?????? for current FJR owners

[BobbyBlue]

And if we had a 6th gear we could run assoline 23-69 in the pumpkin and and and.....Iggy...for the love of GOD man..please retire this to nerpt land...i remember sleezyboard threads on this ad nauseum....FJR 2400Turbo w/elastomatic drive....in KR yellow and black pleeeze....why thank you yes...I'll have another mushroom...and again... h34r:

Bobby

 

[J-DADDY]

Sixth gear needed? No.

Better gas mileage? I don't think so. Gen IIs seemingly do not get better mileage with a higher gear ratio.

Smoother? Maybe, but I don't find my '05 at all buzzy.

Having said that, I find myself "trying to up shift" from 5TH on occasion...I think it has more to do with available

torque, having one think he's still in 4TH...

My 2 cents...

JC

 

[otrfjr]

Err, at the risk of quoting This Is Spinal Tap, isn't there a risk of falling into the "But ours go to eleven" trap? Gearing is fine in 5th. If it's about keeping up the the Japanese and Bavarian Joneses, why bother?

Anyone remember the Honda CB900? Why not demand a high and low range to go with the 5 gears we already have? Voila: 10 speeds.

How would 6 gears affect the AE model?

Slipper clutch, yes; 6th gear, no.

 

[GunMD]

No. It doesn't need 6th.

 

[Rondo777]

FJR doesn't need a 6th gear. There's no need with the engine's torque characteristics. Ilike the engine's rpm at highway speeds - you still get excellent fuel economy and power is at your demand, RIGHT NOW.
As far as I am concerned, Yamaha nailed it with the current FJR. Please don't go mess it up with a 6-spd.

I totally disagree. The FJR is geared perfectly for 5 gears. The gearing should remain the same, just add a 6th speed as Overdrive. This will reduce the buzzy handlebars at highway speed. And if will eek out another mile or 2 per gallon....well that's an added plus.

I just want to reduce the amount of rpm's at 75-80 mph which is what I usually cruise the superslabs at. Any other time you would never shift into 6th.

+1 Fjrs 5 gears are perfect, if a sixth gear was an overdrive and brought the rpms down at 80 mph that would be a great improvement

 

[Bounce]

i'm surprised this thread's not been moved to NEPRT.

 

[user 213]

i'm surprised this thread's not been moved to NEPRT.

Well??? You're the moderator. :lol:

 

[DaveFJR]

A close ratio 6 speed is what I would prefer. Besides, sport bikes are 6 speeds and so is the C14.

 

[madmike2]

A close ratio 6 speed is what I would prefer. Besides, sport bikes are 6 speeds and so is the C14.

And....if you're going to ride like that or wish to own a bike like that....it was (and is) an available option.

Sport bikes have a close ratio 6-speed to keep the RPMs within the narrow parameters for torque and horsepower application. That isn't necessary for most riders because of the broad power range of the FJR engine (and also because 75%-80%, or more, of FJR owners don't push those limits on their streetbikes).

It seems to me that Kawasaki already had the 6 speed and simply made the conversion to shaft drive, where the FJR engine came from another direction during the engineer's creative process. Perhaps, with all of the engineering that went in to the VVT they decided they needed the 6-speed to keep the engine RPMs from dropping so far between gears. Since the C-14 and the FJR have almost identical final drive/top gear ratios, any aditional gears in the FJR transmission would be added between first gear and "top" gear (that which is now 5th). That means the rest of us who are happy with the 5 speed would then need to shift an additional time while running up (and down) through the gears. We'd probably STILL look for another top gear like I used to do on my C-10!

 

[WBill]

I don't need no 6th gear. Keep in mind, I have a Gen I, '05.

5th is fine, gives me 50 mpg regularly, and puts the torque right there for passing. Now that I know the engine speed relation to wheel speed, I "almost" never try to fine another gear. I just look at the instruments.

If I were the King of Yamaha, I would spend the money upgrading other, little things. HID headlights would be nice. Maybe variable valve timing would be an upgrade, but only if it meant even better regular gas mileage. "Fly-by-wire" throttle would be attractive if it meant easier throttle control. How about self canceling turn signals?

Yamaha can contact me via this board. WBill

 

[UFO]

Slipper clutch, yes; 6th gear, no.

Slipper clutch needed on the FJR. That's rich. :lol: :lol:

 

[Constant Mesh]

Differences in the FJR and Concours gearing --

Overall Ratio (OR) = Engine RPM / Rear Wheel RPM

6th gear OR

Connie 3.402

5th gear OR

FJR 3.914

Connie 4.092

4th gear OR

FJR 4.539

Connie 4.896

3rd gear OR

FJR 5.681

Connie 6.019

2nd gear OR

FJR 7.472

Connie 7.640

1st gear OR

FJR 10.662

Connie 10.559

In top gear operation the Connie engine RPM is only 86.9% of the FJR's.

FJR 5K RPM = Connie 4.346K RPM

FJR 4K = Connie 3.477K

 

[2006FJR]

There have been more than a few times I was doing 80 plus and I went lookingfor another gear that wasn't there. Do I need one? No. Would I like one? Yes.

 

[Bounce]

There have been more than a few times I was doing 80 plus and I went lookingfor another gear that wasn't there. Do I need one? No. Would I like one? Yes.

get a gen 2 with the gear indicator. much simpler and lighter.

 

[madmike2]

Maybe Yamaha, when doing the redesign for the 5 year update schedule, will consider a 7 speed or 8 speed. That way the new owners can have a close ratio 6 speed when riding like a sport bike and have 2 overdrive options. A normal overdrive (a la' the Kawi C-14) and a "super" overdrive for the long trips across the flat-lands or when going downhill. Something that will halve the RPMs currently being used might fit the requests of the masses.

[SIZE=8pt]Of course, extended periods of low RPM use might cause carbon build up on the heads, valves and piston rings but that could also be repaired under warranty (because of the smog laws) and would give cause for another round of different complaints.[/SIZE]

 

[2006FJR]

Maybe Yamaha, when doing the redesign for the 5 year update schedule, will consider a 7 speed or 8 speed. That way the new owners can have a close ratio 6 speed when riding like a sport bike and have 2 overdrive options. A normal overdrive (a la' the Kawi C-14) and a "super" overdrive for the long trips across the flat-lands or when going downhill. Something that will halve the RPMs currently being used might fit the requests of the masses.[SIZE=8pt]Of course, extended periods of low RPM use might cause carbon build up on the heads, valves and piston rings but that could also be repaired under warranty (because of the smog laws) and would give cause for another round of different complaints.[/SIZE]

That would be great. Kind of like the Corvette getting 28 miles per gallon on the highway out of a 400 HP car.

 

[Dragan]

In top gear operation the Connie engine RPM is only 86.9% of the FJR's.

FJR 5K RPM = Connie 4.346K RPM

FJR 4K = Connie 3.477K

High RPM is more healthier for engine then low RPM. Clean inlets, clean valves, clean exhaust, clean.....etc

 

[JamesK]

Slipper clutch, yes; 6th gear, no.

+1 on the slipper clutch suggestion, it would be very useful when you run the bike hard.