain to Sound Motorcycle Rentals, and the ST's were looking interesting to me so I started renting them 1st a ST1100 then a FJR1300 (a 05 heater) and then I tried the ST1300.

Each one of these I took a three day trip on that were 1,300 to 1,500 mile trips so I got a good idea of what each of them were like. I wanted to buy new as I had never owned a new vehicle of any kind till I bought my FJR. The biggest reason I bought the FJR was I had heard that they had fixed the heat issue.

The ST1300 wasn't a bad bike it would run ninety all day and was fairly comfortable maybe a little short on leg room (I'm 6'3") it was just a hot bike to ride. As was the 05 FJR and what I found between the two is this: The ST1300 is a little bit more of a gentleman's MC and the FJR is a little more edgy. But both can be ridden as a Gentleman or with a attitude!

I am pretty much satisfied with my FJR I did put on a riser plate that moved the Handle bars both back and up a inch and a half and some lowering pegs.

You being a police officer you probably know what being responsible is about so I won't tell you to go buy a moped, but keep in mind that this type of bike deserves a lot of respect! It will throw you down hard if you don't respect it. The breaks are good enough to break a wrist.

My first bike was a 650 Triumph a 370 lb bike with a 40 HP motor about a week after I had it, a little to much hand pulling out off some grass at two MPH and I was on my but. I learned respect that day that was 35 years ago and haven't been off since.

The FJR has a 145 HP! The ST type bikes work real well ergo wise and are just plain fun to ride!

Good luck.

 
Heads -- you win. Tails -- you win. You can't go wrong with either bike. The FJR is a SPORT tourer; the ST is a sport TOURER. You get a few more extras with the ST, but you pay more to get it. I think most people here feel that the FJR has a soul that involves you in the ride; the ST takes you places without intruding.
And that, in a nutshell, is the complete answer to your question. QED.

 
Shawnking ....You are correct sir, 6-2, 265lbs. Weight of either bike does not concern me. Question though.....The ST seems to have a few more.....nice to haves...such as the 2 glove boxes with the auxillary adapter. I dont know... I am all over the place right now.
Understandable. I think the key is what others are saying - do you want a bike more on the "Sport" side (the FJR) or the "Touring" side (the ST)? Make that decision and I think your bike decision becomes much easier.

Don't get caught up in the little extras - it's like arguing how many cupholders a Ferrari has. :)

 
While the FJR may be a bit sportier than an ST, it isn't all that much different. It's not like we are comparing a CBR and a Goldwing.

You should definitely ride the two and see which suits your fancy.

I'm pretty sure I could be happy on an ST13, almost as much as my FJR, but my FJR is blue, and everyone knows that blue is faster than any ST colors.

 
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Honda ST 1300 ABS $15599 3yr warranty

FJR comes with ABS $13799

FJR gives you more bang for the buck and you can pick up an extended warranty for about 400 bucks. No brainer. Rode both and the ST will scald your balls in 80 degree heat but is smooth and boring as hell.

 
I had an '06 ST1300 (9000 miles) and then got the '07 FJR (7000 miles).

First and foremost both are great bikes. Frankly my FJR when the throttle bodies are synch'ed up is darned near as smooth at the Honda. My FJR may not be "buttery" smooth but surely isn't bad either.

Bottom line for me was the ST 1300 was hot (heat coming from the seat and the gas tank) and just was not enjoyable above 90F and almost impossible for a day long ride at 100F. The second generation FJR heat management is clearly better than the ST1300. Everyone is different but I can ride a longer day with the FJR and the ST.

You can't go wrong with either one but the FJR is tops in my book.

 
FJR: Big Wood.

ST: you'll still need your Viagra

FWIW, the FJR is a great commuter bike as well as a super-sport tourer. Adj windshield, decent cargo capacity, superb throttle. Gives me many grins on my 64 mile RT commute.

 
Tlang, I just picked up a 2008 and love it. I have ridden the ST many times but the bike just doesn't do it for me. The bike is very vanilla. The FJR has spark. Also the FJR is a great all around bike. You can take the bags off and have a light communter bike or put the bags on with a optional trunk and tank bag and go for 2 weeks on a road trip. The bike is comfortable for long rides, light weight, fast and handles great.

I would say try to get a test ride on both and then make up your mind, that's the best way. Since this is a FJR board, I don't think you will find too many people having bad things to say about the bike. Just demo the ST & FJR and you will get your answer.

Rob

NYS MSF Instructor

 
I went through the same dilemma, and flip flopped constantly between the bikes. Take it from someone that spent alot of time agonizing over this decision that you will not be dissapointed with the FJR. For all the points that everyone on this post has mentioned and then some. but you have to buy which bike calls to you, because if you don't have the urge to just step in the garage and stare at it; you picked the wrong one. This is an interesting post from STN that I started in September when my quest began. Good luck

My post on STN

My Post on ST-Owners

 
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Sounds like you're buying this bike partially for fun, as well as commuter.

Before I bought my first FJR (an '05) I looked at the ST. IMO, the ST just didn't have the sleek lines the FJR had. Plus I preferred an in-line 4 to the ST's V-4 engine. For me it was no contest. The ST just looked a bit too much like a mild mannered lookin' touring machine - sort of like a scaled down Wing. I also heard the ST had engine heat issues. Actually so did my '05 FJR, which was my only gripe about that bike. On hot summers days, I felt like I was straddling a hot wood stove. Because of the heat issue I ended up trading my '05 FJR in on an '07 FJR and the heat issues all but disappeared.

The GenII FJR ('06-'08) will delivery everything you want. And perhaps more importantly, it'll put a smile on your face every time you ride it. ;)

 
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