CHRIS_D
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Joe
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I'm not sure if Beano will be enough for Don.
Good Luck
Good Luck
fjrrider
aka "sprocket"
Yall guys are frekin nuts!
I thought I might have things covered by just bringing ear plugs, apparently thats not gonna be enough!
I thought I might have things covered by just bringing ear plugs, apparently thats not gonna be enough!
beemerdons
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https://www.azbeemers.org/forum/index.php?t...w;topicseen#new Well Guys, there's no way in hell we're going to keep up with Brian "El Jefe" Boles on our trek through and back in Mexico's Copper Canyon. BB took delivery of a brand spanking new 2010 BMW 30th Anniversary F800GS Twin in the Special Colors yesterday from Victory BMW, Chandler. Absolutely gorgeous and striking Motorrader!
Brian was (is) the fastest guy I have ever ridden with off road when he was on his twenty-two year old BMW R100GS "BumbleBeemer"! He is now going to be even faster on this new hot rod BMW GS!
He put 100,000 miles off road on "BumbleBeemer", I would imagine he will put the same mileage off road on his new steed. He presents a nice Ride Report on the 20 year differences between GS's!
Brian was (is) the fastest guy I have ever ridden with off road when he was on his twenty-two year old BMW R100GS "BumbleBeemer"! He is now going to be even faster on this new hot rod BMW GS!
He put 100,000 miles off road on "BumbleBeemer", I would imagine he will put the same mileage off road on his new steed. He presents a nice Ride Report on the 20 year differences between GS's!
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CHRIS_D
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beemerdons
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Chris, I believe they have changed the settings over at our AZ Beemers website. I will be at SkooterG's house on Sunday night; his girlfriend Jane, my girlfriend Donna and I are having dinner and kicking tires together. I will see if Skooty can move the pictures over to the FJR Forum. Sorry about that!
beemerdons
Certifiable Old Fart
Well, the world didn't end afterall.
I picked up my new F800GS from Victory yesterday afternoon.
Here's the new ride.
Yep, sorry, it's already sold.
3 happy guys.
Fits nicely.
The old and the new.
Had a chance to make some quick dirt forays around the neighborhood and also made a run up 87 to Mt. Ord. Here's some thoughts on 30 years of motorcycle evolution.
- Holy stability Batman ! Airhead BMW's are sometimes called Gummy Kuh because they have a tendancy to wobble. An Airhead needs to be ridden with the glass smooth style of Mike Hailwood or it will protest with a chassis wobble.
This new bike is un-conditionally stable. It goes where you point it. That's it. No muss, no fuss. Quick line change in a corner, no problem. Hands off the bars from walking speed up to freeway speed. Very nice !
- Engine Power. Wide, smooth, plentiful. The bike will do a C-note without even breathing hard. Pulls from 2K on.
- Suspension. On road, controls brake dive will, soaks up big stuff. The front is a little stiff on small bumps, but that may soften up with use. Off road, so far, awesome. Especially in the rear, compared to the R100GS. Taking weight off of the wheels makes a world of difference. Shafts may be handy, but they are heavy and there's just no way to hide that un-sprung weight.
Overall, the most improvement of 30 years shows in the chassis. The front is much more progressive than the Airhead. The change from shaft to chain, makes the back end so much more compliant. The rear wheel is under control and the shock doesn't lose control like the Airhead does.
- Riding position. Similar to the Airhead. The Airhead has better knee panels for knee grip while standing. Pegs are further back on the F800GS, making the standing position easier. Handle bars are perfect, no risers needed for me.
- Windshield. You wouldn't think by looking at it, but that windshield is perfect. Provides a smooth flow of air at all speeds. Nice job, wind tunnel guys.
- Mileage. Airhead - 32 MPG. F800GS - Way more. Way, way more. Range is about the same on both bikes. On 2.5 gallons less gas.
- Seat. Really? After 30 years you can't do better than a splintery pine plank covered with cloth? Hello, Sargent? Yes, Red please.
- Exhaust. OK, yeah it sound good, but that big round can wastes a lot of space. The Airhead one may look funny, but it tucks up to the bike better.
- Tires. The F800GS came with Michelin Anakees. Not much of an off-road tire, seems OK on the street. TCK-80's please.
- Vibration. About the same on the vert twin as the horiz twin. Either way, my carpal tunnel soaked hands need foamy grips. I cut the heated grips off of the Airhead. I'll cut the heated grips off of the F800GS also.
- ABS. Yep, it works. The brakes pulse more than I expected, especially in the rear pedal. Some of the other Beemers are smoother on ABS activation, I assume the unit is lighter weight than the others. The ABS disable button is stupid, it should be a toggle switch. Street up, dirt down. Hey, my company makes CAN bus chips, maybe I can make a new switch.
- Turn signals. Suck. OK, BMW, you've fixed the switches on some of the other new bikes, how about you fix that on the 2011 F800, so I can swap those parts in. The R/L buttons are silly. The self cancelling seems to be based on time only. Even my '86 Honda has cancelling based on time, speed and handlebar centering. The Airhead turn signals are wierd also.
Bottom line - Awesome. Gotta fix the seat and grips, like on the Airhead. Other than that, way perfect.
Farkle Time ! ! ! !
That is a hot looking bike that Brian has. I had a hardon for that bike, then my wallet kept tugging me to the Kawasaki dealership. I'm looking forward to seeing it up close. Thanks Don!
CHRIS_D
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Nice bike! That what I was going to buy before the KTM. This was when the F800GS first came out. I even test rode one, but at the time couldn't justify the cost for a new one and couldn't find any used ones.
By the way, tell Brian not to cut off the heated grips. Just buy the foam handles (use for luggage) and slide it over the original handgrip. This way he can still use the heat and enjoy the soft foam grip. Both my bikes have these handgrip covers on them. However one thing to note, it will make the handgrip thicker.
By the way, tell Brian not to cut off the heated grips. Just buy the foam handles (use for luggage) and slide it over the original handgrip. This way he can still use the heat and enjoy the soft foam grip. Both my bikes have these handgrip covers on them. However one thing to note, it will make the handgrip thicker.
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beemerdons
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BUMP REMINDER: Still two openings left for this dual sport trek expedition of a lifetime for FJR Forum Members through the Copper Canyon!
rushes
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You are messin with my drunk head big time....
Dammit!
Come on you guys, step up....
Somebody....
Dammit...
beemerdons
Certifiable Old Fart
Hola rushes, were you thinking about joining us on this off road adventure? Even if you don't currently own a dual sport, Moto-Discovery rents Suzuki DR 650's already tricked out for serious dirt work!!
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La Poderosa Diabla took me on a 600 mile Adventure ride camping, falling, dropping and gleeful riding through mud, gravel, rock slides, overgrown "roads", tarmac, freeways and several national forests. ride report to come... it includes beers, elk, deer, bruises, electricall issues and more.
It was a blast.
It was a blast.
rushes
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I bet I can keep you fellers in sight on my junky KLR....
If nobody else'll do it...
Sign me up...
Do they do PayPal?
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No Paypal last time I checked the tour site. See post #1 for a link.
As for the KLR, you wouldn't be alone. Us slow piggies can ride our own ride.
Good bunch of guys are going -- sign up is my advice!
beemerdons
Certifiable Old Fart
rushes, here's all the original signup information. Tour starts November 7, 2010 in El Paso, TX. KLR's will work perfectly for this trip, I owned a KLR for many years and I'd not hesitate to take a KLR on this run. They don't take PayPal, I mailed them a check and others used their credit cards. If you do book, mention you're part of the FJR Forum group and you're a friend of Don Stanley. If you need any more information you can call me at 480-440-4666 or e-mail me at [email protected] Skip Mascorro is our Tour Guide and his number is 1-800-233-0564. We do hope you can join us!
Hola, amigos! We are riding with MotoDiscovery next November 2010 from Mexico's Copper Canyon at Creel, Chihuahua to the Sea of Cortez on Gulf of California at Guaymas, MEX. I'm inviting my FJR Forum Friends with dual sport bikes weighing less than 400 lbs. and having a 4 gal. fuel tank to join me on this trip. We are going November 7-18. Price is $2,995 in total!
If you book with MotoDiscovery before 10/01/09 price is reduced $200 to $2,795. You cannot do this ride any cheaper solo!
My BMW F650GS Twin is much too heavy for this gnarly terrain; this ride is much tougher than my trip to Real last spring!
I'm looking at buying a used BMW X Challenge for this tough track, but I'll need to outfit it with at least 4 gal. fuel capacity!
I may also just rent a Suzuki DR 650 from Skip Mascorro, owner of Pancho Villa Moto Tours, already dirt work equipped!!!
If you're interested in riding Mexico offroad con Chuy Medina "El Burrito Ballerina" contact Don S. at [email protected]
11 nights / 12 days. Starts & Ends in El Paso, TX
Photo Gallery | Book Now | Route Map | Other Mexico Road Tours | Print Page
This event is recommended for those who have already participated on a MotoDiscovery Copper Canyon or Road to Reàl Expeditions and wish to return for a more intensive and challenging off pavement adventure. The Sierra Madre Occidental beckons the moto-adventurer to explore its remote canyons, tackle its wide rivers ascend its towering peaks, and navigate through its arid chaparral. Along the way you will encounter those who live off the land; the cave dwelling Tarahumara, the Mayo and the Tepehuan Indians. If you love to ride, don’t mind getting dirty, and love Mexico as we do, then let this be your next motorcycle adventure.
The following highlights are representative of what you will encounter on this advanced Copper Canyon ride.
Highlights of Itinerary (Revised August 18, 2009)
Special Notes:
This event is limited to nine (9) riding guests and is intended for experienced off road riding enthusiasts. Motorcycles are to be street legal and a recommended limitation of 650 c.c. Non- riding guests may join the Expedition in the support vehicle on a space availability basis.
The concept of this event is to get you to the best riding as quickly as we can. To do this the tour gathers in El Paso, Texas where MotoDiscovery will provide transportation of bikes and tour participants to Creel and our base for beginning the Explorer. Less pavement, more dirt. The Copper Canyon is four times larger in size than the Grand Canyon of the USA. In actuality, the Copper Canyon is but one of a series of canyons that seem to collide and intersect for thousands of square miles, a geological confluence of high mesas, steep gorges, arid chaparral in its depths and cool pine forests at its heights. It will all be yours to explore. The pavement will run out quickly and then it is on to Cerocahui from where we descend to Urique, a village founded by Conquistadores in 1690 situated along a river and in a canyon of the same name. It is the deepest canyon of the Sierra Tarahumara complex. Like a number of villages, here Spanish Colonists discovered silver and gold. Urique is not your normal tourist town. The decent into this canyon is dramatic. After tackling the Copper Canyon region there will be two nights on the Sea of Cortez to relax, get a little sunshine, enjoy some sea food and prepare man and machine for the return leg to Creel. Before heading into the high Sierras, there will be a single night in Alamos, a stop that has provided MotoDiscovery riders with tastes of Colonial charm for decades. It will be a welcomed stay, civilization with some exquisite dining and comfortable lodging.
Chinipas is a hidden Sierra Madre town founded in 1626 that enjoyed a mining boom through much of the 18th and 19th century. The population today is not much more than a thousand and getting there will be a challenge. But once there you will certainly know you have found the real Mexico. You have to ford the river first, always a heart thumping and fun experience. Returning to the area of the Copper Canyon rim, the group reunites with the support vehicles that will transport bikes and road tested riders back to the USA. Includes
11 nights of best available hotel/lodge accommodations
Transportation of participants and motorcycles round trip from the border to Copper Canyon region
All breakfasts, dinners and most lunches
Refreshments and water supplied in the support vehicle
Well prepared Copper Canyon Explorer support/luggage vehicle with staff assistant
Satellite phone communications
Bilingual staff team
Critical GPS waypoints
Maps and pre tour preparation materials
MotoDiscovery Apparel gift
Dates
Nov 8 - 19, 2009
Feb 21 - Mar 4, 2010
Nov 7 - 18, 2010
Price $2,995 US per person
Single occupancy $440 US
If you desire a single room or for any reason we are unable to obtain a room mate for you, the single occupancy supplement will apply.
Motorcycle Rentals Available
Suzuki DR 650 specially prepared with larger gas tank, tail rack, skid plate and after market seat. $960.US. Includes liability Mexico insurance.
Deposit $400 US per person deposit.
Cancellation & Refund Policy
22200 Highway 46 West, Spring Branch, Texas 78070 USA. Toll Free USA & Canada 1(800) 233-0564 Phone (830) 438-7744 FAX (830) 438-7745
OFFICE GPS: N 29º 79.774', W 098º 45.284' Web design and development: Stylefish
Adventure Rider Training Mexico Tours & Expeditions Central America South America Europe Turkey Middle East Asia & India Subcontinent USA Customized Private Tours Recon Tours Special Sponsored Rides Our Story Our History Our People Industry Supporters Customer Comments & Profiles
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Available: https://www.motodiscovery.com/tours/mexico/xccx.html
22200 Highway 46 West, Spring Branch, Texas 78070 USA. Toll Free USA & Canada 1(800) 233-0564 Phone (830) 438-7744 FAX (830) 438-7745
OFFICE GPS: N 29º 79.774', W 098º 45.284' Web design and development: Stylefish"
Hola, amigos! We are riding with MotoDiscovery next November 2010 from Mexico's Copper Canyon at Creel, Chihuahua to the Sea of Cortez on Gulf of California at Guaymas, MEX. I'm inviting my FJR Forum Friends with dual sport bikes weighing less than 400 lbs. and having a 4 gal. fuel tank to join me on this trip. We are going November 7-18. Price is $2,995 in total!
If you book with MotoDiscovery before 10/01/09 price is reduced $200 to $2,795. You cannot do this ride any cheaper solo!
My BMW F650GS Twin is much too heavy for this gnarly terrain; this ride is much tougher than my trip to Real last spring!
I'm looking at buying a used BMW X Challenge for this tough track, but I'll need to outfit it with at least 4 gal. fuel capacity!
I may also just rent a Suzuki DR 650 from Skip Mascorro, owner of Pancho Villa Moto Tours, already dirt work equipped!!!
If you're interested in riding Mexico offroad con Chuy Medina "El Burrito Ballerina" contact Don S. at [email protected]
11 nights / 12 days. Starts & Ends in El Paso, TX
Photo Gallery | Book Now | Route Map | Other Mexico Road Tours | Print Page
This event is recommended for those who have already participated on a MotoDiscovery Copper Canyon or Road to Reàl Expeditions and wish to return for a more intensive and challenging off pavement adventure. The Sierra Madre Occidental beckons the moto-adventurer to explore its remote canyons, tackle its wide rivers ascend its towering peaks, and navigate through its arid chaparral. Along the way you will encounter those who live off the land; the cave dwelling Tarahumara, the Mayo and the Tepehuan Indians. If you love to ride, don’t mind getting dirty, and love Mexico as we do, then let this be your next motorcycle adventure.
The following highlights are representative of what you will encounter on this advanced Copper Canyon ride.
Highlights of Itinerary (Revised August 18, 2009)
Special Notes:
This event is limited to nine (9) riding guests and is intended for experienced off road riding enthusiasts. Motorcycles are to be street legal and a recommended limitation of 650 c.c. Non- riding guests may join the Expedition in the support vehicle on a space availability basis.
The concept of this event is to get you to the best riding as quickly as we can. To do this the tour gathers in El Paso, Texas where MotoDiscovery will provide transportation of bikes and tour participants to Creel and our base for beginning the Explorer. Less pavement, more dirt. The Copper Canyon is four times larger in size than the Grand Canyon of the USA. In actuality, the Copper Canyon is but one of a series of canyons that seem to collide and intersect for thousands of square miles, a geological confluence of high mesas, steep gorges, arid chaparral in its depths and cool pine forests at its heights. It will all be yours to explore. The pavement will run out quickly and then it is on to Cerocahui from where we descend to Urique, a village founded by Conquistadores in 1690 situated along a river and in a canyon of the same name. It is the deepest canyon of the Sierra Tarahumara complex. Like a number of villages, here Spanish Colonists discovered silver and gold. Urique is not your normal tourist town. The decent into this canyon is dramatic. After tackling the Copper Canyon region there will be two nights on the Sea of Cortez to relax, get a little sunshine, enjoy some sea food and prepare man and machine for the return leg to Creel. Before heading into the high Sierras, there will be a single night in Alamos, a stop that has provided MotoDiscovery riders with tastes of Colonial charm for decades. It will be a welcomed stay, civilization with some exquisite dining and comfortable lodging.
Chinipas is a hidden Sierra Madre town founded in 1626 that enjoyed a mining boom through much of the 18th and 19th century. The population today is not much more than a thousand and getting there will be a challenge. But once there you will certainly know you have found the real Mexico. You have to ford the river first, always a heart thumping and fun experience. Returning to the area of the Copper Canyon rim, the group reunites with the support vehicles that will transport bikes and road tested riders back to the USA. Includes
11 nights of best available hotel/lodge accommodations
Transportation of participants and motorcycles round trip from the border to Copper Canyon region
All breakfasts, dinners and most lunches
Refreshments and water supplied in the support vehicle
Well prepared Copper Canyon Explorer support/luggage vehicle with staff assistant
Satellite phone communications
Bilingual staff team
Critical GPS waypoints
Maps and pre tour preparation materials
MotoDiscovery Apparel gift
Dates
Nov 8 - 19, 2009
Feb 21 - Mar 4, 2010
Nov 7 - 18, 2010
Price $2,995 US per person
Single occupancy $440 US
If you desire a single room or for any reason we are unable to obtain a room mate for you, the single occupancy supplement will apply.
Motorcycle Rentals Available
Suzuki DR 650 specially prepared with larger gas tank, tail rack, skid plate and after market seat. $960.US. Includes liability Mexico insurance.
Deposit $400 US per person deposit.
Cancellation & Refund Policy
22200 Highway 46 West, Spring Branch, Texas 78070 USA. Toll Free USA & Canada 1(800) 233-0564 Phone (830) 438-7744 FAX (830) 438-7745
OFFICE GPS: N 29º 79.774', W 098º 45.284' Web design and development: Stylefish
Adventure Rider Training Mexico Tours & Expeditions Central America South America Europe Turkey Middle East Asia & India Subcontinent USA Customized Private Tours Recon Tours Special Sponsored Rides Our Story Our History Our People Industry Supporters Customer Comments & Profiles
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Available: https://www.motodiscovery.com/tours/mexico/xccx.html
22200 Highway 46 West, Spring Branch, Texas 78070 USA. Toll Free USA & Canada 1(800) 233-0564 Phone (830) 438-7744 FAX (830) 438-7745
OFFICE GPS: N 29º 79.774', W 098º 45.284' Web design and development: Stylefish"
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CHRIS_D
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I hate it when those damn "beers" and "electrical" animals jump out right in front of you!
Looking forward to the report. Where was it at?
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beemerdons
Certifiable Old Fart
Come On, Slacker! Chris is right, where is the fecking Ride Report at. The other shiftless Mick, Old Michael, would have already churned out his Ride Report by now. God knows your Papa Chuy is not getting any fecking younger here!
I hate it when those damn "beers" and "electrical" animals jump out right in front of you!
Looking forward to the report. Where was it at?
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Unlike Old Michael, I fall down and ache, and I work for a living -- unlike that shiftless Mick. But another teaser -- a bear made me nearly shit in the woods. I went through Syskyou, Winnema, Rogue and other Wilderness and National Forest areas. Along with I-5!Come On, Slacker! Chris is right, where is the fecking Ride Report at. The other shiftless Mick, Old Michael, would have already churned out his Ride Report by now. God knows your Papa Chuy is not getting any fecking younger here!
I hate it when those damn "beers" and "electrical" animals jump out right in front of you!
Looking forward to the report. Where was it at?
Today is my busiest day of the week, so you'll need to pop a cold one and wait for me to edit all the piccies.
But here is a tease:
Camping:
cold above 4700 feet:
End of a trail:
Napping again:
I'll post a ride report separately. Now go play with sumpin while I go to work.
